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Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup

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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#21 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:34 pm

nickhx2 wrote:imo you gotta just let cp3 play straight up on curry. this team has been horrendous with team defense/rotations against the warriors. it exposes us because the team has players who seem to give up every box out and backdoor possession humanly possible.

so.....

let CP get screened and let Curry hit open trey balls?
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Post#22 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:12 pm

no, let cp3 use his smarts and perfect footwork like usual to try and keep up. he won't keep up all the time, but it's the lesser of two evils to me.
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Post#23 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:03 pm

and the big man does what?

show on the screen and try to get back?
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Post#24 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:31 pm

anything that keeps it single on curry imo would be better for us than aggressive doubles. like if this were a team full of fast, rangy and SMART defenders who could rotate, sure. double him.

but when you have guys who are too slow or too dumb to rotate properly, especially since it's a strategy we've gone away from the entire year, the majority of looks i'd give curry would be to have dj switch or let cp3 fight through screens. of course, part of that requires dj to actually to switch AND play up on his man, which he has failed spectacularly at all year. so who knows, maybe i'm just talking crazy talk.
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Post#25 » by BlzMwt » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:49 pm

nickhx2 wrote:theoretically if an opponent is exploiting your scheme or your player flying off the handle, yes you make an adjustment. but there's no cavalry to save this team if austin and crawford start blowing the game. doc made sure of that.
nickhx2 wrote:charles barkley is a grade A moron. i mean sure if blake was pre-injury blake and team actually HAD two good bench players then sure maybe he might be right. that's not the case.

nickhx2 wrote:yeah man, sending curry to the foul line 30 times a game is totally gonna work in our favor
nickhx2 wrote:imo you gotta just let cp3 play straight up on curry. this team has been horrendous with team defense/rotations against the warriors. it exposes us because the team has players who seem to give up every box out and backdoor possession humanly possible.
nickhx2 wrote:but when you have guys who are too slow or too dumb to rotate properly, especially since it's a strategy we've gone away from the entire year, the majority of looks i'd give curry would be to have dj switch or let cp3 fight through screens. of course, part of that requires dj to actually to switch AND play up on his man, which he has failed spectacularly at all year. so who knows, maybe i'm just talking crazy talk.


not trying to single you out in a negative way but how ruthless you are to some of the players has me dying :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#26 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:55 pm

what can i say! over the years i've been transformed from always hopeful underdog fan to soul-blackened cynic.

thank you for that, doc rivers!
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#27 » by QRich3 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:19 am

Double teaming has been dead in the NBA for like the past 10 years, it hasn't been about double or single coverage since the zone defense rules changed. You defend a guy with your whole 5 man unit now, loading the strong side, packing the paint, etc. Quake is on the money here, you don't have your big show hard or trap Curry in the P&R, he's making open 3 after open 3. Fighting through screens is a nice sentiment, but it's not a realistic one to defend a guy who shoots so quickly and accurately with very little space.

Also, you lot know I've been one of the hardest guys on DJ's defense here, but it seems to me that people, from the national media to some Clippers fans here, have not been paying attention to him in like a year or two. He's not this knucklehead that doesn't know where to position himself anymore, he's rightfully a consistent elite defender in this league.
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#28 » by wco81 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:47 pm

Thing is, in the last couple of years, when DJ switches on Curry, Curry's been able to cross him over and get a good long shot off fairly easily. Which is kind of surprising because I've seen other big men who did a fairly good job of staying in front of Curry, such as Towns, and they're not as athletic as DJ.

But if DJ comes out really aggressively, Curry can get by him but DJ might be able to recover and catch up from behind to contest since he's a great athlete.

Curry also has the option of getting the ball to the mismatch caused by the switch. So you might have Draymond diving to the goal or going to the low block on Curry's defender.
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#29 » by Quake Griffin » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:48 pm

wco81 wrote:Thing is, in the last couple of years, when DJ switches on Curry, Curry's been able to cross him over and get a good long shot off fairly easily. Which is kind of surprising because I've seen other big men who did a fairly good job of staying in front of Curry, such as Towns, and they're not as athletic as DJ.

But if DJ comes out really aggressively, Curry can get by him but DJ might be able to recover and catch up from behind to contest since he's a great athlete.

Curry also has the option of getting the ball to the mismatch caused by the switch. So you might have Draymond diving to the goal or going to the low block on Curry's defender.

I don't think we want DJ switching onto Curry. That literally cost us the 1st game in GSW when we were up 10 in the 4th quarter.

I want hard doubles.

We want the Draymond diving to the goal/ making decisions, hitting the guy in the corner or Bogut for the lob.
We want you to do that for all game long for all 4 wins. It's an evil we'll live with instead of letting Curry get off. An evil I'd rather try to solve than something like DJ switching on Curry....which would lead to a sweep.
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Post#30 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:25 am

I wish the refs allowed DJ and Griffin to set the same type of moving screens that Green and Bogut are allowed to set for Curry and Thompson. If so, Redick would probably make 6-8 three pointers a game.
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Post#31 » by nickhx2 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:49 am

ya in first quarter green set a moving screen, got called for it then proceeded to bitch the ref's ear off about it.

if only this team could get away with the antics that GS does lol
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#32 » by wco81 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:27 am

Well they're aggressively trapping Lillard so that kind of hints at what they'd do against Curry.
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#33 » by og15 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:25 am

wco81 wrote:Well they're aggressively trapping Lillard so that kind of hints at what they'd do against Curry.

It has worked on Lillard in the past, problem is that against the Warriors Green is the release man and he's great at attacking a 4 v 3 and you have to recover very quickly and make timely rotations. Still, you have to give up something, so maybe trying to get the ball out of Curry's hands as much as possible and pressure and hopefully get some turnovers is the best defensive option.
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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#34 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:44 pm

We need to finish off the Blazers so we can get a few games in without Curry...
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Post#35 » by Don Tommy » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:26 am

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Re: Possible Clippers vs Warriors Playoff Matchup 

Post#36 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:28 am

Guess we can put this one to rest
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