GAME 40: Clippers (25-14) @ Pelicans (16-22)—NOTE TIME: Sunday 6PM PDT on ESPN

[esqtvd]

As previously noted, we miss Beverley's maniacal pressure on the ball, but we cannot put defending the paint on our point guards.

Dribble penetration that comes that easily absolutely can be put on the guards. The opposing teams are not running some amazing sets and constantly getting cutters on the move. This team is allowing guys to constantly take them off the dribble with little to no effort to get back into the play and compete to contest.

Lue said it after the game they don’t play one on one defense. You can see the players just getting beat over and over and someone has to help

They played one on one defense against Curry last game. PG-Morris-Bev all did their part and it was awasome. They just didn't play against one of the freakish, young, intimidating and physical frontcourt of the nba.(Adams-Hayes-Zion-İngram) When you have a lot of Veterans in your roster this happens, they tend to pick their fights. We just need some youth to balance our roster.

True, Mann did well and that's why he continues to get minutes even though his plus/minus is in the red overall. But when you pressure the ball almost everybody in the NBA eventually "gets beat" off the dribble. Protecting the paint is done by others. And you see how weakside help by a PG is not really a factor. Reggie got to the spot but got creamed.

[og15]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

[og15]

Dribble penetration that comes that easily absolutely can be put on the guards. The opposing teams are not running some amazing sets and constantly getting cutters on the move. This team is allowing guys to constantly take them off the dribble with little to no effort to get back into the play and compete to contest.

Lue said it after the game they don’t play one on one defense. You can see the players just getting beat over and over and someone has to help

They played one on one defense against Curry last game. PG-Morris-Bev all did their part and it was awasome. They just didn't play against one of the freakish, young, intimidating and physical frontcourt of the nba.(Adams-Hayes-Zion-İngram) When you have a lot of Veterans in your roster this happens, they tend to pick their fights. We just need some youth to balance our roster.

True, Mann did well and that's why he continues to get minutes even though his plus/minus is in the red overall. But when you pressure the ball almost everybody in the NBA eventually "gets beat" off the dribble. Protecting the paint is done by others. And you see how weakside help by a PG is not really a factor. Reggie got to the spot but got creamed.

Honestly thought Reggie did a good job in that play, he got to the spot, was outside the circle and could argue for a charge there, but refs might have gotten too excited by the dunk to call it, lol

[og15]

Everybody says we need a pg but man give me a goon in the paint that can rebound. Even if his offense is subpar we need a dude that can have somebody think twice before coming into the paint. I don't believe I saw one contested shot in the paint tonight. It was a f*ckin' layup line

heh you beat me by 30 seconds lol

We had a block and multiple plays blown up that led to dump off passes and or no one helping the helper. We just don’t rotate fast enough or clean up the play when we do. Prime Dwight isn’t stopping this much bad defense and when we did rotate Reggie got dunked on

Look at these weak help. We trap and Lou barely touches Jax and Reggie is so small he can’t stop the ball

Watch on YouTube

Lou was too far away to tag the roll man properly, it was a quick play, so I get it. Morris was coming in to be the help man and tag the roller, but Reggie also came and Morris let him go, so they wouldn't both be there.

Reggie still looked like he got there in time and it should have been a charge. I don't know what exactly the defensive plan was, I'd have to see other plays and look at how they were guarding last night, but there was some communication issues with Reggie and Morris.

[Young Sterling]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

[Young Sterling]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

That would be the worse outcome and you can’t even trade George even though we shouldn’t he’s a star.McGee and Whiteside got played off the floor in the playoffs I don’t see how they help.

We need to improve defensively but don’t gut the team. For no other reason you don’t want to lose star power and still have a bunch of injury prone guys

I would only trade George if we got another star back from say a disgruntled team or a small market team. Detroit wanted Blake, I imagine PG13 has plenty of suitors. The clippers did their DD around the league in terms of assessing PG's value prior to giving him the max extension. The organization isn't dumb, even though it does a bunch of questionable stuff from time to time..

You gotta think Big. For the most part, championship winning teams have a big defensive anchor who consistently plays good defense. Everything about Zubac is inconsistent, and if you're saying McGee got played off the floor in playoffs, then Zuby doesn't even belong on the floor from his performances. He makes me miss Deandre.

Lakers have all those titles and also happen to have some of the most dominant bigs to ever play the game (Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, Robert Sacre etc) and they got a bunch of titles. Clippers have no titles, and Deandre is arguably the best center to have ever put on a Clipper uniform... We need to think BIG

[TheNewEra]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

That would be the worse outcome and you can’t even trade George even though we shouldn’t he’s a star.McGee and Whiteside got played off the floor in the playoffs I don’t see how they help.

We need to improve defensively but don’t gut the team. For no other reason you don’t want to lose star power and still have a bunch of injury prone guys

I would only trade George if we got another star back from say a disgruntled team or a small market team. Detroit wanted Blake, I imagine PG13 has plenty of suitors. The clippers did their DD around the league in terms of assessing PG's value prior to giving him the max extension. The organization isn't dumb, even though it does a bunch of questionable stuff from time to time..

You gotta think Big. For the most part, championship winning teams have a big defensive anchor who consistently plays good defense. Everything about Zubac is inconsistent, and if you're saying McGee got played off the floor in playoffs, then Zuby doesn't even belong on the floor from his performances. He makes me miss Deandre.

Lakers have all those titles and also happen to have some of the most dominant bigs to ever play the game (Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, Robert Sacre etc) and they got a bunch of titles. Clippers have no titles, and Deandre is arguably the best center to have ever put on a Clipper uniform... We need to think BIG

Teams are going to give you lower value than you think trading a star player. Harden and Blake trades didn’t bring back game changers. Outside of Ibaka and Batum this past offseason was pretty bad so idk

Odd case when Zu was one of the biggest factors in the first and second round last year. You think we win those series without Zu and just Kawhi when PG was off and the entire bench was buns? Mook helped but we put pressure on teams with the two man pick and roll. DJ couldn’t hit free throws and wasnt hitting shots unless dunking and we absolutely had the same conversations about DJ in his hands when it wasn’t a lob.

They have similar stats and DJ played 4 to 5 more minutes and had Chris Paul

[TheNewEra]

heh you beat me by 30 seconds lol

We had a block and multiple plays blown up that led to dump off passes and or no one helping the helper. We just don’t rotate fast enough or clean up the play when we do. Prime Dwight isn’t stopping this much bad defense and when we did rotate Reggie got dunked on

Look at these weak help. We trap and Lou barely touches Jax and Reggie is so small he can’t stop the ball

Watch on YouTube

Lou was too far away to tag the roll man properly, it was a quick play, so I get it. Morris was coming in to be the help man and tag the roller, but Reggie also came and Morris let him go, so they wouldn't both be there.

Reggie still looked like he got there in time and it should have been a charge. I don't know what exactly the defensive plan was, I'd have to see other plays and look at how they were guarding last night, but there was some communication issues with Reggie and Morris.

At three seconds you can see Lou in range to grab him but didn’t try to do anything and Mook could of committed harder as well to stop the play. Looked like a 50/50 play to me because Hayes does look like he’s about to go up when Reggie sets his feet. Lue called them out after the game for not bringing the effort

[TheNewEra]

Dribble penetration that comes that easily absolutely can be put on the guards. The opposing teams are not running some amazing sets and constantly getting cutters on the move. This team is allowing guys to constantly take them off the dribble with little to no effort to get back into the play and compete to contest.

Lue said it after the game they don’t play one on one defense. You can see the players just getting beat over and over and someone has to help

They played one on one defense against Curry last game. PG-Morris-Bev all did their part and it was awasome. They just didn't play against one of the freakish, young, intimidating and physical frontcourt of the nba.(Adams-Hayes-Zion-İngram) When you have a lot of Veterans in your roster this happens, they tend to pick their fights. We just need some youth to balance our roster.

True, Mann did well and that's why he continues to get minutes even though his plus/minus is in the red overall. But when you pressure the ball almost everybody in the NBA eventually "gets beat" off the dribble. Protecting the paint is done by others. And you see how weakside help by a PG is not really a factor. Reggie got to the spot but got creamed.

You can’t be inconsistent with your effort and think to turn it on all the way for the playoffs. Vet team or not they haven’t proven enough or shown enough defensively to warrant not bringing maximum effort. A team that got burned 3-1 should know better and Kawhi called out consistency

[esqtvd]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

You can't put a championship team together on the fly with a month left in the season. Many of our struggles come from THIS group not having enough familiarity together. We have two new starters, and the second unit has nothing to build on from the Lou and Trezz Show either. Zu cannot pick and roll.

Dumping PG is a discussion for the offseason--and then only if Kawhi flees. For the foreseeable, this is it, folks.

[esqtvd]

They played one on one defense against Curry last game. PG-Morris-Bev all did their part and it was awasome. They just didn't play against one of the freakish, young, intimidating and physical frontcourt of the nba.(Adams-Hayes-Zion-İngram) When you have a lot of Veterans in your roster this happens, they tend to pick their fights. We just need some youth to balance our roster.

True, Mann did well and that's why he continues to get minutes even though his plus/minus is in the red overall. But when you pressure the ball almost everybody in the NBA eventually "gets beat" off the dribble. Protecting the paint is done by others. And you see how weakside help by a PG is not really a factor. Reggie got to the spot but got creamed.

You can’t be inconsistent with your effort and think to turn it on all the way for the playoffs. Vet team or not they haven’t proven enough or shown enough defensively to warrant not bringing maximum effort. A team that got burned 3-1 should know better and Kawhi called out consistency

True they didn't bring it, but this is also the NBA's #1 team in the paint where we've been struggling anyway. Then add in no Beverley, 3 quick fouls on Zu and then no Ibaka. Perfect storm.

[RingColluder]

True, Mann did well and that's why he continues to get minutes even though his plus/minus is in the red overall. But when you pressure the ball almost everybody in the NBA eventually "gets beat" off the dribble. Protecting the paint is done by others. And you see how weakside help by a PG is not really a factor. Reggie got to the spot but got creamed.

You can’t be inconsistent with your effort and think to turn it on all the way for the playoffs. Vet team or not they haven’t proven enough or shown enough defensively to warrant not bringing maximum effort. A team that got burned 3-1 should know better and Kawhi called out consistency

True they didn't bring it, but this is also the NBA's #1 team in the paint where we've been struggling anyway. Then add in no Beverley, 3 quick fouls on Zu and then no Ibaka. Perfect storm.

Imagine had Montrez been on the team still and we'd have 90% of this board screaming for Zu to come in and that we would have won had he gotten more minutes.

[og15]

Trade Paul George for a disgruntled superstar + KEY role players in a multi team trade, our ONLY solution. We can't trade our role players because of cap flexibility, salary, blah blah. But if we trade PG13 in a multi team trade, we can attach Zubac and Pat Bev's salary along with guys like Fi for dumping/clearing purposes. PG is booty, and we need to go after a Whiteside/McGee type player along with a superstar like Westbrook/Beal/ Even Oladipo or Jerami Grant + Role players would be better than Paul George.

Paul George is our greatest asset. Time to flip him in a multi team trade for 1 superstar and like 2 key role players (Thad Young, Rubio, Sato)

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

Triple double is nice for the stat sheet, but it doesn't mean you are winning or playing wining basketball. Westbrook has a consistent pattern of poor decision making and hero ball in the playoffs. His heart translates to trying to carry the team in his back and sometimes shoot you out of games.

He won MVP but has regressed since then, so that doesn't help with judging them now, and he was never a perennial MVP type. PG was a top MVP candidate on the same team as Westbrook. Westbrook without Durant has three first exits outside of last season where he got to the 2nd round on the back of Harden.

McGee makes $4.2M, only played 9.6 mpg in the playoffs and was DNP-CD for 7/21 playoffs games. He plays championship basketball in that he's tagged in to top teams for championships, sure. That's not a needle moving player.

Whiteside is a stats first, wins later player, hence why his career high is 1.2 assists a game. Black hole in offense. Defensively he's about rebounds and blocks over positioning. Check out what he did last time he was in the playoffs. It's no coincidence that it was a lottery team that ended up giving him his minimum contract this season.

[og15]

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

You can't put a championship team together on the fly with a month left in the season. Many of our struggles come from THIS group not having enough familiarity together. We have two new starters, and the second unit has nothing to build on from the Lou and Trezz Show either. Zu cannot pick and roll.

Dumping PG is a discussion for the offseason--and then only if Kawhi flees. For the foreseeable, this is it, folks.

Familiarity is only an excuse for so long though, everyone in the league is dealing with COVID related issues, many teams have had more issues with that than LAC. Many teams have new guys, the Clippers returned a lot of players.

Also all this lack of familiarity and they've been able to figure it out on offense, they've been able to kill it from the 3PT line, even Zu who you mention in pick and roll, the Lou/Zu combo has been great on offense, so the problem isn't that the second unit has nothing to build on as it relates to offense. The problem is defense, and yes, personnel matters, and there are big personnel issues, coaching strategy matters, and there have been changes in defensive coaching that may or may not be culprits, yes, effort matters, and that can be harder to quantify, but excuses can only suffice for so long since every other team has the same barriers.

Phoenix is top 10 in Ortg and Drtg, one of their top 2 players was just added, the added Crowder, they added Kaminsky part way through the season, they had COVID issues, they had games cancelled, they had a losing stretch and bounced back. Sure, CP3 as one of their top two guys is on a different level as an on and off court leader to Kawhi and George, but I'm not convinced that's the differentiating factor between the two teams.

We're going to have to see what they bring the next 10-15 games, and it will likely give us the guide for what realistic expectations we should have in the playoffs. Hopefully they figure things out from all aspects, coaching, players, etc and make a strong push.

[esqtvd]

You can’t be inconsistent with your effort and think to turn it on all the way for the playoffs. Vet team or not they haven’t proven enough or shown enough defensively to warrant not bringing maximum effort. A team that got burned 3-1 should know better and Kawhi called out consistency

True they didn't bring it, but this is also the NBA's #1 team in the paint where we've been struggling anyway. Then add in no Beverley, 3 quick fouls on Zu and then no Ibaka. Perfect storm.

Imagine had Montrez been on the team still and we'd have 90% of this board screaming for Zu to come in and that we would have won had he gotten more minutes.

This year, Marcus goes 0-5 for 0 points and 2 rebounds but the PGs who weigh 170 lbs get the flak for our softness in the paint. Some guys just have the gift of never getting caught in the crossfire. The guy's 6'8" and weighs 240, ffs.

“No resistance. No toughness. I thought they just ... we didn’t give any resistance. We didn’t show any toughness tonight, and that’s why they had 72 points in the paint.

“They were more physical than us,” Lue said. “They were tougher than us, and you saw the results. We just got to be better. We got to be more physical. We got to have a defensive mind-set to start every game. ... I don’t care who you’re playing.”

“You know, until we show some toughness and until we show some willingness to guard one-on-one, I think it’s going to be tough for us. We got to take that responsibility every single night, and we didn’t do that tonight.”

[RingColluder]

True they didn't bring it, but this is also the NBA's #1 team in the paint where we've been struggling anyway. Then add in no Beverley, 3 quick fouls on Zu and then no Ibaka. Perfect storm.

Imagine had Montrez been on the team still and we'd have 90% of this board screaming for Zu to come in and that we would have won had he gotten more minutes.

This year, Marcus goes 0-5 for 0 points and 2 rebounds but the PGs who weigh 170 lbs get the flak for our softness in the paint. Some guys just have the gift of never getting caught in the crossfire. The guy's 6'8" and weighs 240, ffs.

“No resistance. No toughness. I thought they just ... we didn’t give any resistance. We didn’t show any toughness tonight, and that’s why they had 72 points in the paint.

“They were more physical than us,” Lue said. “They were tougher than us, and you saw the results. We just got to be better. We got to be more physical. We got to have a defensive mind-set to start every game. ... I don’t care who you’re playing.”

“You know, until we show some toughness and until we show some willingness to guard one-on-one, I think it’s going to be tough for us. We got to take that responsibility every single night, and we didn’t do that tonight.”

We've been over this, but I need to see Morris as a starter in place of Batum getting 8-10 touches a game before getting on the hate bandwagon for him lol. He would definitely give Kawhi and PG some rest breaks.

Not blaming Reggie or Bev or whoever (Lou I am pissed since before the Pelicans game he was up at 2:30 am at the club partying on social media) it's once again the roster depth. Why we didn't do anything in the offseason is still the worst.

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[esqtvd]

Imagine had Montrez been on the team still and we'd have 90% of this board screaming for Zu to come in and that we would have won had he gotten more minutes.

This year, Marcus goes 0-5 for 0 points and 2 rebounds but the PGs who weigh 170 lbs get the flak for our softness in the paint. Some guys just have the gift of never getting caught in the crossfire. The guy's 6'8" and weighs 240, ffs.

“No resistance. No toughness. I thought they just ... we didn’t give any resistance. We didn’t show any toughness tonight, and that’s why they had 72 points in the paint.

“They were more physical than us,” Lue said. “They were tougher than us, and you saw the results. We just got to be better. We got to be more physical. We got to have a defensive mind-set to start every game. ... I don’t care who you’re playing.”

“You know, until we show some toughness and until we show some willingness to guard one-on-one, I think it’s going to be tough for us. We got to take that responsibility every single night, and we didn’t do that tonight.”

We've been over this, but I need to see Morris as a starter in place of Batum getting 8-10 touches a game before getting on the hate bandwagon for him lol. He would definitely give Kawhi and PG some rest breaks.

Not blaming Reggie or Bev or whoever (Lou I am pissed since before the Pelicans game he was up at 2:30 am at the club partying on social media) it's once again the roster depth. Why we didn't do anything in the offseason is still the worst.

FIRE FRANK

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[RingColluder]

This year, Marcus goes 0-5 for 0 points and 2 rebounds but the PGs who weigh 170 lbs get the flak for our softness in the paint. Some guys just have the gift of never getting caught in the crossfire. The guy's 6'8" and weighs 240, ffs.

We've been over this, but I need to see Morris as a starter in place of Batum getting 8-10 touches a game before getting on the hate bandwagon for him lol. He would definitely give Kawhi and PG some rest breaks.

Not blaming Reggie or Bev or whoever (Lou I am pissed since before the Pelicans game he was up at 2:30 am at the club partying on social media) it's once again the roster depth. Why we didn't do anything in the offseason is still the worst.

FIRE FRANK

O God mercy not another FIRE [fill in name here] sig

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[madmaxmedia]

George can't be traded, he just signed an extension.

Whiteside and McGee are not moving the needle, and Westbrook is not a "superstar"v when it comes to impact at this stage, and is not a good playoff performer.

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

Triple double is nice for the stat sheet, but it doesn't mean you are winning or playing wining basketball. Westbrook has a consistent pattern of poor decision making and hero ball in the playoffs. His heart translates to trying to carry the team in his back and sometimes shoot you out of games.

He won MVP but has regressed since then, so that doesn't help with judging them now, and he was never a perennial MVP type. PG was a top MVP candidate on the same team as Westbrook. Westbrook without Durant has three first exits outside of last season where he got to the 2nd round on the back of Harden.

McGee makes $4.2M, only played 9.6 mpg in the playoffs and was DNP-CD for 7/21 playoffs games. He plays championship basketball in that he's tagged in to top teams for championships, sure. That's not a needle moving player.

Whiteside is a stats first, wins later player, hence why his career high is 1.2 assists a game. Black hole in offense. Defensively he's about rebounds and blocks over positioning. Check out what he did last time he was in the playoffs. It's no coincidence that it was a lottery team that ended up giving him his minimum contract this season.

I think Westbrook's ability to initiate is underlooked, but he never improved his jumper and it will hurt more and more with every passing year. His FT% is an abysmal 57.5% this year, and he is still getting to the line 6 times per game.

If the Clippers could absorb his salary and keep Kawhi and PG, I might still take his salary if it we could get him for a package of unwanted contracts. But I don't think our salary structure could reasonably accommodate it anyway.

[og15]

Oh wth, I didn't know PG couldn't be traded. Damn that sucks ass. I was really hoping that was gonna be a Blake Griffin play. Probably next season for sure then he might be traded, unless we win of course..

Whiteside and McGee would absolutely move the needle. Javale plays championship basketball, and I thought that before he won a title with the Warriors. Zubac is hella inconsistent, but I like Serge a lot. Cheap options.

Also I'll take Westbrook over PG. One guy won MVP, and the other guy talks like he won it. Westbrook has heart, something PG does not have. He also drops a triple double every night, so much more skilled than PG.

Triple double is nice for the stat sheet, but it doesn't mean you are winning or playing wining basketball. Westbrook has a consistent pattern of poor decision making and hero ball in the playoffs. His heart translates to trying to carry the team in his back and sometimes shoot you out of games.

He won MVP but has regressed since then, so that doesn't help with judging them now, and he was never a perennial MVP type. PG was a top MVP candidate on the same team as Westbrook. Westbrook without Durant has three first exits outside of last season where he got to the 2nd round on the back of Harden.

McGee makes $4.2M, only played 9.6 mpg in the playoffs and was DNP-CD for 7/21 playoffs games. He plays championship basketball in that he's tagged in to top teams for championships, sure. That's not a needle moving player.

Whiteside is a stats first, wins later player, hence why his career high is 1.2 assists a game. Black hole in offense. Defensively he's about rebounds and blocks over positioning. Check out what he did last time he was in the playoffs. It's no coincidence that it was a lottery team that ended up giving him his minimum contract this season.

I think Westbrook's ability to initiate is underlooked, but he never improved his jumper and it will hurt more and more with every passing year. His FT% is an abysmal 57.5% this year, and he is still getting to the line 6 times per game.

If the Clippers could absorb his salary and keep Kawhi and PG, I might still take his salary if it we could get him for a package of unwanted contracts. But I don't think our salary structure could reasonably accommodate it anyway.

Westbrook shifts the defense because of his attacking. I think the difficulty with Westbrook is that he needs to attack and shoot to create, unlike a guy like Paul for example who can break down the defense and create without needing to shoot a lot, but can also put pressure on the defense with his scoring.

The difficulty with Westbrook on a team like the Clippers is that to get the max out of his playmaking, you have to allow him to shoot a decent amount (basically like 18-20 FGA), and if he's shooting that much, it's taking away from George and Kawhi at that point.

I don't dislike Westbrook like some people do, but he has limitations that make his impact best in specific situations.