Gane 59: Los Angeles Clippers (39-19) @ Phoenix Suns (24-34)

[esqtvd]

This is what I like to see. Kawhi being the scoring leader, lou will not having 20 or Trez. Its a nice balanced effort from the bench instead of two guys just scoring. I like it. the bench unit is so deadly when other guys are scoring

of course it helps to have two 20 pt scorers on your bench

well, it shows all the accusations of ball-hogging were BS

Lou & Trezz had nobody to defer to

and their offensive threat is gonna open things up for Jax and Sham

[esqtvd]

Harrell in for the finish not bad for the love of god we actually got him a rest break and didn’t die

Zu was minus-5 in the 4th, I believe

for the record

that's fine. Its great that he was in the game. Gave them a different look. Trez was a negative 3 before the substitution. gave trez the second wind he needed instead of playing him 15 straight mins

Btw, Zu only played 20 mins. This is what I'm talking about. Fine playing him 20 mins if you're going to stretch it out to include some 4th quarter action but the early foul trouble zu had more to do with that.

I believe Trezz was plus+5 when Zubac entered, and finished plus+4. Zubac was plus+10 when he came in and plus+5 when he left.

For the record.

[MartinToVaught]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257348/Clippers-Interested-In-Re-Signing-Both-Montrezl-Harrell-Marcus-Morris

imagine paying an undersized center who can't stretch the floor and is terrible on defense $25 million a year.

I hope the FO is not as dumb as doc rivers and pay trezz that kind of money

I'm hoping it's either a sign-and-trade or a Blake situation where he's signed to set up for a trade later.

[Yogatti]

^It has to be a sign and trade. I refuse to believe Jerry West is content with having trash brother trezz as our center going forward for this team.

And now that reggie is on this team, lou can get the boot as well

[esqtvd]

Suns just put up 131 on the Jazz and they're sitting at 82.

Held 'em to 39%. We missed a lot of open shots. PG and MM were a combined 10-28. This could have been a blowout.

Still, it was a good win, and we did it on cruise control, but the right kind of cruise control--with smothering D, good ball movement, and not TOO many [15] turnovers. It wasn't sloppy or lazy.

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[TheNewEra]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/257348/Clippers-Interested-In-Re-Signing-Both-Montrezl-Harrell-Marcus-Morris

imagine paying an undersized center who can't stretch the floor and is terrible on defense $25 million a year.

I hope the FO is not as dumb as doc rivers and pay trezz that kind of money

I'm hoping it's either a sign-and-trade or a Blake situation where he's signed to set up for a trade later.

Would be interesting if they did get both. Would assume it would be one or the other and you might get Marcus cheaper if you give Markieff a reasonable deal. Just have to see how it plays out but I don’t believe Green will return. With he Hornets and maybe Cavs being the only real teams looking for bigs could see Harrell staying for 15 or 17 mil per season. Then you would assume Morris would command more being the starter and third option

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[TheNewEra]

You could also pay Morris and Harrell then dump McGruder to save money using some second rounders. Use Kabengele to replace the Green role and hope Mann is ready to fill in for Reggie. Doubt Reggie comes back unless something crazy like we win a title and Lou retires. So many random combinations for the offseason

[NippySudz]

Zu was minus-5 in the 4th, I believe

for the record

that's fine. Its great that he was in the game. Gave them a different look. Trez was a negative 3 before the substitution. gave trez the second wind he needed instead of playing him 15 straight mins

Btw, Zu only played 20 mins. This is what I'm talking about. Fine playing him 20 mins if you're going to stretch it out to include some 4th quarter action but the early foul trouble zu had more to do with that.

I believe Trezz was plus+5 when Zubac entered, and finished plus+4. Zubac was plus+10 when he came in and plus+5 when he left.

For the record.

I'll take your word for it.

Its important for zu to start getting 4th quarter reps in the regular season to be ready for the playoffs when his number is called because it will be called. that's just how the playoffs are. He's inexperienced. It's unfortunate our center position relies on a 22year old and an undersized center, but its important to develop the 22yr old.

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[esqtvd]

that's fine. Its great that he was in the game. Gave them a different look. Trez was a negative 3 before the substitution. gave trez the second wind he needed instead of playing him 15 straight mins

Btw, Zu only played 20 mins. This is what I'm talking about. Fine playing him 20 mins if you're going to stretch it out to include some 4th quarter action but the early foul trouble zu had more to do with that.

I believe Trezz was plus+5 when Zubac entered, and finished plus+4. Zubac was plus+10 when he came in and plus+5 when he left.

For the record.

I'll take your word for it.

Its important for zu to start getting 4th quarter reps in the regular season to be ready for the playoffs when his number is called because it will be called. that's just how the playoffs are. He's inexperienced. It's unfortunate our center position relies on a 22year old and an undersized center, but its important to develop the 22yr old.

only if it doesn't risk or end up losing us the game

we have had very little margin for error all year and that's why Zubac sat

and now we're at battle stations--no time for Daddy Day Care
we need to tear off a 20-4 or so


we also need to give a look at small ball, with no Trezz OR Zu
that'll get Trezz his rest just as well
and may be more effective

not a lot of room to experiment
and I don't consider tonight's experiment a success

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only went 7/17 because he missed the dunk and putback(no foul called on the putback )

a great showing for him.

[NippySudz]

I believe Trezz was plus+5 when Zubac entered, and finished plus+4. Zubac was plus+10 when he came in and plus+5 when he left.

For the record.

I'll take your word for it.

Its important for zu to start getting 4th quarter reps in the regular season to be ready for the playoffs when his number is called because it will be called. that's just how the playoffs are. He's inexperienced. It's unfortunate our center position relies on a 22year old and an undersized center, but its important to develop the 22yr old.

only if it doesn't risk or end up losing us the game

we have had very little margin for error all year and that's why Zubac sat

and now we're at battle stations--no time for Daddy Day Care
we need to tear off a 20-4 or so


we also need to give a look at small ball, with no Trezz OR Zu
that'll get Trezz his rest just as well
and may be more effective

not a lot of room to experiment
and I don't consider tonight's experiment a success

We had plenty of times where he could have experimented. The Atlanta game is one example of that. Just as we won games not playing zu in the 4th, we've lost some games not playing zu in the 4th.

I consider it a success. Mere fact that trez got a second wind and he got some experience and that we won. He needs reps. the 4th quarter is a different game, evevn when we're up. Have no problem with him being quickly yanked if he sucks, but give him the opportunity [at times]

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[esqtvd]

I'll take your word for it.

Its important for zu to start getting 4th quarter reps in the regular season to be ready for the playoffs when his number is called because it will be called. that's just how the playoffs are. He's inexperienced. It's unfortunate our center position relies on a 22year old and an undersized center, but its important to develop the 22yr old.

only if it doesn't risk or end up losing us the game

we have had very little margin for error all year and that's why Zubac sat

and now we're at battle stations--no time for Daddy Day Care
we need to tear off a 20-4 or so


we also need to give a look at small ball, with no Trezz OR Zu
that'll get Trezz his rest just as well
and may be more effective

not a lot of room to experiment
and I don't consider tonight's experiment a success

We had plenty of times where he could have experimented. The Atlanta game is one example of that. Just as we won games not playing zu in the 4th, we've lost some games not playing zu in the 4th.

I consider it a success. Mere fact that trez got a second wind and he got some experience and that we won. He needs reps. the 4th quarter is a different game, evevn when we're up. Have no problem with him being quickly yanked if he sucks, but give him the opportunity [at times]

You can lose a game in a 4th-quarter minute or two. That's always been the point.

The experiment wasn't exactly a failure but it was certainly inconclusive, and Zubac's minus-5 may or MAY NOT have resulted in Trezz getting a "second wind" and making up for those 5 points we gave back.


I just think it's too late now to risk a "W" on speculative PT for Zubac with only 24 games left. I'd rather look more at J-Myke and MM at the 5 and 4, which we also experimented with tonight.


Let's see how we feel on Friday when it's knotted up at 98 with 5 minutes to go.

[Darko Miliminutes]

I imagine all kinds of old fans from old teams follow around and boast ridiculous things. I'm probably about to be one of em i guess.

You guys struck gold with pg and reggie being friends. I've never met people people that didn;t sleep on RJ just to e surprised when they see him play when healthy. Now it seems unlikely that it''ll happen here without an injury but if you get the chance to see him in the lasr 5 minutes, dude is cild blooded. Steph barely edged him out in '16 for best clutch player.

Everybody sleeps on rj. It was fun to watch with the pistons when we first got him and then to see opposing teams and their fans react. So from an ex-team fan of your new player; enjoy this insanely cheap and very timely diamond in the rough. Personally i am waiting for Doc to see enough to trust him...i remember rj breakin a lot of hearts to end regulation the past few years.

[NippySudz]

only if it doesn't risk or end up losing us the game

we have had very little margin for error all year and that's why Zubac sat

and now we're at battle stations--no time for Daddy Day Care
we need to tear off a 20-4 or so


we also need to give a look at small ball, with no Trezz OR Zu
that'll get Trezz his rest just as well
and may be more effective

not a lot of room to experiment
and I don't consider tonight's experiment a success

We had plenty of times where he could have experimented. The Atlanta game is one example of that. Just as we won games not playing zu in the 4th, we've lost some games not playing zu in the 4th.

I consider it a success. Mere fact that trez got a second wind and he got some experience and that we won. He needs reps. the 4th quarter is a different game, evevn when we're up. Have no problem with him being quickly yanked if he sucks, but give him the opportunity [at times]

You can lose a game in a 4th-quarter minute or two. That's always been the point.

The experiment wasn't exactly a failure but it was certainly inconclusive, and Zubac's minus-5 may or MAY NOT have resulted in Trezz getting a "second wind" and making up for those 5 points we gave back.


I just think it's too late now to risk a "W" on speculative PT for Zubac with only 24 games left. I'd rather look more at J-Myke and MM at the 5 and 4, which we also experimented with tonight.


Let's see how we feel on Friday when it's knotted up at 98 with 5 minutes to go.

that's fair. Just as long we're not playing trez 15 plus straight game time minutes.

[MartinRiggs]

Morris and Jackson should be nice upgrades over Harkless and Robinson/Walton.