GAME 42: Clippers (26-15) @ Mavs (20-18)—NOTE TIME: Wednesday 6:30PM PDT

[Clemenza]

This team is just unwatchable and incredibly difficult to root for at this point.

Playoff P is not even a star, let alone a "superstar," and this is the dumbest franchise in sports if they're not at least thinking about trading him in the offseason.

He's the only one that showed up in this game. Wtf are you talking about? You're just hating and creating a narrative for the hell of it. The Clipper Doom Patrol, I swear man

With all due respect, I have no clue what game you're watching, truly. How anyone can watch the first 3 quarters of the game (till his 2 3's when we were down by 15) and say this.. I don't get it at all.

Ok f*ck it, PG sucks. What about the rest of the team who didn't show up. When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back for a victory or are you too enamored with what he did for the Spurs and Raptors?

[Captain Ballmer]

Ty Lue like screw it im not playing any of you three (Lou/Luke/Reggie)

Hopefully, finally, dreadfully The FO sees the necessity of a playmaker right? Right?

I'm sick of this easy layuops- open threes other teams playmakers generates for their Klebers, Richardson, Hardaway's while our wing rotations have to beat their man all game to create some isos or open threes that opponents generally let you take

[RingColluder]

He's the only one that showed up in this game. Wtf are you talking about? You're just hating and creating a narrative for the hell of it. The Clipper Doom Patrol, I swear man

With all due respect, I have no clue what game you're watching, truly. How anyone can watch the first 3 quarters of the game (till his 2 3's when we were down by 15) and say this.. I don't get it at all.

Ok f*ck it, PG sucks. What about the rest of the team who didn't show up. When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back for a victory or are you too enamored with what he did for the Spurs and Raptors?

When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back??? He does it every night with his style of basketball, his defense and his shooting in important situations when no one else wants the ball.

Do you not realize just bc someone finishes lets say 8-10 and PG has similar stats it matters WHEN they make the baskets? You're just someone who looks at stats without looking at when the plays were made, and how tough the baskets were that happened.

Kawhi shows up every **** night on Both ends of the ball and plays for the team. PG can only play HIS WAY that works 20% of the time and the rest of the time ruins games for us with his awful foul trouble, turnovers and shot selection.

[RingColluder]

I'm not ripping PG for the sake of an agenda, it's just yet another important game where he vanished during winning time. I have more faith in Kawhi to turn things around based on his prior track record as a player than I do in PG to become the real star and leader he was hyped up to be.

Really, my biggest complaint with Kawhi is how he demanded another star immediately, forcing us into a terrible trade instead of having some patience. That being said, that's also on the front office for not fully convincing him to buy in and trust the process. Load management isn't something he could help, he has a degenerative knee condition that has to be managed, so it's not really fair to criticize him for that - I'm sure he'd much rather have fully-healthy tendons than get a few more games off to rest.

You are **** SPOT ON.

other than our major disagreements on Zu and Harrell from last year, this is perfectly said. Us with SGA, Gallinari and draft picks (plus potentially still Harrell without PG being an egotistical fool) is better than this current team.

This team got worse since last year and that's the worst part of it.

They're gone thanks to Kawhi now what??? Gallo is sh*t this year, do ya'll even watch games or do you skim through them? This might even be the same person as MTV. Trez was Klutch Sports and against the team. You still on that **** too?

SGA is fantastic. Gallo would be in the veteran Batum type role doing lesser things. Trez WANTED to stay on the Clippers and was offended we didn't even offer him a contract but because PG was upset at him the didn't keep him. Read The Athletic articles. Read other Clipper sources other than just what you think happened. Trez helped EVERYONe on the 2nd team including Lou Williams and most likely Batum and others with his offensive game. Just bc he is a KLUTCH person he was, "against the team"? ???? Do you work for Paul George?????? I don't know anyone else online who somehow thinks he had a good game today, Jesus Christ.


So anyone who doesn't think PG is a superstar player totally helping this team is MTV? Stop being delusional about this team. Paul George is fundamentally not right for this team. Look at what he did w Westbrook and Carmelo! Just not a winning player.

[RingColluder]

I thought I heard it all, but hearing Kawhi Leonard has to step it up more and Paul George is the one helping this team This is remarkable stuff. I guess some people just fast forwarded to the last minute of the 3rd quarter and totally ignored the other 36 minutes of today's game and the last... 10-12 games this season too.

[esqtvd]

Whether everyone hates him or not he had to get a look in this game with Morris, Lou, Reggie, etc not showing up

Here's the thing--If you introduce too many variables at once it's no longer a scientific experiment, it's just throwing spaghetti against the wall. Nobody learns anything.

In science, if you do an experiment, the next thing you do is repeat the experiment with no other variables, to see if you get the same results. The key experiment is Marcus playing with the first unit and to a lesser degree Batum on the second.

To his credit, Marcus stayed aggressive [7 rebs] and kept firing, although 5-14 and 1-9 from distance is NOT gonna get it done. But scapegoating is bullsh*it. Keep firing, Marcus. We gotta get you going.

And that's why giving Kennard any of Marcus' burn would be the wrong move tonight. Even if Kennard comes in and shoots like a god and we even win the game [unlikely even if he does--we lost by 16] we have learned nothing and built nothing. Kennard is still nowhere near joining the rotation and Marcus still sucks.

Ty knew what he was doing. At age 31 with a month left before the playoffs, all the Clippers can do now is throw Marcus into the deep end of the pool and see if he sinks or swims. He swam on Sunday, sank tonight. It's a process.

You're thinking too deep on it. If Morris, Lou, Reggie, Batum, etc aren't making shots then give the $60 million dollar guy some minutes. F*ck it, its just one regular season game right

Always trying to understand their thinking. Building up Marcus is #1 right now. Letting him try and fail and learn from it is better than getting a lucky night out of Kennard. Kennard is not going to become a difference-maker between now and the playoffs. If Marcus doesn't, we're probably screwed.

[Clemenza]

With all due respect, I have no clue what game you're watching, truly. How anyone can watch the first 3 quarters of the game (till his 2 3's when we were down by 15) and say this.. I don't get it at all.

Ok f*ck it, PG sucks. What about the rest of the team who didn't show up. When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back for a victory or are you too enamored with what he did for the Spurs and Raptors?

When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back??? He does it every night with his style of basketball, his defense and his shooting in important situations when no one else wants the ball.

Do you not realize just bc someone finishes lets say 8-10 and PG has similar stats it matters WHEN they make the baskets? You're just someone who looks at stats without looking at when the plays were made, and how tough the baskets were that happened.

Kawhi shows up every **** night on Both ends of the ball and plays for the team. PG can only play HIS WAY that works 20% of the time and the rest of the time ruins games for us with his awful foul trouble, turnovers and shot selection.

No leadership, not enough points, and he's part of the front office. Where's the 40 point game at least once every two weeks at from the superstar? I'm not trying to be Kawhi vs PG but come on now. How many passes is Kawhi going to get? All the players that you guys are infatuated with he got them shipped out! I still believe in this team but the passes given as opposed to the players the Doom Patrol hates is getting out of hand. We all want the same thing, just call it fair and square.

[RingColluder]

Ok f*ck it, PG sucks. What about the rest of the team who didn't show up. When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back for a victory or are you too enamored with what he did for the Spurs and Raptors?

When's Kawhi going to put the team on his back??? He does it every night with his style of basketball, his defense and his shooting in important situations when no one else wants the ball.

Do you not realize just bc someone finishes lets say 8-10 and PG has similar stats it matters WHEN they make the baskets? You're just someone who looks at stats without looking at when the plays were made, and how tough the baskets were that happened.

Kawhi shows up every **** night on Both ends of the ball and plays for the team. PG can only play HIS WAY that works 20% of the time and the rest of the time ruins games for us with his awful foul trouble, turnovers and shot selection.

No leadership, not enough points, and he's part of the front office. Where's the 40 point game at least once every two weeks at from the superstar? I'm not trying to be Kawhi vs PG but come on now. How many passes is Kawhi going to get? All the players that you guys are infatuated with he got them shipped out! I still believe in this team but the passes given as opposed to the players the Doom Patrol hates is getting out of hand. We all want the same thing, just call it fair and square.

I totally agree Kawhi made an awful decision forcing them to trade for a superstar (especially Paul George) and giving up so much and all the draft picks. Totally agree with you on that.

I'm just talking him as a player, which we totally disagree on. But as Kawhi the GM, it's been a disaster.

[Clemenza]

You are **** SPOT ON.

other than our major disagreements on Zu and Harrell from last year, this is perfectly said. Us with SGA, Gallinari and draft picks (plus potentially still Harrell without PG being an egotistical fool) is better than this current team.

This team got worse since last year and that's the worst part of it.

They're gone thanks to Kawhi now what??? Gallo is sh*t this year, do ya'll even watch games or do you skim through them? This might even be the same person as MTV. Trez was Klutch Sports and against the team. You still on that **** too?

SGA is fantastic. Gallo would be in the veteran Batum type role doing lesser things. Trez WANTED to stay on the Clippers and was offended we didn't even offer him a contract but because PG was upset at him the didn't keep him. Read The Athletic articles. Read other Clipper sources other than just what you think happened. Trez helped EVERYONe on the 2nd team including Lou Williams and most likely Batum and others with his offensive game. Just bc he is a KLUTCH person he was, "against the team"? ???? Do you work for Paul George?????? I don't know anyone else online who somehow thinks he had a good game today, Jesus Christ.


So anyone who doesn't think PG is a superstar player totally helping this team is MTV? Stop being delusional about this team. Paul George is fundamentally not right for this team. Look at what he did w Westbrook and Carmelo! Just not a winning player.

Gallo was trash.. even trash in the "gritty" series against Golden State. And he's washed up in Atlanta. Cut the crap. I used to follow Trez on Twitter until he jumped ship. May his grandma RIP but he was gettin into sh*t with Instagram hoes and crying all season long with those 'woe is me' tweets.. the same **** he's doing now with the Lakers. Trez was Klutch and leaking locker room info to the media. And I liked dude too even though Doc should've had him on the bench against Jokic. I'm pro Clippers not pro to any player like you guys are. Call it fair and square. Love SGA and it sucked that we traded dude. But ya'll can't keep sucking him off when our star player, the one who gets all the passes, is the one who shipped him out of town. Come on now

[RingColluder]

They're gone thanks to Kawhi now what??? Gallo is sh*t this year, do ya'll even watch games or do you skim through them? This might even be the same person as MTV. Trez was Klutch Sports and against the team. You still on that **** too?

SGA is fantastic. Gallo would be in the veteran Batum type role doing lesser things. Trez WANTED to stay on the Clippers and was offended we didn't even offer him a contract but because PG was upset at him the didn't keep him. Read The Athletic articles. Read other Clipper sources other than just what you think happened. Trez helped EVERYONe on the 2nd team including Lou Williams and most likely Batum and others with his offensive game. Just bc he is a KLUTCH person he was, "against the team"? ???? Do you work for Paul George?????? I don't know anyone else online who somehow thinks he had a good game today, Jesus Christ.


So anyone who doesn't think PG is a superstar player totally helping this team is MTV? Stop being delusional about this team. Paul George is fundamentally not right for this team. Look at what he did w Westbrook and Carmelo! Just not a winning player.

Gallo was trash.. even trash in the "gritty" series against Golden State. And he's washed up in Atlanta. Cut the crap. I used to follow Trez on Twitter until he jumped ship. May his grandma RIP but he was gettin into sh*t with Instagram hoes and crying all season long with those 'woe is me' tweets.. the same **** he's doing now with the Lakers. Trez was Klutch and leaking locker room info to the media. And I liked dude too even though Doc should've had him on the bench against Jokic. I'm pro Clippers not pro to any player like you guys are. Call it fair and square. Love SGA and it sucked that we traded dude. But ya'll can't keep sucking him off when our star player, the one who gets all the passes, is the one who shipped him out of town. Come on now

I don't care how woe is me Trez is, he made this team better and that's all that matters, chemistry be damned. And I'm pro Clippers too, but I'm not going to be pro PG just for the sake of being "Pro Clippers" when he's ruining the team. I'll live with Reggie, Lou, etc bc their roles and cap aren't as much.

And yes, Kawhi at this moment in time is paid to play basketball not GM. He made a bad mistake trading for PG, but there's nothing we can do about it now other than loco at how he plays the game of basketball which he is doing at the best of his abilities given the teammates around him.

[RingColluder]

Here's the thing--If you introduce too many variables at once it's no longer a scientific experiment, it's just throwing spaghetti against the wall. Nobody learns anything.

In science, if you do an experiment, the next thing you do is repeat the experiment with no other variables, to see if you get the same results. The key experiment is Marcus playing with the first unit and to a lesser degree Batum on the second.

To his credit, Marcus stayed aggressive [7 rebs] and kept firing, although 5-14 and 1-9 from distance is NOT gonna get it done. But scapegoating is bullsh*it. Keep firing, Marcus. We gotta get you going.

And that's why giving Kennard any of Marcus' burn would be the wrong move tonight. Even if Kennard comes in and shoots like a god and we even win the game [unlikely even if he does--we lost by 16] we have learned nothing and built nothing. Kennard is still nowhere near joining the rotation and Marcus still sucks.

Ty knew what he was doing. At age 31 with a month left before the playoffs, all the Clippers can do now is throw Marcus into the deep end of the pool and see if he sinks or swims. He swam on Sunday, sank tonight. It's a process.

You're thinking too deep on it. If Morris, Lou, Reggie, Batum, etc aren't making shots then give the $60 million dollar guy some minutes. F*ck it, its just one regular season game right

Always trying to understand their thinking. Building up Marcus is #1 right now. Letting him try and fail and learn from it is better than getting a lucky night out of Kennard. Kennard is not going to become a difference-maker between now and the playoffs. If Marcus doesn't, we're probably screwed.

Batum had about 6 of 7 clunkers before getting swapped out with Morris. At least give him till mid April to understand his role in the starters.

The main difference this game from last is Morris came out aggressive last game, and this game for the first 2 quarter's was looking to pass. Not sure if it was a coaching thing or not, but that's not his game.

[Clemenza]

Here's the thing--If you introduce too many variables at once it's no longer a scientific experiment, it's just throwing spaghetti against the wall. Nobody learns anything.

In science, if you do an experiment, the next thing you do is repeat the experiment with no other variables, to see if you get the same results. The key experiment is Marcus playing with the first unit and to a lesser degree Batum on the second.

To his credit, Marcus stayed aggressive [7 rebs] and kept firing, although 5-14 and 1-9 from distance is NOT gonna get it done. But scapegoating is bullsh*it. Keep firing, Marcus. We gotta get you going.

And that's why giving Kennard any of Marcus' burn would be the wrong move tonight. Even if Kennard comes in and shoots like a god and we even win the game [unlikely even if he does--we lost by 16] we have learned nothing and built nothing. Kennard is still nowhere near joining the rotation and Marcus still sucks.

Ty knew what he was doing. At age 31 with a month left before the playoffs, all the Clippers can do now is throw Marcus into the deep end of the pool and see if he sinks or swims. He swam on Sunday, sank tonight. It's a process.

You're thinking too deep on it. If Morris, Lou, Reggie, Batum, etc aren't making shots then give the $60 million dollar guy some minutes. F*ck it, its just one regular season game right

Always trying to understand their thinking. Building up Marcus is #1 right now. Letting him try and fail and learn from it is better than getting a lucky night out of Kennard. Kennard is not going to become a difference-maker between now and the playoffs. If Marcus doesn't, we're probably screwed.

Kennard is going to sub in for Lou or Reggie not Morris. If Lou or Reggie are **** and Pat Bev is out give Kennard some minutes. Who cares at this point. What we lose the game? We're already losing games.

[RingColluder]

You're thinking too deep on it. If Morris, Lou, Reggie, Batum, etc aren't making shots then give the $60 million dollar guy some minutes. F*ck it, its just one regular season game right

Always trying to understand their thinking. Building up Marcus is #1 right now. Letting him try and fail and learn from it is better than getting a lucky night out of Kennard. Kennard is not going to become a difference-maker between now and the playoffs. If Marcus doesn't, we're probably screwed.

Kennard is going to sub in for Lou or Reggie not Morris. If Lou or Reggie are **** and Pat Bev is out give Kennard some minutes. Who cares at this point. What we lose the game? We're already losing games.

If Lue is deciding to put in Coffee over Kennard at this point, Luke must really be **** the bed in practice. Worst decision of FA last year by far. Thank you Mr. Frank!

[esqtvd]

And none of that was for the Clippers. Ya'll gonna give him a pass and he might f*ck around and bolt after this year is up while giving us nothing.. then what? F*ck the passes given. Deliver some sh*t for the B squad in LA!! I'm not coming until another star is coming with me so get it done, no leadership, load management all last season, no big games where he carries the team. Love that Kawhi is on the team but come on now. How long is the admiration going to last for the sh*t that he did with San Antonio and Toronto? Go ahead and rip PG when he's trash like the first Dallas game, I'll rip him too. But if you ripping him for this game and everybody else gets a pass then ya'll on some other weirdo agenda sh*t. But carry on

Nice try at dialogue but don't even, bro.

Fact is, Kawhi is a strange cat and can't be plugged into any equation. He's not a LeBron, an aircraft carrier where you just put some fighters and bombers on his deck and cruise into battle.

With Kawhi, you throw him in with a bunch of other guys and hope to catch lightning in a bottle. An aging Duncan and Parker or Lowry and a bunch of kids. Kawhi will be the first to tell you he doesn't know how he does what he does. Go out there and hump. I got no advice for you and no secrets and no rah-rah. Play hard and play smart. Pick your spots because NOBODY can play 100% 100% of the time. That's it and that's all.

[TheNewEra]

Ty Lue like screw it im not playing any of you three (Lou/Luke/Reggie)

Hopefully, finally, dreadfully The FO sees the necessity of a playmaker right? Right?

I'm sick of this easy layuops- open threes other teams playmakers generates for their Klebers, Richardson, Hardaway's while our wing rotations have to beat their man all game to create some isos or open threes that opponents generally let you take

I’m just hoping Kennard doesn’t go back to bad habits when he does play because he’s scared of getting benched. This has been poor development by Lue and the front office if we are being honest. Lou should of been gone as soon as Luke came on board but yet again in clippers fashion we bring in another young player that fits poorly with the 6th man.

Last game he played he moved around like he wanted to play and be impactful.

[TheNewEra]

Always trying to understand their thinking. Building up Marcus is #1 right now. Letting him try and fail and learn from it is better than getting a lucky night out of Kennard. Kennard is not going to become a difference-maker between now and the playoffs. If Marcus doesn't, we're probably screwed.

Kennard is going to sub in for Lou or Reggie not Morris. If Lou or Reggie are **** and Pat Bev is out give Kennard some minutes. Who cares at this point. What we lose the game? We're already losing games.

If Lue is deciding to put in Coffee over Kennard at this point, Luke must really be **** the bed in practice. Worst decision of FA last year by far. Thank you Mr. Frank!

Coffey coming in is more likely to steal Manns minutes

[Clemenza]

SGA is fantastic. Gallo would be in the veteran Batum type role doing lesser things. Trez WANTED to stay on the Clippers and was offended we didn't even offer him a contract but because PG was upset at him the didn't keep him. Read The Athletic articles. Read other Clipper sources other than just what you think happened. Trez helped EVERYONe on the 2nd team including Lou Williams and most likely Batum and others with his offensive game. Just bc he is a KLUTCH person he was, "against the team"? ???? Do you work for Paul George?????? I don't know anyone else online who somehow thinks he had a good game today, Jesus Christ.


So anyone who doesn't think PG is a superstar player totally helping this team is MTV? Stop being delusional about this team. Paul George is fundamentally not right for this team. Look at what he did w Westbrook and Carmelo! Just not a winning player.

Gallo was trash.. even trash in the "gritty" series against Golden State. And he's washed up in Atlanta. Cut the crap. I used to follow Trez on Twitter until he jumped ship. May his grandma RIP but he was gettin into sh*t with Instagram hoes and crying all season long with those 'woe is me' tweets.. the same **** he's doing now with the Lakers. Trez was Klutch and leaking locker room info to the media. And I liked dude too even though Doc should've had him on the bench against Jokic. I'm pro Clippers not pro to any player like you guys are. Call it fair and square. Love SGA and it sucked that we traded dude. But ya'll can't keep sucking him off when our star player, the one who gets all the passes, is the one who shipped him out of town. Come on now

I don't care how woe is me Trez is, he made this team better and that's all that matters, chemistry be damned. And I'm pro Clippers too, but I'm not going to be pro PG just for the sake of being "Pro Clippers" when he's ruining the team. I'll live with Reggie, Lou, etc bc their roles and cap aren't as much.

And yes, Kawhi at this moment in time is paid to play basketball not GM. He made a bad mistake trading for PG, but there's nothing we can do about it now other than loco at how he plays the game of basketball which he is doing at the best of his abilities given the teammates around him.

If this is the case then why the "I wish we still had SGA and Gallo" posts nonstop? I ripped PG in the bubble, the shot against the backboard, his confessions and constant yapping to the media, his cold streaks, etc. But I'm not going to say he sucked tonight just to keep a narrative going. I'm trying to call a fair one and keep it straight down the middle as far as the team goes. I'll rip Kawhi if something needs to be said even though that seems to be a no no for most of you. I love that he's here and I'm hoping we get at least a Finals appearance but its whatever with me. If he were to bounce then so be it. I'm still a fan of the team no matter what. Plus ya'll don't really want to get deep and realize that Michael Porter Jr should've been on this team and OKC would've had to pick between SGA or MPJ or take both and we keep our picks. And we still have our first rounder in this upcoming draft. Ya'll should leave that PG/SGA trade alone and move forward

[TheNewEra]

Don’t see how Trez is would help the current issues beside just being healthy

[Clemenza]

And none of that was for the Clippers. Ya'll gonna give him a pass and he might f*ck around and bolt after this year is up while giving us nothing.. then what? F*ck the passes given. Deliver some sh*t for the B squad in LA!! I'm not coming until another star is coming with me so get it done, no leadership, load management all last season, no big games where he carries the team. Love that Kawhi is on the team but come on now. How long is the admiration going to last for the sh*t that he did with San Antonio and Toronto? Go ahead and rip PG when he's trash like the first Dallas game, I'll rip him too. But if you ripping him for this game and everybody else gets a pass then ya'll on some other weirdo agenda sh*t. But carry on

Nice try at dialogue but don't even, bro.

Fact is, Kawhi is a strange cat and can't be plugged into any equation. He's not a LeBron, an aircraft carrier where you just put some fighters and bombers on his deck and cruise into battle.

With Kawhi, you throw him in with a bunch of other guys and hope to catch lightning in a bottle. An aging Duncan and Parker or Lowry and a bunch of kids. Kawhi will be the first to tell you he doesn't know how he does what he does. Go out there and hump. I got no advice for you and no secrets and no rah-rah. Play hard and play smart. Pick your spots because NOBODY can play 100% 100% of the time. That's it and that's all.

I feel that but there's too many agendas on here and too many passes given. I'm more of a "trust the process" guy but we pulled the Lakers/Brooklyn move and went all in with star power and now we're trying to figure it out. Everybody is on eggshells with Kawhi but none of his accomplishments is Clipper related. And that aging Parker/Duncan and Lowery was everything for him. They played the leadership foundational roles and Kawhi got to be himself and shine. We need a leader so Kawhi, PG, and company can do their thing

[Captain Ballmer]

Ty Lue like screw it im not playing any of you three (Lou/Luke/Reggie)

Hopefully, finally, dreadfully The FO sees the necessity of a playmaker right? Right?

I'm sick of this easy layuops- open threes other teams playmakers generates for their Klebers, Richardson, Hardaway's while our wing rotations have to beat their man all game to create some isos or open threes that opponents generally let you take

I’m just hoping Kennard doesn’t go back to bad habits when he does play because he’s scared of getting benched. This has been poor development by Lue and the front office if we are being honest. Lou should of been gone as soon as Luke came on board but yet again in clippers fashion we bring in another young player that fits poorly with the 6th man.

Last game he played he moved around like he wanted to play and be impactful.

Agree on Kennard. A playmaker makes everyone around them better, especially guys like Kennard. Lack of consistent PnR option is unacceptable in this NBA. Instead of focusing the real problem, Here our board we hitting our star players.

Either the FO insanely overtrusts the Lou&PG&Kawhi trio to overtake good defenses consistently, or their Playmaker targets are unreachable with what they present for trade. Really hoping the FO smart enough to adress the issue somehow. Rubio