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Post#241 » by NippySudz » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:17 pm

I don't like that Utah outscored the clippers in the second half.
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Post#242 » by nickhx2 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:23 pm

same. clips got a little lackadaisical. at same time jazz came out with a much better intensity. they are a great team, so roll over and die was never gonna be in the cards.
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Post#243 » by nickhx2 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:24 pm

clips also missed like 3 or 4 wide open threes in the 4th quarter, and kawhi sat, so really it made it look different than it really was toward the end.
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Post#244 » by NickP » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:24 pm

NippySudz wrote:I'm so nervous about tomorrows game.

Yep. Me too and almost every fan of our team. How many lives do we have left? 8-)
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Post#245 » by NickP » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:27 pm

nickhx2 wrote:same. clips got a little lackadaisical. at same time jazz came out with a much better intensity. they are a great team, so roll over and die was never gonna be in the cards.

Yes we could see a Jazz run coming from a mile but it's seems like our guys were oblivious to it and nonchalantly chucking up shots.
I don't like that we've come to rely so much on the 3 pointer that if it's not falling, we fail to attack the basket and draw fouls.
I'm very afraid of getting into a shooting contest with this team especially in their house. We won't win that way. Attack attack attack!
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Post#246 » by Quake Griffin » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:29 pm

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playaloc916 wrote:That last stretch was painful to watch. So many missed threes. If the Jazz miss, someone needs to make them pay by getting a high percentage shot. The Jazz got back in it because nobody wanted to get decided to take it inside.

Exactly!
It was extremely painful to watch guys simply chucking shots and not attacking the basket. This leads to the Jazz thinking they've somewhat of a momentum going home. We just stop playing late in the 4th for some reason.
If Lue can somehow manage to get them to play and execute till the final buzzer sounds then this team is golden.
But now it's a 3 game series and with 2 on the road it's a tough climb with no room for error. We can win this but literally, zero room for error.

I actually love that this happened and we were still able to come out with the win. The last place I want this team to be mentally is thinking they're anywhere close to the driver's seat in this series. Remember beating Luka 'nem by 25 in Game 4? LOL. The media thought the entire script had changed. Charles Barkley declaring the Clips aren't losing another game. Oh really?

NO!
You are not in the driver's seat. Utah still has that. You still have to win on their home floor where they play incredibly well - a home floor where you have come up tails TWICE when you shouldn't have. You have a tall task and, technically, you haven't done **** until you beat them there.

I'm glad it happened and I hope it keeps them on alert at all times. You should be on alert at all times with Donovan Mitchell's bombs away approach.


I'm also expecting Mike Conley to play or Willis Reed his way to playing. So, yeah.
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Post#247 » by clipperlover » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:33 pm

The lax attitude started in the 2nd. We gave the hope for Game 5 by letting them get back to hitting shots.

Those two unnecessary Reggie Jackson 3s in the 4th coming out of a timeout forced Lue to put Kawhi back in the game. Kawhi is partly to blame because he made some poor plays in the 3rd that allowed the Jazz to see some light.

Batum is such an underrated guy and key to this team. He is the one guy that Lue can trust to make the right plays. He isn't going to throw lazy passes or take ill-advised shots when he have a big lead. He is going to make the smart plays. His plays aren't flashy, but they are the correct plays.
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Post#248 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:43 pm

nickhx2 wrote:clips also missed like 3 or 4 wide open threes in the 4th quarter, and kawhi sat, so really it made it look different than it really was toward the end.


I'm fine with living and dying with open 3's, we have a bunch of shooters and this is what we do. We make a couple of those in the 4th (especially that Reggie look where he was so open he took a dribble just to step to a better spot), and this game never gets to the stage it did (which was at least a stage away from really getting scared.)

You can tell (or maybe it's me) that the team gets a jolt of energy when they hit a couple of 3's back to back. We are good enough overall and at 3PT shooting that often we can coast to victory as long as we're hitting 3's. We should take good ones when they're there, but we shouldn't ever become dependent like that on them.
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Post#249 » by NickP » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:50 pm

clipperlover wrote:The lax attitude started in the 2nd. We gave the hope for Game 5 by letting them get back to hitting shots.

Those two unnecessary Reggie Jackson 3s in the 4th coming out of a timeout forced Lue to put Kawhi back in the game. Kawhi is partly to blame because he made some poor plays in the 3rd that allowed the Jazz to see some light.

Batum is such an underrated guy and key to this team. He is the one guy that Lue can trust to make the right plays. He isn't going to throw lazy passes or take ill-advised shots when he have a big lead. He is going to make the smart plays. His plays aren't flashy, but they are the correct plays.

Actually reading this post makes me wonder why we don't have Batum bringing the ball up instead of PG? Can you imagine Batum with that high IQ finding the open guy or the cutter?
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Post#250 » by nickhx2 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:clips also missed like 3 or 4 wide open threes in the 4th quarter, and kawhi sat, so really it made it look different than it really was toward the end.


I'm fine with living and dying with open 3's, we have a bunch of shooters and this is what we do. We make a couple of those in the 4th (especially that Reggie look where he was so open he took a dribble just to step to a better spot), and this game never gets to the stage it did (which was at least a stage away from really getting scared.)

You can tell (or maybe it's me) that the team gets a jolt of energy when they hit a couple of 3's back to back. We are good enough overall and at 3PT shooting that often we can coast to victory as long as we're hitting 3's. We should take good ones when they're there, but we shouldn't ever become dependent like that on them.


same. quality looks are what wins you games in the playoffs. generating them over and over will lead to wins. it coulda easily gone our way and the game would've been over two minutes earlier.

i will say that kawhi making a buncha bad/weird decisions in the 3rd didn't help at all. but we survived.
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Post#251 » by madmaxmedia » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:13 pm

NickP wrote:
clipperlover wrote:The lax attitude started in the 2nd. We gave the hope for Game 5 by letting them get back to hitting shots.

Those two unnecessary Reggie Jackson 3s in the 4th coming out of a timeout forced Lue to put Kawhi back in the game. Kawhi is partly to blame because he made some poor plays in the 3rd that allowed the Jazz to see some light.

Batum is such an underrated guy and key to this team. He is the one guy that Lue can trust to make the right plays. He isn't going to throw lazy passes or take ill-advised shots when he have a big lead. He is going to make the smart plays. His plays aren't flashy, but they are the correct plays.

Actually reading this post makes me wonder why we don't have Batum bringing the ball up instead of PG? Can you imagine Batum with that high IQ finding the open guy or the cutter?


I don't think he's good enough a ball handler. But for sure we can get him the ball more often near the top of the key instead of the corners, where he can put his court vision to better use.
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Re: Round 2 Game 4 v. Jazz - 7 p.m. PST TNT 

Post#252 » by clipperlover » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:23 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
NickP wrote:
clipperlover wrote:The lax attitude started in the 2nd. We gave the hope for Game 5 by letting them get back to hitting shots.

Those two unnecessary Reggie Jackson 3s in the 4th coming out of a timeout forced Lue to put Kawhi back in the game. Kawhi is partly to blame because he made some poor plays in the 3rd that allowed the Jazz to see some light.

Batum is such an underrated guy and key to this team. He is the one guy that Lue can trust to make the right plays. He isn't going to throw lazy passes or take ill-advised shots when he have a big lead. He is going to make the smart plays. His plays aren't flashy, but they are the correct plays.

Actually reading this post makes me wonder why we don't have Batum bringing the ball up instead of PG? Can you imagine Batum with that high IQ finding the open guy or the cutter?


I don't think he's good enough a ball handler. But for sure we can get him the ball more often near the top of the key instead of the corners, where he can put his court vision to better use.


Yes. He doesn't have the handles to be a primary, but we should be swinging the ball to him regularly and having others cut.
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Post#253 » by Kelphus » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:00 pm

I'm EXCITED about tomorrow's game. I think the sheen has come off the Jazz... their two losses were close, Clips were always in it... and Clips wins were dominant. Utah is 2.5 point favorite in the betting lines... very small home court advantage.

If Clips can keep it up, we come home to close it out Friday.
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Post#254 » by nickhx2 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:18 pm

there was an article recently about PG learning to be a pg (on espn) with chauncey's guidance - anyone happen to read it? it was an insider article.

not that i expect him to ever be that dude but maybe a summer spent working purely on handles and reviewing all his bad passes could elevate him to another level, come next season
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Post#255 » by Quake Griffin » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:00 am

Conley questionable now
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Post#256 » by esqtvd » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:18 am

nickhx2 wrote:there was an article recently about PG learning to be a pg (on espn) with chauncey's guidance - anyone happen to read it? it was an insider article.

not that i expect him to ever be that dude but maybe a summer spent working purely on handles and reviewing all his bad passes could elevate him to another level, come next season


I haven't broken them down but there are his TOs as the PG/primary ballhandler, and then there are the TOs you get as the SG/SF primary scorer, usually trying to attack the hoop. PG gets both on his ledger.

As OG properly observed, you're not going to get the 3-to-1 TO ratio you want from a proper point guard but 2-to-1 is entirely acceptable from a guy getting you 20/7/7.
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Post#257 » by Max Headrom » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:11 am

Quake Griffin wrote:Conley questionable now

He's been listed as questionable every game up until this point. But even if he does play, look at how James Harden looked tonight and he's had way more time off than Conley. Hamstring injuries are the worst because you can reaggravate it so easily. Clippers fans know all too well with CP3
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Post#258 » by reignfire » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:26 am

If you have watched the NBA playoffs long enough you know that in tough games and tough situations it's where the stars are needed the most because all others fade away.

Kawhi Leonard and Paul George playing well and leading is key to winning tomorrow.
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Post#259 » by mttwlsn16 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:22 pm

Kawhi out tonight and probably the rest of the series. We're done.

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Post#260 » by Captain Ballmer » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:22 pm

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