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Lowering the Bar of Qualitative Discussion Should Not Be the Aim 

Post#81 » by Ranma » Wed Jan 2, 2019 8:35 pm

Galloisdaman wrote:Not everything in life is all or nothing. My comments about the games they had fatigue and illness this season have nothing to do with how many minutes Doc played some players in previous seasons. I'm not defending Doc for anything in previous seasons. Just agreeing with a previous post regarding a few specific games when the team had no legs or were short handed this season. On any given night a first place club can lose to a last place club largely because of fatigue.
As far as staying neutral I have my own bias. We all have bias but just like any judge in any court room to be fair we have to try to look past our own bias when evaluating a situation. I have mentioned a few things I would like to see Doc do differently many times. I don't think that makes me a Doc hater anymore than a Doc apologist. I'm just a guy leaning back in my computer chair giving my opinion. That is what a sports message-board is about. Let me put it to you this way. Wouldn't this board be boring for you if everyone just agreed with everything you said? The great thing about the board is you have multiple opinions. If everyone agreed with me why would I even read the board? I could just talk to myself. :)


You're missing the point. Of course, any team can lose on any given night due to fatigue. That's just obvious and a no-brainer, but when a coach makes a habit of having his players play too much and relying on his star players which lead to regularly losing due to fatigue, like say, for a stretch that extended over 2 weeks, then there's something wrong with his rotation and roster management, especially with the depth available to him. We've lost important postseason games and series under Doc's watch because his star players ran out of gas. If we keep doing the same things without making adjustments then it's a colossal waste of time and resources.

I've already stated in the past that I'm not interested in a hive-mind or homogeneous board. Variety is the spice of life, so I definitely welcome different opinions as long as they are well thought out and backed up my good support. Accepting an opinion merely because it's different sets a low bar and, like I've pointed out, has led to the spread of an idiocracy where "flat Earth" has grown among the population as a belief and anti-vaccination is now a movement that has actually brought back diseases that were once wiped out. Bad takes, especially those repeated without respectable support, only lead to lowering the quality of sports discussion, not enhancing it.
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#82 » by Max Headrom » Wed Jan 2, 2019 11:34 pm

Ranma "I welcome different opinions"

Also Ranma *puts people on ignore that doesn't agree with him*

Lol
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#83 » by esqtvd » Thu Jan 3, 2019 3:35 am

Max Headrom wrote:Ranma "I welcome different opinions"

Also Ranma *puts people on ignore that doesn't agree with him*

Lol



haven't seen you around here lately, dude

wonder why :rolleyes:
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#84 » by Max Headrom » Thu Jan 3, 2019 3:50 am

esqtvd wrote:
Max Headrom wrote:Ranma "I welcome different opinions"

Also Ranma *puts people on ignore that doesn't agree with him*

Lol



haven't seen you around here lately, dude

wonder why :rolleyes:


I don't like talking to brick walls or see dead horses get beat in my spare time...
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#85 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Jan 3, 2019 1:12 pm

Max Headrom wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Max Headrom wrote:Ranma "I welcome different opinions"

Also Ranma *puts people on ignore that doesn't agree with him*

Lol



haven't seen you around here lately, dude

wonder why :rolleyes:


I don't like talking to brick walls or see dead horses get beat in my spare time...

Agree.

Game threads have turned into the Defend-Avery (Doc)-Even-If-Noone-Is-Berating-Him Show.
Fairly annoying.

Wouldn't place that on Ranma's shoulders at all. He posts fairly useful information.
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#86 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Jan 3, 2019 1:24 pm

Drama drama drama. Is this becoming The Real Housewives of Clipper Fans Board? :D
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#87 » by Ranma » Thu Jan 3, 2019 6:55 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Agree.

Game threads have turned into the Defend-Avery (Doc)-Even-If-Noone-Is-Berating-Him Show.
Fairly annoying.

Wouldn't place that on Ranma's shoulders at all. He posts fairly useful information.


Thanks, Quake. The thing is a lot of the anti-Bradley stuff I post are tweets by people who write or have written about the Clippers for Clips Nation and Clipperholics including Justin Russo who even tends to defend Doc on most occasions. All of them are doing so because they want what's best for the Clippers just like most of us when we criticize Doc for his mishandling of things whatever they be. Meanwhile the few remaining Doc apologists reflexively defend Doc just because of the mere fact that there is criticism of him seemingly placing their priority on defending his good name over what's best for the Clippers for whatever reason.

Galloisdaman wrote:Drama drama drama. Is this becoming The Real Housewives of Clipper Fans Board? :D


There's a reason why I employ the ignore function and post my ignore list in my signature and it's to avoid the trivial bickering and utter nonsense from the "housewives" of this board as you put it. The only person I even have any slight regret about putting on the list is QRich3 since I remember that he actually displayed a fairly high level of intellegence in our previous discussions. However, he objected to me calling him out for his bad takes, particularly with respect to the draft, even as I posted lengthy posts and support to prove my case.

I actually put in time, effort, and thought to bring in material and information to this forum with the aim to further discussion, so I'm not going to personally tolerate those who don't show the same courtesy or even the inclination to try. Heck, QRich3 and MaxHeadrom even requested and called, respectively, to be on my ignore list, so I was more than happy to oblige.

I welcome those who find my contributions to be of little or no value to place me on ignore and note so in their signatures just as I encourage everyone to selectively employ the ignore function. I found it frustrating to have to sift through nonsense in order to get to relevant and worthwhile dialog, which is why I previously pointed out to you that having different takes doesn't necessarily or inherently improve board discussion. Variety can be the spice of life as long as the ingredients are of high quality.
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#88 » by esqtvd » Thu Jan 3, 2019 8:25 pm

Ranma wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Agree.

Game threads have turned into the Defend-Avery (Doc)-Even-If-Noone-Is-Berating-Him Show.
Fairly annoying.

Wouldn't place that on Ranma's shoulders at all. He posts fairly useful information.


Thanks, Quake. The thing is a lot of the anti-Bradley stuff I post are tweets by people who write or have written about the Clippers for Clips Nation and Clipperholics including Justin Russo who even tends to defend Doc on most occasions.




That's not this thread, is it, LOL. Mr. Blue Ink dug up this dead thread to drone on with the same one-note bloviating.

And trawling the internet for people who agree with the Doc hate is the same thing as churning it up yourself.

Stick with retweeting logo and uniform stuff. Avery has been playing well lately and I won't be bullied into not noting it. I'm going to enjoy being a Clipper fan, thank you very much. A lot of people who left the board did so because of the negativity, not the positivity.


Doing drivebys on people and posters without actually joining the discussion is a punk move.

Max Headrom wrote:Ranma "I welcome different opinions"

Also Ranma *puts people on ignore that doesn't agree with him*

Lol
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#89 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:27 pm

Nah.

Your pro-Doc Kamikaze Willing to Derail Any Thread For It is what drove people away.

Believe me. In 2015 and 2016, we did just fine with MTV and Ranma hating Doc Rivers.
No reason to believe in 2017, all of a sudden it was them.

Edit: And you are attempting to be a bully, just like you do anyone else who thinks differently from you. He has you on ignore and doesn't bother you...like ever. You continue to quote him and talk ****. Now you tell him to focus on logo threads.

Unbelievable.

Check yourself.
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#90 » by Galloisdaman » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:51 pm

You guys are all good posters. You are almost as great a poster as I am. Stop fighting. It makes the children Clipper fans nervous. Different opinions make the world go round. Its okay to disagree with Doc. Its also okay to agree with Doc. Its all good as long as they make the playoffs for me. :)
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#91 » by Clemenza » Thu Jan 3, 2019 11:58 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:
Max Headrom wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

haven't seen you around here lately, dude

wonder why :rolleyes:


I don't like talking to brick walls or see dead horses get beat in my spare time...

Agree.

Game threads have turned into the Defend-Avery (Doc)-Even-If-Noone-Is-Berating-Him Show.
Fairly annoying.


Wouldn't place that on Ranma's shoulders at all. He posts fairly useful information.


Yeah I agree. Its becoming a side show and its annoying as f*ck
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Re: Doc will be back next season 

Post#92 » by esqtvd » Fri Jan 4, 2019 12:25 am

Clemenza wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:
Max Headrom wrote:
I don't like talking to brick walls or see dead horses get beat in my spare time...

Agree.

Game threads have turned into the Defend-Avery (Doc)-Even-If-Noone-Is-Berating-Him Show.
Fairly annoying.


Wouldn't place that on Ranma's shoulders at all. He posts fairly useful information.


Yeah I agree. Its becoming a side show and its annoying as f*ck




Doing a driveby on "the apologists" is punk.

If you're going to ignore, fine, then ignore. Otherwise, man up.
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