2018 NBA Draft Talk

[TucsonClip]

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Ill trade Robinson for him right now.

[donemilio21]

Spurs are drafting Lonnie Walker. Must be nice to root for an actually smart franchise.

Pop picks Lonnie.

[esqtvd]

You know what, I'm rooting for Jerome Robinson to turn into a scoring stud

Looks solid all around.



Jay Bilas called him maybe "the most complete offensive player in the draft.” Clips can't really afford to whiff in this draft with a high-risk/high-ceiling type like Porter or Zhaire. And Robinson seems to have been one of the best shooters available. I'm thinking Eric Gordon.

We used to joke about Elgin always drafting himself, quick, lanky forwards. Looks like The Logo just did the same.

[esqtvd]

Looks like the Clippers are keeping 'em. The Men. The Hats.

[mttwlsn16]

Spurs are drafting Lonnie Walker. Must be nice to root for an actually smart franchise.

Please, go root for them.

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[nickhx2]

lmao

i mean hey it coulda been worse. we could be the kings giving up doncic. or the hawks trading him away LOL

[MartinToVaught]

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Maybe they want Robinson? I can dream, right?

[clip set]

At the end of the day, most of these mid first round picks are going to be mediocre to bad players. I don't really know anything about Robinson and wouldn't have taken him, but if even only Shai pans out as a good player it's a win for the draft. I couldn't have handled taking Porter as another guy with expectations of missing 60 games every year. I probably would've taken a flier on one of the younger or bigger wings, but I'm willing to see what Robinson has to offer and assume West and co scouted him well against the other prospects.

[donemilio21]

Has Milos picked up his option yet?

[esqtvd]

Only a surprise to those who place great faith in mock drafts done by people who don't know enough about basketball to have an actual job in it. And Robinson didn't come out of nowhere even if he came as a surprise to draftniks on this board.


https://hoopshype.com/2018/06/20/nba-mock-draft-consensus-top-prospects-latest-update-rumors/

But most notable is that in the first version of this aggregate model, Boston College’s Jerome Robinson was projected as a second-round pick. He has climbed in each update, however, and now ranks No. 18 overall among all prospects. He averaged 20.7 points, 3.3 assists and 2.3 three-pointers per game last season.

According to The Athletic’s Sam Vecenie, he has had “terrific interviews” along with impressive team workouts, and his intelligence has recently helped him elevate his draft stock. He will be one of the prospects in the green room at Barclay’s Center on draft night.

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And of course Woj had him at 13 in his mock draft this morning.

[TucsonClip]

He wasnt a surprise to anyone who was following along. He was a big surprise to everyone as the process went along because of his meteoric rise. I havent watched a whole lot of him. But if hes not a lead ball handler or big time scorer, he isnt providing anything else. I hope he pans out, and definitely am going to watch more on him.

[esqtvd]

He wasnt a surprise to anyone who was following along. He was a big surprise to everyone as the process went along because of his meteoric rise. I havent watched a whole lot of him. But if hes not a lead ball handler or big time scorer, he isnt providing anything else. I hope he pans out, and definitely am going to watch more on him.

A 20-point scorer in a top conference, with decent size, a high IQ, and sterling character. No major dings or red flags. A lot of these other guys have big question marks. Outsiders cannot say just how the actual NBA people viewed him. My point is that the draftniks largely repeat the same stuff to each other in their bubble and their mock drafts largely influence each other. Think of a flock of birds on the wing, which behaves as a single entity.

From what I gather, Robinson's a more solid bet than most, even if he doesn't have the eye-popping combine measurables that make draftniks drool. And like all SGs, it's all up to how he develops as a shooter. Steph Curry wasn't STEPH CURRY until his 4th year.

[Ranma]

Dzanan Musa is such a Prokhorov pick for his Nets. Robert Williams is a great pick for the Celtics late in the first round as he provides the athleticism to give them another dimension on defense and even offense; he might allow for Al Horford to move to power forward, which would be invaluable for Boston. Omari Spellman is a quality pick for the Hawks as the last selection in the first-round, but he's not someone I'm fretting over in losing after trading that pick for Danilo Gallinari.

Frenchman Elie Okobo is a nice pick as a versatile jack-of-all-trades type of player similar to Boris Diaw for the Suns. I'm hearing France has some premium talent better than Okobo in the pipeline coming over the next few years. Jevon Carter and Jalen Brunson are quality back-to-back gritty PGs taken in Round 2. Mitchell Robinson is a worthy high-risk, high-reward project for the Knicks, but I guess his agent messed up with their play of a fake promise in the first round.

While I didn't like Khyri Thomas for us in the lottery as an overager, he's practically a steal as a player who provides defense and 3-point shooting along with leadership intangibles and he still hasn't been selected as of yet. Unlike Denzel Valentine in the 2016 NBA Draft, Thomas has the athleticism to contribute right away for an NBA team without injury concerns. He's arguably better than the Clippers' overager in Jerome Robinson, the 13th overall pick. He was taken by the Sixers 38th overall and subsequently sent to Detroit.

Supreme athlete Hamidou Diallo also still hasn't been selected yet with the second round underway.

[statsman42]

Accidental double post

[statsman42]

Meanwhile, the Mavs are conducting a clinic in value drafting.

Walked in with the #5 and #33, walked out with the #2 overall talent and an outstanding glue guy who fits their system and philosophy perfectly (think JJ Barea).

As a Dallas resident, it's getting increasingly difficult not to like this team.

[TucsonClip]

Lakers drafting ALL shooting..... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Ranma]

From Kawhi and Doncic to Jerome freaking Robinson. I'm just speechless at the ineptitude of this franchise. I guess this team is just never going to address the wing situation.

I totally agree with you about the end results being deflating. We were in play for Doncic, Kawhi (which would have likely led to LeBron), and any number of scenarios with talented players left on the board and we came away with just Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) and Jerome Robinson. I'm sorry but that is disappointing no matter how you slice it.

I have nothing against SGA as I think he's a safe pick given his size, versatility, character, and work ethic. Robinson, on the other hand, is practically indefensible at this point. We could have traded down for him even if the Bucks were supposedly interested in him 4 picks later at 17th overall, but was he really someone worth fretting over if we actually lost out on him?

I'm not against going after guards because that's were the quality was from a BPA standpoint. If we're going to make an impact, getting Kawhi and LeBron in the frontcourt was always the big play worth taking a shot at. Waiting to overpay the likes of Klay Thompson in free agency is not really appealing from a value perspective.

I have my doubts on Michael Porter, Jr. but would have understood taking a swing with him, but I'm not really fretting over losing him, to be honest. As I'm in the minority, Zhaire Smith was the one I think who's going to come back to haunt us. Heck, we could have conceivably made a play for Mikal Bridges since the Sixers traded them for each other even if we didn't hand a future first-rounder in such a transaction. Smith was the better prospect IMO, anyway.

Lonnie Walker IV was also another option. I wasn't entirely sold on him either because I had concerns over his injury even prior to the reports and his scripted interview answers were not all that impressive to me. Still, he has promise and he was worthy enough for the Spurs.

Heck, I'd argue that we'd be better off going with my 2 favorite prospects that were available when we picked: Zhaire Smith and Anfernee Simons. Simons would have been a reach in the lottery but would he be more so than Robinson? Robinson may help immediately but Simons should be the better player over the course of their respective NBA careers.

What's further frustrating is that I don't see either Gilgeous-Alexander or Robinson appealing to the Spurs if we're still trying to trade for Kawhi Leonard. San Antonio already has Dejounte Murray so there's less of a need for SGA while Robinson doesn't seem to fit the Spurs' mold.

One note about Luka Doncic. While I still think DeAndre Ayton should be the 1st overall pick, I like Luka more. He's the type of player I've wanted in the Magic/Bird mold where he's clutch, an instinctive playmaker who makes teammates better, and a competitor who loves the game. Similar to me wanting to trade down in the 1998 NBA Draft, I liked Vince Carter more than Michael Olowokandi but wasn't going to advocate selecting VC 1st overall that year given the value proposition available with trading down as an option.

The con with Doncic is that he's not athletic for the NBA and likes to experience the nightlife as a young teenager, but the pro side is that he has baby fat that could be chiseled off with a professional trainer working with him and his love for the game as well as competitiveness practically assure that he'll work to make himself the best player he can be.

[nickhx2]

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get him, mods

[Ranma]

I'm not buying the narrative that Jerry likes him. I think this is the Clippers putting Jerry's name on a Doc/Frank pick to try to make it more palatable for the fans.

Until I hear more in the aftermath of today's disaster, I don't buy that this isn't a Jerry West pick because he's been known to pull off these out-of-left-field selections before. Look, I'm a big believer in the Logo running things and he's going to be more right than wrong in the long run, but he's not perfect.

I attribute the fact that word leaked out early that West really liked Robinson a lot to Doc's cronies and Doc himself having loose lips since West is usually good about keeping things close to the vest. This pick reminds me of Nick Van Exel, another one of West's all-offense, no-defense picks in the past. Robinson is being described as a poor man's Klay Thompson and rich man's Kevin Martin. The funny thing is that Thompson and Martin were almost traded for each other when West voiced his strong objection to dealing Klay away (along with David Lee and a first round pick) for Kevin Love (and Martin).

I hope to eat crow with the Robinson selection eventually proving to be another example of West's genius instead of an act of senility, but for now, we have to live with the fact that, by all accounts, this has the Logo's stamp of approval on it.

Can you see Doc and Ballmer willingly pass on Michael Porter, Jr. unless they were convinced otherwise by West? Would Lawrence Frank have enough pull to do this even though he is technically the GM as Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations?

[thanumba2clippersfan]

Tony Carr drafted at #51 to the Pelicans. First Penn State player drafted since 1999. He has some work to do defensively, hope that he can find a spot in the league.