GAME 21: Clippers (15-5) @ Knicks (9-11) 10AM PST Sunday NOTE TIME

[esqtvd]

I'm so happy that this coaching staff is competent and know how to make adjustments. and Kawhi is just heating up! MVP season baby!

it's such a nice thing watching all the different lineups throughout the season.

you know, instead of for sure watching doc force a kennard/lou/jackson bench unit and be completely oblivious to how bad it would be

Put Batum and Ibaka on last year's team--with or without Harrell--and it's a whole different story. No way Harrell gets as many minutes or is the closer. And JaMychal Green gets next to no minutes because Batum starts and Senior goes to the second unit and J-Myke is OUT and gets Patterson minutes.


Before Bev went down, Ty benched Reggie and is still trying to get Kennard some minutes somewhere despite his negative plus/minus on the BEST plus/minus team in the NBA.

Why Lou and Reggie are the problem is not supported by the data.

[UPDATE: Playing with the first unit today and contributing next to nothing, Kennard freeloaded his season total up to plus+0.1--on a team that averages plus+7.8 per game. Still ass.]

None of this experimentation is bad. People change. People grow.


Some older players like Lou adjust and downscale their games and are still useful after all. 2 weeks ago this board was ready to bury Reggie but now he's off the shi*itpile and is one of our assets?

So it goes.

BTW, Mann is getting minutes but he's still a scrub and may still improve, but he's older than Zubac, who is already an established NBA player. But that's a different discussion.

[esqtvd]

George needs to stop fishing for that 3 point foul. You’re better than that.

Keep feeding Leonard in the post/elbow. He’s making things happen.

When Kawhi's in the paint good things happen. "Ball movement" around the horn is nice, but REAL ball movement is in and then kick it back out. That's real spacing--the whole frontcourt, not just the perimeter.

Not to mention Kawhi got 11 FTAs and hit them all. Easy money.

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[clipperlover]

What was Thibs thinking? He has one of the best, self-proclaimed, defenders in the NBA on his team and he doesn't use him to shut down Kawhi?

[NippySudz]

I'm so happy that this coaching staff is competent and know how to make adjustments. and Kawhi is just heating up! MVP season baby!

it's such a nice thing watching all the different lineups throughout the season.

you know, instead of for sure watching doc force a kennard/lou/jackson bench unit and be completely oblivious to how bad it would be

I'm so glad lou's mins are down and he's now truly a bench player instead of a featured bench player. Even though he does it still, although a lot less, it drove me crazy when there's 4-5 mins in the game left and Kawhi is not getting the ball. I HATE THAT. Put the ball in your best players' hands and let them make a play. Drove me nuts.

I kinda wish Kawhi was like Kobe in moments where they just f-ing with the ball.

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Just demand that ish, sometimes. I'm fine with losing a game if at the hands of our best players. The odds are better with them having the ball in their hands. Its not about the winning in the short-term, its about the process. Can't be having Lou will dominate the ball in the playoffs.

Same with Trezz last year.

[nickhx2]

I'm so happy that this coaching staff is competent and know how to make adjustments. and Kawhi is just heating up! MVP season baby!

it's such a nice thing watching all the different lineups throughout the season.

you know, instead of for sure watching doc force a kennard/lou/jackson bench unit and be completely oblivious to how bad it would be

I'm so glad lou's mins are down and he's now truly a bench player instead of a featured bench player. Even though he does it still, although a lot less, it drove me crazy when there's 4-5 mins in the game left and Kawhi is not getting the ball. I HATE THAT. Put the ball in your best players' hands and let them make a play. Drove me nuts.

I kinda wish Kawhi was like Kobe in moments where they just f-ing with the ball.

Read on Twitter

Just demand that ish, sometimes. I'm fine with losing a game if at the hands of our best players. The odds are better with them having the ball in their hands. Its not about the winning in the their short-term, its about the process. Can't be having Lou will dominate the ball in the playoffs.

Same with Trezz last year.

i mean that was for sure a doc thing.

for years jamal crawford would dominate possessions in crunch time moments while cp3 and blake just stood there watching. and now the best players are the ones who touch the ball, which should always be the case.

[esqtvd]

it's such a nice thing watching all the different lineups throughout the season.

you know, instead of for sure watching doc force a kennard/lou/jackson bench unit and be completely oblivious to how bad it would be

I'm so glad lou's mins are down and he's now truly a bench player instead of a featured bench player. Even though he does it still, although a lot less, it drove me crazy when there's 4-5 mins in the game left and Kawhi is not getting the ball. I HATE THAT. Put the ball in your best players' hands and let them make a play. Drove me nuts.

I kinda wish Kawhi was like Kobe in moments where they just f-ing with the ball.

Read on Twitter

Just demand that ish, sometimes. I'm fine with losing a game if at the hands of our best players. The odds are better with them having the ball in their hands. Its not about the winning in the their short-term, its about the process. Can't be having Lou will dominate the ball in the playoffs.

Same with Trezz last year.

i mean that was for sure a doc thing.

for years jamal crawford would dominate possessions in crunch time moments while cp3 and blake just stood there watching. and now the best players are the ones who touch the ball, which should always be the case.

Jamal was used out of desperation, and only on and off. The problem was that CP3 could not Kobe-up and take over because he's just too small. Even the most famous shot in Clipper history was hairy as hell, and probably goes in only 2 times out of 10.

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Blake had no game except bullying his way to the basket. You could take that away by double-teaming him because the Clippers had no other offensive threats--Redick's spot-ups were great but when you need a point or two, his 44% from 3 is still a crapshoot, and that's even if he can GET his shot, because he can't create his own.

And of course we never had a SF you wanted to get the last shot, and DJ was probably not even in the game because of his 2-foot shooting range and abominable FT shooting. Thus Jamal. There weren't really many other options. Matt Barnes?

Last year was not too different--we did have Kawhi and PG--and PLEASE let's not rehash their performances in Game 7 AGAIN--but aside from that, there was nobody you wanted to take the last shot except by default, Lou. Like DJ, you couldn't pound it into Zubac, and like JJ, Beverley is not a threat to drive and can't get his own shot either.

[FTR, Trezz was 5th in the NBA on PPP on post-ups behind only Embiid, Jokic, Kawhi, and Drummond at 0.98, and 8th in getting you points behind those 4 plus Lebron, Aldridge and Zion.]

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/?SeasonYear=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=SCORE_POSS_PCT&dir=1&CF=POSS*GE*2.5


But this year, we can feel a lot better about giving that shot to Batum or especially Ibaka, who's been there. We just don't need that Jamal/Lou thing anymore, although I feel ok about Lou as the 4th or 5th option because he can get to the line. And who knows--Senior or even Kennard might come around.

[NippySudz]

I'm so glad lou's mins are down and he's now truly a bench player instead of a featured bench player. Even though he does it still, although a lot less, it drove me crazy when there's 4-5 mins in the game left and Kawhi is not getting the ball. I HATE THAT. Put the ball in your best players' hands and let them make a play. Drove me nuts.

I kinda wish Kawhi was like Kobe in moments where they just f-ing with the ball.

Read on Twitter

Just demand that ish, sometimes. I'm fine with losing a game if at the hands of our best players. The odds are better with them having the ball in their hands. Its not about the winning in the their short-term, its about the process. Can't be having Lou will dominate the ball in the playoffs.

Same with Trezz last year.

i mean that was for sure a doc thing.

for years jamal crawford would dominate possessions in crunch time moments while cp3 and blake just stood there watching. and now the best players are the ones who touch the ball, which should always be the case.

Jamal was used out of desperation, and only on and off. The problem was that CP3 could not Kobe-up and take over because he's just too small. Even the most famous shot in Clipper history was hairy as hell, and probably goes in only 2 times out of 10.

Watch on YouTube

Blake had no game except bullying his way to the basket. You could take that away by double-teaming him because the Clippers had no other offensive threats--Redick's spot-ups were great but when you need a point or two, his 44% from 3 is still a crapshoot, and that's even if he can GET his shot, because he can't create his own.

And of course we never had a SF you wanted to get the last shot, and DJ was probably not even in the game because of his 2-foot shooting range and abominable FT shooting. Thus Jamal. There weren't really many other options. Matt Barnes?

Last year was not too different--we did have Kawhi and PG--and PLEASE let's not rehash their performances in Game 7 AGAIN--but aside from that, there was nobody you wanted to take the last shot except by default, Lou. Like DJ, you couldn't pound it into Zubac, and like JJ, Beverley is not a threat to drive and can't get his own shot either.

[FTR, Trezz was 5th in the NBA on PPP on post-ups behind only Embiid, Jokic, Kawhi, and Drummond at 0.98, and 8th in getting you points behind those 4 plus Lebron, Aldridge and Zion.]

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/?SeasonYear=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=SCORE_POSS_PCT&dir=1&CF=POSS*GE*2.5


But this year, we can feel a lot better about giving that shot to Batum or especially Ibaka, who's been there. We just don't need that Jamal/Lou thing anymore, although I feel ok about Lou as the 4th or 5th option because he can get to the line. And who knows--Senior or even Kennard might come around.

Don't strawman. My comments have nothing to do with game 7.

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[esqtvd]

i mean that was for sure a doc thing.

for years jamal crawford would dominate possessions in crunch time moments while cp3 and blake just stood there watching. and now the best players are the ones who touch the ball, which should always be the case.

Jamal was used out of desperation, and only on and off. The problem was that CP3 could not Kobe-up and take over because he's just too small. Even the most famous shot in Clipper history was hairy as hell, and probably goes in only 2 times out of 10.

Watch on YouTube

Blake had no game except bullying his way to the basket. You could take that away by double-teaming him because the Clippers had no other offensive threats--Redick's spot-ups were great but when you need a point or two, his 44% from 3 is still a crapshoot, and that's even if he can GET his shot, because he can't create his own.

And of course we never had a SF you wanted to get the last shot, and DJ was probably not even in the game because of his 2-foot shooting range and abominable FT shooting. Thus Jamal. There weren't really many other options. Matt Barnes?

Last year was not too different--we did have Kawhi and PG--and PLEASE let's not rehash their performances in Game 7 AGAIN--but aside from that, there was nobody you wanted to take the last shot except by default, Lou. Like DJ, you couldn't pound it into Zubac, and like JJ, Beverley is not a threat to drive and can't get his own shot either.

[FTR, Trezz was 5th in the NBA on PPP on post-ups behind only Embiid, Jokic, Kawhi, and Drummond at 0.98, and 8th in getting you points behind those 4 plus Lebron, Aldridge and Zion.]

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/playtype-post-up/?SeasonYear=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=SCORE_POSS_PCT&dir=1&CF=POSS*GE*2.5


But this year, we can feel a lot better about giving that shot to Batum or especially Ibaka, who's been there. We just don't need that Jamal/Lou thing anymore, although I feel ok about Lou as the 4th or 5th option because he can get to the line. And who knows--Senior or even Kennard might come around.

Don't strawman. My comments have nothing to do with game 7.

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Put it back in your pants, son. I purposely AVOIDED rehashing Game 7 and pointed to the structural problems that contributed to it. The point is that nobody else stepped up because there WAS nobody in place to step up. I prefer to make this year part of every discussion--Batum and Ibaka have pushed Senior and Zubac to the back of the rotation and the domino effect is already very encouraging.

As for Jamal--I WAS THERE and hope to explain why he was out there in crunch time. It was by default, not by choice.