mkwest wrote:Neddy wrote:every time we play Utah, I end up cursing doc for cutting Joe Ingles for Jered Cunningham. oh what could have been... Joe being our Toni Kukoc for us during CP3 era.
Here's a look back at our thoughts when he was waived...
Clippers sign Joe InglesClippers Waive Joe Ingles
Well cited, MK.
I wasn't here on this board then, but even though Ingles couldn't buy a basket, I loved that he was always in the right place at the right time--he clearly knew the game better than most of the roster. But by most accounts he did not have a good preseason.
And I see Brother Neddy noted well that Farmar was injury-prone and we were thin behind CP, who had never played all 82 games to that point, so keeping Dante made sense. Doc also said he planned to bring Ingles back as soon as possible, perhaps within days.
Other points:
--The Clips were at the cap and had guaranteed money on Cunningham and others. This was the Sterling era. If there were $$ considerations, DTS may have entered into that.
--It was Doc's front office that brought the ancient mariner Ingles over here in the first place, to their credit.
--It's my pet theory that Utah picked up Ingles not so much on merit, but to keep their FRP [#5 overall] and fellow Aussie Dante Exum company as he got acclimated to this strange new land of America.
That would be our typical luck, that we lost Ingles for non-basketball reasons.
Ingles admittedly would have come in handy, but we're talking 4.5 ppg and 2.1 rpg his first two years with the Jazz. Was this better than Luc, who we ended up replacing him with @ minimum wage? Even that first year, our problems were in the backcourt. We got Big Baby and Hedo off the junk pile and they easily surpassed Joe's first-year production.
Hey I dig Joe and wish we'd kept him. But now he makes $13M a year for what's so far 12/3/3--and he's signed through age 33, back where he started, getting 20+ mpg on a lottery team. Luc's still playing for $2M with only slightly less production. The Ingles Affair is used as a club to bash Doc with, but the WAR of Joe vs. Luc is key here and I'd argue it's pretty much a push.