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Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#101 » by esqtvd » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:35 am

NippySudz wrote:
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NippySudz wrote:I disagree. Your muscles is not at full game strength after being rested for so much time. You can't just magically be ready to play 30mins after missing two weeks.

Your body has to build back up to game load. Practice isn't going to simulate game load. Just as his breathing needs conditioning, so does his hamstring

Either it was misreported as a hamstring strain the second time and the clippers didn't want to risk it or there was an actual minor tweaks that didn't take that long to heal.

Either way he shouldn't have been playing when the team is up 30. If he got injured again, can you imagine? This isn't a Rodney mcgruder scenario where rodney tweaked it once and after that he was fine. PG has had hamstring complications on three different occasions.

Dumb decision. That's a thibodeau type of move.

That should be an emphatic hell no. You're done for the night.




I questioned it too but I'm sure Doc asked PG if he wanted to go back in. And I watched closely--PG just coasted up and down the court a few times without really doing anything strenuous and played about a minute and 10 seconds. It was more a conditioning move than actual play.

I'm gonna guess he was capped at 24 minutes, what he averaged when he came back from the broken leg a few years back. PG had only played 20 minutes and finished with 21, so one more easy stint while up by 29 was just for the exercise.
It's still not smart. Hammy's injuries should be treated with caution. Be glad that injury didn't re-aggravate and live to play another day. He didn't do much to aggravate it in Boston. He took a jumper than got shut down

Mcgruder hurt his going for a dunk in Memphis if the wrong foot. PG is attempting to speed up the process and not taking it day by day. Which is probably what led to him re-aggravating the Injury in the first place. Within a couple games he was off his min restriction and went back to playing b2b. Again, not smart. The medical staff needs to be adamant about that.





PG pulled himself out for 2 weeks because of a tiny twinge, not a pull. Better safe than sorry. He practiced Friday but still skipped Saturday's game.

In theory, of course I agree with you. In reality, Kawhi's patience just got short. Sense of urgency. School's out. This is what everybody's been kvetching for. Can't have it both ways.

And PG really did coast. He had already played in the 4th quarter, and was just running the floor a little more before he tightened up and shut it down.
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#102 » by NippySudz » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:38 am

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I questioned it too but I'm sure Doc asked PG if he wanted to go back in. And I watched closely--PG just coasted up and down the court a few times without really doing anything strenuous and played about a minute and 10 seconds. It was more a conditioning move than actual play.

I'm gonna guess he was capped at 24 minutes, what he averaged when he came back from the broken leg a few years back. PG had only played 20 minutes and finished with 21, so one more easy stint while up by 29 was just for the exercise.
It's still not smart. Hammy's injuries should be treated with caution. Be glad that injury didn't re-aggravate and live to play another day. He didn't do much to aggravate it in Boston. He took a jumper than got shut down

Mcgruder hurt his going for a dunk in Memphis if the wrong foot. PG is attempting to speed up the process and not taking it day by day. Which is probably what led to him re-aggravating the Injury in the first place. Within a couple games he was off his min restriction and went back to playing b2b. Again, not smart. The medical staff needs to be adamant about that.





PG pulled himself out for 2 weeks because of a tiny twinge, not a pull. Better safe than sorry. He practiced Friday but still skipped Saturday's game.

In theory, of course I agree with you. In reality, Kawhi's patience just got short. Sense of urgency. School's out. This is what everybody's been kvetching for. Can't have it both ways.

And PG really did coast. He had already played in the 4th quarter, and was just running the floor a little more before he tightened up and shut it down.
If you recall, PG had a twinge during a game in the season, got shut down after the first half. Played against ny won in the next game then pulled it in practice. Again, it's better to be safe than sorry. Get the hammy as much rest as it needs. Don't force the issue with conditioning. It'll come in due time.

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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#103 » by esqtvd » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:43 am

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NippySudz wrote:It's still not smart. Hammy's injuries should be treated with caution. Be glad that injury didn't re-aggravate and live to play another day. He didn't do much to aggravate it in Boston. He took a jumper than got shut down

Mcgruder hurt his going for a dunk in Memphis if the wrong foot. PG is attempting to speed up the process and not taking it day by day. Which is probably what led to him re-aggravating the Injury in the first place. Within a couple games he was off his min restriction and went back to playing b2b. Again, not smart. The medical staff needs to be adamant about that.





PG pulled himself out for 2 weeks because of a tiny twinge, not a pull. Better safe than sorry. He practiced Friday but still skipped Saturday's game.

In theory, of course I agree with you. In reality, Kawhi's patience just got short. Sense of urgency. School's out. This is what everybody's been kvetching for. Can't have it both ways.

And PG really did coast. He had already played in the 4th quarter, and was just running the floor a little more before he tightened up and shut it down.
If you recall, PG had a twinge during a game in the season, got shut down after the first half. Played against ny won in the next game then pulled it in practice. Again, it's better to be safe than sorry. Get the hammy as much rest as it needs. Don't force the issue with conditioning. It'll come in due time.




After the Phoenix game on Friday, we get Denver, the Sixers, the Thunder [won 8 of their last 10], then the Rockets and Lakers. No more lollygagging.

This is what the malcontents have been screaming for. Well, it's here. PG gotta get in gear NOW or we could be in for some serious seeding hurt.
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#104 » by NippySudz » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:50 am

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NippySudz wrote:
esqtvd wrote:


PG pulled himself out for 2 weeks because of a tiny twinge, not a pull. Better safe than sorry. He practiced Friday but still skipped Saturday's game.

In theory, of course I agree with you. In reality, Kawhi's patience just got short. Sense of urgency. School's out. This is what everybody's been kvetching for. Can't have it both ways.

And PG really did coast. He had already played in the 4th quarter, and was just running the floor a little more before he tightened up and shut it down.
If you recall, PG had a twinge during a game in the season, got shut down after the first half. Played against ny won in the next game then pulled it in practice. Again, it's better to be safe than sorry. Get the hammy as much rest as it needs. Don't force the issue with conditioning. It'll come in due time.




After the Phoenix game on Friday, we get Denver, the Sixers, the Thunder [won 8 of their last 10], then the Rockets and Lakers. No more lollygagging.

This is what the malcontents have been screaming for. Well, it's here. PG gotta get in gear NOW or we could be in for some serious seeding hurt.
We've been wanting continuity for sometime but not at the expense of health. Kawhi isn't forcing people to play hurt. I don't get what you're saying about kawhi saying he's getting impatient. Maybe you can elaborate on that for me?

But it wouldn't be good in the locker room to say hey play hurt I'ma load manage. And I don't think that's what happening. I don't think PG is hurt. I think PG is "healed" but his desire to speed up his conditioning can cause him to overload or overwork that muscle leading to another strain IMO

I'm not saying PG should sit. Feel like my words are being twisted. I'm just saying he should not force the issue and be in a game where the team is up 30 and given his injury history this season alone. I don't care if it was for five seconds, five mins or five hrs. Not good and we're fortunate nothing happened.

Don't force it. Let it come. Each time the guy has tweaked it was probably due to him trying to rush. Each time he's come back from injury including the shoulder rehab at the beginning of the season, he's asked for more burn which imo lead to his hammy getting injured. I can't prove that but he should have been worked in with a revised plan that's more detailed than a couple games min restriction. Literally 2 games and their off the minute restriction

Same goes for patbev's injury and he's it's being monitored

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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#105 » by NippySudz » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:56 am

I think it's pretty apparent we need a better medical staff. Seems like clippers are always dealing with injuries when they have good teams.

I still remember Blake's multiple misdiagnosis. His knee, quad and toe iirc

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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#106 » by NippySudz » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:37 am

looks like the game is about to be blown wide open
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Re: Game 57: Los Angeles Clippers (37-19) vs. Memphis Grizzlies (28-28) - 10:30 PM ET 

Post#107 » by NippySudz » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:45 am

Kawhi has 20 10 and 5

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