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Never said that.
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Brice was known as a late bloomer and a guy with slow motor that needed to be motivated.
wasn't doc known to be a motivator?
either Doc can't motivate, or Doc can't scout. it is either or. take your pick.
firing scouts 3 months after Brice was drafted, only means either he didn't do the due diligence and took their words for it without studying the kid himself, or he needed a scapegoat to put a blame on other than to himself after seeing something that wasn't there in the kid. that too, is either or.
whichever the logic one follows, doc is still behind them all.
wasn't doc known to be a motivator?
either Doc can't motivate, or Doc can't scout. it is either or. take your pick.
firing scouts 3 months after Brice was drafted, only means either he didn't do the due diligence and took their words for it without studying the kid himself, or he needed a scapegoat to put a blame on other than to himself after seeing something that wasn't there in the kid. that too, is either or.
whichever the logic one follows, doc is still behind them all.
ehhhhh f it.
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stipulated that Brice was a bad pick and those responsible were fired
most picks that late in the draft are crap like GSW's Kevon Looney whose option was also declined
most picks that late in the draft are crap like GSW's Kevon Looney whose option was also declined


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For what it's worth, I've heard directly about how much of a headache he's been with his attitude and work ethic.
Others who worked w/him at Impact in vegas said the same thing.
This was an odd / lazy pick to begin with, but it isn't a pick worth killing the team over. Not a needle mover, as most late 20 picks aren't
Others who worked w/him at Impact in vegas said the same thing.
This was an odd / lazy pick to begin with, but it isn't a pick worth killing the team over. Not a needle mover, as most late 20 picks aren't
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JGOJustin wrote:For what it's worth, I've heard directly about how much of a headache he's been with his attitude and work ethic.
Others who worked w/him at Impact in vegas said the same thing.
This was an odd / lazy pick to begin with, but it isn't a pick worth killing the team over. Not a needle mover, as most late 20 picks aren't
yeah, I remember him coming out of college with a similar label, that he is not a self-motivated guy and a late bloomer when handled with care. I am still positive his talent is nowhere near his potential, but his ceiling isn't high enough for any NBA team to baby his development. he will have to spend some years in China or Europe and get a big piece of humble pie before he can be a rotational player in this league.
ehhhhh f it.
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This is exactly why I wanted Travis Schlenk to head up our draft as GM before he took the job in Atlanta. The former assistant GM for the Warriors was spot on in his scouting reports on Draymond Green and valued character and chemistry fit with current NBA team players as well as talent in his evaluation of draft prospects.
Now I would think many organizations would have such considerations, but Schlenk seemed to put the proper emphasis on it in finding the right balance judging by what Golden State has done during his time there. Doc continued to cluelessly flail on his picks with Frank complicit in supporting business as usual when Doc was in charge.
As I mentioned before, I had Brice Johnson as an early favorite among candidates for consideration for our first-round pick in the months leading up to the draft, but when the time came, I was conflicted and didn't like the pick given how the draft played out to that point.
og15 mentioned before how Doc was overly confident in his abilities to motivate players, but his act and aura has faded over the years. This all just further points to what a lot of us have been saying in that Doc should have been replaced as front office leader years ago. His coaching acumen remains debatable even with our relative success this season.
We were all aware of his motivational issues based on his scouting reports, but there was hope that Doc somehow identified something about him feeding off tough love, but his body language and attitude on display throughout his time with the Clippers whether it is during his limited playing time in the regular season or summer league indicated that he was looking like a lost cause, which explains why the organization declined his 3rd-year option in matter-of-fact fashion.
Just another bust added to Doc's list of failed draft picks. Reggie Bullock, C.J. Wilcox, David Michineau, Diamond Stone, and now Brice Johnson. Michineau and Stone are included because we traded down to select those two over selecting Patrick McCaw or Malcolm Brogdon. The only reason Branden Dawson doesn't make the list is because he was such a low pick really late in the second round, but even that pointed to his failure to get back into the draft despite his attempts after years of disregarding draft picks like bubble gum wrapper.
Now I would think many organizations would have such considerations, but Schlenk seemed to put the proper emphasis on it in finding the right balance judging by what Golden State has done during his time there. Doc continued to cluelessly flail on his picks with Frank complicit in supporting business as usual when Doc was in charge.
As I mentioned before, I had Brice Johnson as an early favorite among candidates for consideration for our first-round pick in the months leading up to the draft, but when the time came, I was conflicted and didn't like the pick given how the draft played out to that point.
og15 mentioned before how Doc was overly confident in his abilities to motivate players, but his act and aura has faded over the years. This all just further points to what a lot of us have been saying in that Doc should have been replaced as front office leader years ago. His coaching acumen remains debatable even with our relative success this season.
We were all aware of his motivational issues based on his scouting reports, but there was hope that Doc somehow identified something about him feeding off tough love, but his body language and attitude on display throughout his time with the Clippers whether it is during his limited playing time in the regular season or summer league indicated that he was looking like a lost cause, which explains why the organization declined his 3rd-year option in matter-of-fact fashion.
Just another bust added to Doc's list of failed draft picks. Reggie Bullock, C.J. Wilcox, David Michineau, Diamond Stone, and now Brice Johnson. Michineau and Stone are included because we traded down to select those two over selecting Patrick McCaw or Malcolm Brogdon. The only reason Branden Dawson doesn't make the list is because he was such a low pick really late in the second round, but even that pointed to his failure to get back into the draft despite his attempts after years of disregarding draft picks like bubble gum wrapper.
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I think thus far Thornwell and Evans have had greater impact than any of those former draft picks of ours. I haven't seen them enough to judge their potential, but at least they actually get minutes.
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