Clipper 2015 Offseason

Wammy Giveaway · Post #121 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:30 pm

The one edge both Gerald Green and Brandon Bass have is that they are Doc guys. Bass played for Doc's Big 3 Celtics in 2011. Green was drafted by Doc in 2005, and was one of five players given up in the 2007 farm trade to acquire superstar Kevin Garnett to form the Allen-Pierce-Garnett Big 3. Doc always goes after guys who've played for him before.

The only way Bass and Green are avoided is by Steve Ballmer hiring a full time general manager or general adviser to Doc Rivers. His penchant for players he loves blinds him into making bad moves. The trade for his son was the epitome of his tenure as GM.

LACtdom · Post #122 » by **LACtdom** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:35 pm

I don't see salary cap as our biggest issue, it's more trying to give a team a reason to actually go through with these trades.

Post #123 » by **mkwest** » Fri May 22, 2015 2:57 am

JayClips92 wrote:Are sign and trades still an option with the new CBA? I love DJ but I feel like if we could get a big that we could throw the ball to for some scoring may help us. His stocks pretty high now - 1st team all-defense and 3rd team all-nba...

Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade1, 2. A team above the apron can receive a player in a sign-and-trade if the trade reduces the team's payroll and the team finishes the trade below the apron.
Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25) that season.1

1 These teams are free to send players to other teams in sign-and-trade transactions, or to receive players in sign-and-trade transactions who weren't signed-and-traded themselves. Also, the restriction applies only to the sign-and-trade transaction itself -- teams are free to acquire players who had been signed-and-traded in earlier transactions.

Larry Coon, CBAFAQ

mj_shoefanatic · Post #124 » by **mj_shoefanatic** » Fri May 22, 2015 9:31 pm

If DJ walks we should pursue Gerald Green, Ivan Johnson and bring Aminu back. Hopefully Hudson returns as our backup pg.

mttwlsn16 · Post #125 » by **mttwlsn16** » Sat May 23, 2015 1:04 am

mj_shoefanatic wrote:If DJ walks we should pursue Gerald Green, Ivan Johnson and bring Aminu back. Hopefully Hudson returns as our backup pg.

I assume Johnson makes the minimum, or close to it. But could we really afford Green AND Aminu? DJ leaving doesn't magically make a ton of money available.

nickhx2 · Post #126 » by **nickhx2** » Sat May 23, 2015 2:23 pm

only way we could make that happen is if we sign aminu to MMLE and green to veteran's minimum.

but aminu played well enough this postseason that he can reasonably ask for the MLE or even higher. he is turning into the player that he was originally drafted to be and that's worth a lot.

LACtdom · Post #127 » by **LACtdom** » Sun May 24, 2015 7:17 am

With the rumours saying Scott Skiles getting the ORL job and his past dislike of the soon-to-be-FA Tobias Harris, I would love for us to pursue him if we get the chance.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #128 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Wed May 27, 2015 9:58 pm

Just saw this on ESPN- sign and trade DJ for Chandler and Felton. Not a bad trade if DJ wants to leave

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maverick ... ade-places

nickhx2 · Post #129 » by **nickhx2** » Wed May 27, 2015 10:32 pm

ya i brought it up on some post weeks ago before we got kicked out of the playoffs but i think that's the route we'd want to go if dj decided to leave.

it would even give us better flexibility in the 89M cap boom year. i wouldn't want dj to leave but this is by far the next best thing for us if he does.

Post #130 » by **og15** » Wed May 27, 2015 11:02 pm

mj_shoefanatic wrote:If DJ walks we should pursue Gerald Green, Ivan Johnson and bring Aminu back. Hopefully Hudson returns as our backup pg.

Ivan Johnson doesn't really fit into the mix here.

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Just saw this on ESPN- sign and trade DJ for Chandler and Felton. Not a bad trade if DJ wants to leave

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maverick ... ade-places

That would be an acceptable other option if Chandler makes about what DJ is making now. Also wouldn't want his contract length to be too long. Still would need the team to use the rest of their assets well.

nickhx2 · Post #131 » by **nickhx2** » Wed May 27, 2015 11:09 pm

i think the way it would need to work is a S/T for two years, unless chandler's deal is really cheap annually.

but yeah i agree it can't be too expensive, at least beyond the second year. that way we have the option of spending max or near-max money three years from now.

i don't want him to leave but it might actually open the door to us signing a third league megastar (durant/lebron) even if it is unlikely.

what i could also see happening is going after a guy like horford + extras or two lower-priced guys like noah/batum/extras which would help us fill quite a few holes.

Post #132 » by **og15** » Thu May 28, 2015 12:36 am

Sign and trade deals have to be a 3 year minimum contract. Now, you can add some non-guaranteed clause in there, but it still has to be three years minimum.

The more I think about it, the more I would like Alexis Ajinca on this team as a backup. The guy has improved so much, has a great touch, and with people always asking for another big with offense, Ajinca would be the Clippers best offensive big man after Blake if he was on this team. He's obviously still a fouling machine and of course you still don't like his turnover rate, but you can live with it.

nickhx2 · Post #133 » by **nickhx2** » Thu May 28, 2015 1:14 am

oh interesting. then yeah that makes a lot of sense to make the 3rd year non-guaranteed (or partially too?).

TucsonClip · Post #134 » by **TucsonClip** » Thu May 28, 2015 8:31 pm

Unless Jordan demands a trade there, which Doc will accept, we better ask for that 21st pick.

nickhx2 · Post #135 » by **nickhx2** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 4:32 am

well, looks like AK's retiring. hard to know if he had any game left but he was someone i was hoping could at least do better than hedo.

nickhx2 · Post #136 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 12:10 am

hey, tuscon. saw your article on my google news feed today. pretty cool!

TucsonClip · Post #137 » by **TucsonClip** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 6:37 pm

Google knows whats good. Thanks!

kylem4711 · Post #138 » by **kylem4711** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 8:50 pm

whats the article?

mttwlsn16 · Post #139 » by **mttwlsn16** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:37 pm

I too, would like to know what the article is.

nickhx2 · Post #140 » by **nickhx2** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:01 pm

i can't find it anymore but i'm sure tuscon will get it to you guys