Game 32: Clippers (13-18) visit Grizzlies (9-23) on 12/23 @ 8:00 PM ET

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[JGOJustin]

Damn Memphis has been playing w/o Gasol too?

[Popovich]

Refs are all over this one.

[esqtvd]

let's try guarding somebody
63 points in a half? to the Grizz?
lucky to only be down 4

fortunately, no starter has over 16 minutes, so Doc's not driving them into the ground for a change

[JGOJustin]

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[JGOJustin]

Austin Rivers man

But we can't guard for **** today. This was a game we HAD to have man.

[ejftw]

We have to be tanking...right?

[esqtvd]

Austin Rivers man

But we can't guard for **** today. This was a game we HAD to have man.

We shot 48%, they only shot 44%. FTs were even. They got 10 more rebs, and got 10 more shots--they had 15 offensive rebounds to our 6. Have to say it seemed they got more than a few lucky ORebs, but that's also a product of hustle, and Doc acknowledged we just didn't have legs tonight.

Lou kinda screwed the pooch on the last play, though, dribbling around then throwing it away. We could have gone for a quick 2 and then fouled.

[esqtvd]

IRONY OF THE DAY

4/5 of last year's starting lineup [CP, Blake, JJ, Luc] are currently injured


LATE ADD: JJ = not a hit in Philly. Austin was definitely ready to take over at the 2 on every level.

https://thesixersense.com/2017/12/17/philadelphia-76ers-jj-redick-shooting-struggles-worse-than-robert-covington/

The real issue is Redick’s shot. He’s only shooting 34.2 percent from deep over the last 10 games and 38.4 percent on the season — both of which fall well below his career average of 41.3 percent (and well below Covington’s numbers).

Aside from the plays that are centered around getting Embiid the ball, a lot of Brown’s offense is designed to get Redick open looks from deep. The 33-year-old runs off countless screens and is involved in almost every action, all under the assumption that he can hit threes at an advanced rate when afforded good looks.

Teams are never going to sag off Redick, so the spacing he creates on pedigree alone is still invaluable, but he’s starting to become an inefficient scorer with a relatively high volume. That isn’t the greatest trend for somebody who doesn’t yield many positives defensively, which is the biggest difference between his situation and Covington’s.

Redick is undersized and often not athletic enough to defend wings or point guards at a high level. His role in the offense is confined by average handles and a lack of creation as well, meaning his impact is limited if he isn’t hitting shots coming off the actions Brown and company run specifically for him.

[Dynamix]

A loss that really sucks and I was afraid of, but at least they fought until the very end. Shame about that final possession.

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I just hope he's more Milos-ready and less Bev/Gallo-ready.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I was hoping that we would win yesterday, but I knew a let down was possible. Austin and Lou still had big scoring games but there wasn't much else. I know that we had a chance to win, was just hoping we could have pulled this one out since the Grizzlies have a lot of players out.

[JGOJustin]

IRONY OF THE DAY

4/5 of last year's starting lineup [CP, Blake, JJ, Luc] are currently injured


LATE ADD: JJ = not a hit in Philly. Austin was definitely ready to take over at the 2 on every level.

https://thesixersense.com/2017/12/17/philadelphia-76ers-jj-redick-shooting-struggles-worse-than-robert-covington/

The real issue is Redick’s shot. He’s only shooting 34.2 percent from deep over the last 10 games and 38.4 percent on the season — both of which fall well below his career average of 41.3 percent (and well below Covington’s numbers).

Aside from the plays that are centered around getting Embiid the ball, a lot of Brown’s offense is designed to get Redick open looks from deep. The 33-year-old runs off countless screens and is involved in almost every action, all under the assumption that he can hit threes at an advanced rate when afforded good looks.

Teams are never going to sag off Redick, so the spacing he creates on pedigree alone is still invaluable, but he’s starting to become an inefficient scorer with a relatively high volume. That isn’t the greatest trend for somebody who doesn’t yield many positives defensively, which is the biggest difference between his situation and Covington’s.

Redick is undersized and often not athletic enough to defend wings or point guards at a high level. His role in the offense is confined by average handles and a lack of creation as well, meaning his impact is limited if he isn’t hitting shots coming off the actions Brown and company run specifically for him.

You saw this developing even with us.

With each season with us, JJ would get more and more DHO's, and our default sets were either DHO's involving him or floppy and we'd play off that. It's almost as if we got lazy and fell into the habit of JJ Redick initiating our offensive sets. I've told people for years how important he'd become to what we do offensively and it's a HUGE reason why our offense wasn't as good come playoff time, because we spent the entire season(s) building offensive habits based on JJ's movement, and he's flat out not good enough to warrant such a heavy load.

It is still my opinion that JJ inadvertently stunted the growth of Blake Griffin. (Not JUST him, but yeah) The DHO's and the floppy's, a quarter of those could of just been direct post ups for BG, more reps.

He wasn't good enough to warrant that type of responsibility with us and he damn sure isn't good enough to warrant that type of responsibility in philly.

[esqtvd]

IRONY OF THE DAY

4/5 of last year's starting lineup [CP, Blake, JJ, Luc] are currently injured


LATE ADD: JJ = not a hit in Philly. Austin was definitely ready to take over at the 2 on every level.

https://thesixersense.com/2017/12/17/philadelphia-76ers-jj-redick-shooting-struggles-worse-than-robert-covington/

The real issue is Redick’s shot. He’s only shooting 34.2 percent from deep over the last 10 games and 38.4 percent on the season — both of which fall well below his career average of 41.3 percent (and well below Covington’s numbers).

Aside from the plays that are centered around getting Embiid the ball, a lot of Brown’s offense is designed to get Redick open looks from deep. The 33-year-old runs off countless screens and is involved in almost every action, all under the assumption that he can hit threes at an advanced rate when afforded good looks.

Teams are never going to sag off Redick, so the spacing he creates on pedigree alone is still invaluable, but he’s starting to become an inefficient scorer with a relatively high volume. That isn’t the greatest trend for somebody who doesn’t yield many positives defensively, which is the biggest difference between his situation and Covington’s.

Redick is undersized and often not athletic enough to defend wings or point guards at a high level. His role in the offense is confined by average handles and a lack of creation as well, meaning his impact is limited if he isn’t hitting shots coming off the actions Brown and company run specifically for him.

You saw this developing even with us.

With each season with us, JJ would get more and more DHO's, and our default sets were either DHO's involving him or floppy and we'd play off that. It's almost as if we got lazy and fell into the habit of JJ Redick initiating our offensive sets. I've told people for years how important he'd become to what we do offensively and it's a HUGE reason why our offense wasn't as good come playoff time, because we spent the entire season(s) building offensive habits based on JJ's movement, and he's flat out not good enough to warrant such a heavy load.

It is still my opinion that JJ inadvertently stunted the growth of Blake Griffin. (Not JUST him, but yeah) The DHO's and the floppy's, a quarter of those could of just been direct post ups for BG, more reps.

He wasn't good enough to warrant that type of responsibility with us and he damn sure isn't good enough to warrant that type of responsibility in philly.

There was also the 4th-quarter problem: JJ was always out of gas halfway through the 3rd. And Blake's newly-found jumper game is also dead by the 4th quarter [a problem we still have], so that left CP to try to BS his way through with Jamal or whoever, since DJ is a non-factor on offense as well. Every game took the same shape--build up a 20-point lead by playing the starters deep into the 3rd, then try to slob our way home. If the 2nd unit managed not to piss away the lead until there were 6 minutes left, we probably won; if they pissed it away quickly and the starters had to return at the 9:00 mark, it was going to be seat belt time as we tried to limp home on exhausted horses.

[MartinToVaught]

I'm not a huge JJ fan or anything, but you guys need to settle down with the Austin/JJ comparisons. Despite being second on the team in minutes per game, Austin is 7th in PER and 9th in TS% with a negative BPM. A couple good games doesn't erase his overall negative impact and inefficiency. When JJ is having a cold streak like he is now, it's an outlier (in the regular season, at least). When Austin has a good game, it's an outlier.

[esqtvd]

I'm not a huge JJ fan or anything, but you guys need to settle down with the Austin/JJ comparisons. Despite being second on the team in minutes per game, Austin is 7th in PER and 9th in TS% with a negative BPM. A couple good games doesn't erase his overall negative impact and inefficiency. When JJ is having a cold streak like he is now, it's an outlier (in the regular season, at least). When Austin has a good game, it's an outlier.

Austin is playing with G-Leaguers. What he [and Lou] are doing lately is nothing short of amazing. Not only are they producing, but they're obliged to increase their volume and take a lot of shots they'd rather not have to take.

To illustrate, now that Malcolm Brogdon has been demoted to second string after the Bledsoe trade, his TS% has sunk from 60 to 52. Everything has sunk.




It matters very much who you're playing with, and Austin [and Lou] are playing with absolutely zero help. Nobody's saying Austin's an all-star, but he has become quite a credible NBA rotation player. Austin is getting better; JJ is getting worse. You RDSers gotta move on. Austin remains the least of our problems.

[MartinToVaught]

Milos, Lou, DJ, Harrell, Dekker and Reed are not "G-Leaguers." And the supporting cast card works both ways. On a better team whose coach isn't his dad, Austin wouldn't be playing nearly as many minutes nor would he have the unlimited green light to chuck.

[esqtvd]

Milos has missed a lot of games. Lou is fine but also only a combo guard. DJ is a non-factor on offense. The rest are scrubs, and after that there are 4 G-leaguers, 3 of whom have started and the 4th is getting significant minutes.

And unresponsive to the above argument re Brogdon, who is clearly suffering having to play with scrubs instead of Giannis.