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Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET

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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#121 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 23, 2020 12:59 am

Yogatti wrote:Evey game is like this. Trezz playing the entire 4th quarter while Zubac gets no minutes and we end up losing to **** ass teams like the kings and hawks. Doc doesn't coach to win games, he has an agenda and only plays favorites. He would rather lose with trezz in the closing line-up then win games with Zubac.

How exactly are the clippers going to win a title when the head coach is doing ridiculous stuff like this

Doc's more worried about who's going to his old team's jersey retirement ceremony than the fact that his current team is a mess.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#122 » by Yogatti » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:08 am

It's amazing how doc is gifted with such a talented roster and yet here we are losing to bottom teams in the league. doc, lou and trezz are cancerous to this team and they all need to be removed
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#123 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:20 am

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We scored 2 points in the last 6:02 so the decision was to not play the player who gave you a higher chance for second chance points ?



instead of an actual [18.8 ppg] scorer
this is not logical

besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#124 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:24 am

esqtvd wrote:besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated

Why do you keep ignoring Lou's 8 turnovers and horrible defense while bashing Zubac for no reason? Lou was the second-biggest reason we lost this game, only behind Doc.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#125 » by TheNewEra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:42 am

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We scored 2 points in the last 6:02 so the decision was to not play the player who gave you a higher chance for second chance points ?



instead of an actual [18.8 ppg] scorer
this is not logical

besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated


We dug the largest hole in the first place. They made a run but momentum clearly was starting to fade. Not the sole issue but Doc needs to change up the units. Trez and Lou should of been resting some of those last 6 minutes
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#126 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:48 am

If Lou keeps falling asleep on screens and 3 point close outs, Doc should sit his ass on the bench- especially once Beverley is back
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#127 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:54 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
esqtvd wrote:besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated

Why do you keep ignoring Lou's 8 turnovers and horrible defense while bashing Zubac for no reason? Lou was the second-biggest reason we lost this game, only behind Doc.



STOP TWISTING MY WORDS

what I said was that the problem was not at center
Planet Zubac's obsession with the 5 ignores the actual game that has 10 players in it

as for Lou and the 8 TOs if you want to argue that's what lost the game at least that actually has something to do with the game

but we'd also have been dead without his 24 points
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#128 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:05 am

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We scored 2 points in the last 6:02 so the decision was to not play the player who gave you a higher chance for second chance points ?



instead of an actual [18.8 ppg] scorer
this is not logical

besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated


We dug the largest hole in the first place. They made a run but momentum clearly was starting to fade. Not the sole issue but Doc needs to change up the units. Trez and Lou should of been resting some of those last 6 minutes



well we do that every game and we win almost all the time
every once in awhile we lose and all of a sudden it's a big issue
that same unit brought us back from down 12 to take the lead

then we missed a couple shots and threw the ball away
there's nothing here to scapegoat Lou and Trezz with
Sham and Morris had pretty lousy games
and so did the rest--no magic wands on the bench to come in and save us
everybody lost this



4:55 Landry Shamet misses 24-foot three point jumper 101 - 101
4:51 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 101 - 101
4:37 De'Aaron Fox lost ball turnover (Montrezl Harrell steals) 101 - 101
4:33 Kawhi Leonard out of bounds bad pass turnover 101 - 101
4:33 Lou Williams enters the game for Reggie Jackson 101 - 101
4:33 Marcus Morris Sr. enters the game for JaMychal Green 101 - 101
4:18 Harrison Barnes misses 13-foot pullup jump shot 101 - 101
4:15 Harry Giles III offensive rebound 101 - 101
4:14 Harry Giles III makes two point shot 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. bad pass (Harrison Barnes steals) 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. personal foul 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore misses free throw 1 of 2 103 - 101
3:58 Kings offensive team rebound 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore makes free throw 2 of 2 104 - 101
3:39 Lou Williams misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 104 - 101
3:35 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:14 Bogdan Bogdanovic misses 17-foot jumper 104 - 101
3:13 Marcus Morris Sr. defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:13 Clippers Full timeout 104 - 101
3:13 Kings Full timeout 104 - 101
2:58 Landry Shamet misses 27-foot three point jumper 104 - 101
2:53 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 104 - 101
2:33 Bogdan Bogdanovic makes 28-foot three point jumper (Harrison Barnes assists) 107 - 101
2:19 Lou Williams misses driving floating jump shot 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell offensive rebound 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell misses tip shot 107 - 101
2:14 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:57 Kent Bazemore misses layup 107 - 101
1:55 Kawhi Leonard defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:44 Landry Shamet misses 23-foot three point jumper 107 - 101
1:42 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:30 De'Aaron Fox out of bounds lost ball turnover 107 - 101
1:20 Harry Giles III blocks Kawhi Leonard 's 6-foot driving layup 107 - 101
1:18 Bogdan Bogdanovic defensive rebound 107 - 101
58.1 Harry Giles III makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Bogdan Bogdanovic assists) 109 - 101
58.1 Clippers Full timeout 109 - 101
57.5 Kawhi Leonard makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Marcus Morris Sr. assists) 109 - 103
39.9 De'Aaron Fox makes two point shot 111 - 103
39.9 Clippers Full timeout 111 - 103
35.1 Lou Williams misses 29-foot three point jumper 111 - 103
32.9 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 111 - 103
30.7 Kawhi Leonard personal foul 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox misses free throw 1 of 2 111 - 103
30.7 Kings offensive team rebound 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox makes free throw 2 of 2 112 - 103
17.6 Marcus Morris Sr. misses 27-foot three point jumper 112 - 103
15.1 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 112 - 103
0.0 End of the 4th Quarter 112 - 103
0.0 End of Game 112 - 103
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#129 » by TheNewEra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:46 am

esqtvd wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

instead of an actual [18.8 ppg] scorer
this is not logical

besides Kawhi, the only Clippers in double figures were Trezz and Lou
I can't believe what I'm reading
we'd have been dead without them

the wrong people are being scapegoated


We dug the largest hole in the first place. They made a run but momentum clearly was starting to fade. Not the sole issue but Doc needs to change up the units. Trez and Lou should of been resting some of those last 6 minutes



well we do that every game and we win almost all the time
every once in awhile we lose and all of a sudden it's a big issue
that same unit brought us back from down 12 to take the lead

then we missed a couple shots and threw the ball away
there's nothing here to scapegoat Lou and Trezz with
Sham and Morris had pretty lousy games
and so did the rest--no magic wands on the bench to come in and save us
everybody lost this



4:55 Landry Shamet misses 24-foot three point jumper 101 - 101
4:51 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 101 - 101
4:37 De'Aaron Fox lost ball turnover (Montrezl Harrell steals) 101 - 101
4:33 Kawhi Leonard out of bounds bad pass turnover 101 - 101
4:33 Lou Williams enters the game for Reggie Jackson 101 - 101
4:33 Marcus Morris Sr. enters the game for JaMychal Green 101 - 101
4:18 Harrison Barnes misses 13-foot pullup jump shot 101 - 101
4:15 Harry Giles III offensive rebound 101 - 101
4:14 Harry Giles III makes two point shot 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. bad pass (Harrison Barnes steals) 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. personal foul 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore misses free throw 1 of 2 103 - 101
3:58 Kings offensive team rebound 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore makes free throw 2 of 2 104 - 101
3:39 Lou Williams misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 104 - 101
3:35 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:14 Bogdan Bogdanovic misses 17-foot jumper 104 - 101
3:13 Marcus Morris Sr. defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:13 Clippers Full timeout 104 - 101
3:13 Kings Full timeout 104 - 101
2:58 Landry Shamet misses 27-foot three point jumper 104 - 101
2:53 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 104 - 101
2:33 Bogdan Bogdanovic makes 28-foot three point jumper (Harrison Barnes assists) 107 - 101
2:19 Lou Williams misses driving floating jump shot 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell offensive rebound 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell misses tip shot 107 - 101
2:14 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:57 Kent Bazemore misses layup 107 - 101
1:55 Kawhi Leonard defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:44 Landry Shamet misses 23-foot three point jumper 107 - 101
1:42 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:30 De'Aaron Fox out of bounds lost ball turnover 107 - 101
1:20 Harry Giles III blocks Kawhi Leonard 's 6-foot driving layup 107 - 101
1:18 Bogdan Bogdanovic defensive rebound 107 - 101
58.1 Harry Giles III makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Bogdan Bogdanovic assists) 109 - 101
58.1 Clippers Full timeout 109 - 101
57.5 Kawhi Leonard makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Marcus Morris Sr. assists) 109 - 103
39.9 De'Aaron Fox makes two point shot 111 - 103
39.9 Clippers Full timeout 111 - 103
35.1 Lou Williams misses 29-foot three point jumper 111 - 103
32.9 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 111 - 103
30.7 Kawhi Leonard personal foul 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox misses free throw 1 of 2 111 - 103
30.7 Kings offensive team rebound 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox makes free throw 2 of 2 112 - 103
17.6 Marcus Morris Sr. misses 27-foot three point jumper 112 - 103
15.1 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 112 - 103
0.0 End of the 4th Quarter 112 - 103
0.0 End of Game 112 - 103


Fatigue is always a factor there is a reason the Kings started to counter push the run when the brought their starters back by the end of the 9 minute mark

It worked before when we had other defenders who didn’t need the ball. Doc putting out 5 guys that need to ball to be productive with a big that’s human likely getting fatigue is risky. With Morris and Shamet in the game instead of Beverly/George/Harkless just makes a bunch of guys standing around waiting to do something. That’s not on Trez but when you can clearly see he is fatigued and we don’t have the defenders to cover everything goes to hell

Late game play execution has been terrible
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#130 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:54 am

TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
We dug the largest hole in the first place. They made a run but momentum clearly was starting to fade. Not the sole issue but Doc needs to change up the units. Trez and Lou should of been resting some of those last 6 minutes



well we do that every game and we win almost all the time
every once in awhile we lose and all of a sudden it's a big issue
that same unit brought us back from down 12 to take the lead

then we missed a couple shots and threw the ball away
there's nothing here to scapegoat Lou and Trezz with
Sham and Morris had pretty lousy games
and so did the rest--no magic wands on the bench to come in and save us
everybody lost this



4:55 Landry Shamet misses 24-foot three point jumper 101 - 101
4:51 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 101 - 101
4:37 De'Aaron Fox lost ball turnover (Montrezl Harrell steals) 101 - 101
4:33 Kawhi Leonard out of bounds bad pass turnover 101 - 101
4:33 Lou Williams enters the game for Reggie Jackson 101 - 101
4:33 Marcus Morris Sr. enters the game for JaMychal Green 101 - 101
4:18 Harrison Barnes misses 13-foot pullup jump shot 101 - 101
4:15 Harry Giles III offensive rebound 101 - 101
4:14 Harry Giles III makes two point shot 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. bad pass (Harrison Barnes steals) 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. personal foul 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore misses free throw 1 of 2 103 - 101
3:58 Kings offensive team rebound 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore makes free throw 2 of 2 104 - 101
3:39 Lou Williams misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 104 - 101
3:35 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:14 Bogdan Bogdanovic misses 17-foot jumper 104 - 101
3:13 Marcus Morris Sr. defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:13 Clippers Full timeout 104 - 101
3:13 Kings Full timeout 104 - 101
2:58 Landry Shamet misses 27-foot three point jumper 104 - 101
2:53 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 104 - 101
2:33 Bogdan Bogdanovic makes 28-foot three point jumper (Harrison Barnes assists) 107 - 101
2:19 Lou Williams misses driving floating jump shot 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell offensive rebound 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell misses tip shot 107 - 101
2:14 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:57 Kent Bazemore misses layup 107 - 101
1:55 Kawhi Leonard defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:44 Landry Shamet misses 23-foot three point jumper 107 - 101
1:42 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:30 De'Aaron Fox out of bounds lost ball turnover 107 - 101
1:20 Harry Giles III blocks Kawhi Leonard 's 6-foot driving layup 107 - 101
1:18 Bogdan Bogdanovic defensive rebound 107 - 101
58.1 Harry Giles III makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Bogdan Bogdanovic assists) 109 - 101
58.1 Clippers Full timeout 109 - 101
57.5 Kawhi Leonard makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Marcus Morris Sr. assists) 109 - 103
39.9 De'Aaron Fox makes two point shot 111 - 103
39.9 Clippers Full timeout 111 - 103
35.1 Lou Williams misses 29-foot three point jumper 111 - 103
32.9 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 111 - 103
30.7 Kawhi Leonard personal foul 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox misses free throw 1 of 2 111 - 103
30.7 Kings offensive team rebound 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox makes free throw 2 of 2 112 - 103
17.6 Marcus Morris Sr. misses 27-foot three point jumper 112 - 103
15.1 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 112 - 103
0.0 End of the 4th Quarter 112 - 103
0.0 End of Game 112 - 103


Fatigue is always a factor there is a reason the Kings started to counter push the run when the brought their starters back by the end of the 9 minute mark

It worked before when we had other defenders who didn’t need the ball. Doc putting out 5 guys that need to ball to be productive with a big that’s human likely getting fatigue is risky. With Morris and Shamet in the game instead of Beverly/George/Harkless just makes a bunch of guys standing around waiting to do something. That’s not on Trez but when you can clearly see he is fatigued and we don’t have the defenders to cover everything goes to hell

Late game play execution has been terrible



well, a fresh Zu in the beginning of the 3rd put us in the 10-point hole that Trezz turned around
the Trezz/Zu thing is an easy answer but speculation at best and no factual support

I don't think Trezz fatigue was a factor or that Zu would have made a difference either
Shamet and Morris being ineffective was what hurt

but who would you pull off the bench to replace them?
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#131 » by TheNewEra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:29 am

esqtvd wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

well we do that every game and we win almost all the time
every once in awhile we lose and all of a sudden it's a big issue
that same unit brought us back from down 12 to take the lead

then we missed a couple shots and threw the ball away
there's nothing here to scapegoat Lou and Trezz with
Sham and Morris had pretty lousy games
and so did the rest--no magic wands on the bench to come in and save us
everybody lost this



4:55 Landry Shamet misses 24-foot three point jumper 101 - 101
4:51 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 101 - 101
4:37 De'Aaron Fox lost ball turnover (Montrezl Harrell steals) 101 - 101
4:33 Kawhi Leonard out of bounds bad pass turnover 101 - 101
4:33 Lou Williams enters the game for Reggie Jackson 101 - 101
4:33 Marcus Morris Sr. enters the game for JaMychal Green 101 - 101
4:18 Harrison Barnes misses 13-foot pullup jump shot 101 - 101
4:15 Harry Giles III offensive rebound 101 - 101
4:14 Harry Giles III makes two point shot 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. bad pass (Harrison Barnes steals) 103 - 101
3:58 Marcus Morris Sr. personal foul 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore misses free throw 1 of 2 103 - 101
3:58 Kings offensive team rebound 103 - 101
3:58 Kent Bazemore makes free throw 2 of 2 104 - 101
3:39 Lou Williams misses 28-foot three point pullup jump shot 104 - 101
3:35 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:14 Bogdan Bogdanovic misses 17-foot jumper 104 - 101
3:13 Marcus Morris Sr. defensive rebound 104 - 101
3:13 Clippers Full timeout 104 - 101
3:13 Kings Full timeout 104 - 101
2:58 Landry Shamet misses 27-foot three point jumper 104 - 101
2:53 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 104 - 101
2:33 Bogdan Bogdanovic makes 28-foot three point jumper (Harrison Barnes assists) 107 - 101
2:19 Lou Williams misses driving floating jump shot 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell offensive rebound 107 - 101
2:14 Montrezl Harrell misses tip shot 107 - 101
2:14 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:57 Kent Bazemore misses layup 107 - 101
1:55 Kawhi Leonard defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:44 Landry Shamet misses 23-foot three point jumper 107 - 101
1:42 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 107 - 101
1:30 De'Aaron Fox out of bounds lost ball turnover 107 - 101
1:20 Harry Giles III blocks Kawhi Leonard 's 6-foot driving layup 107 - 101
1:18 Bogdan Bogdanovic defensive rebound 107 - 101
58.1 Harry Giles III makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Bogdan Bogdanovic assists) 109 - 101
58.1 Clippers Full timeout 109 - 101
57.5 Kawhi Leonard makes 2-foot alley oop dunk shot (Marcus Morris Sr. assists) 109 - 103
39.9 De'Aaron Fox makes two point shot 111 - 103
39.9 Clippers Full timeout 111 - 103
35.1 Lou Williams misses 29-foot three point jumper 111 - 103
32.9 Kent Bazemore defensive rebound 111 - 103
30.7 Kawhi Leonard personal foul 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox misses free throw 1 of 2 111 - 103
30.7 Kings offensive team rebound 111 - 103
30.7 De'Aaron Fox makes free throw 2 of 2 112 - 103
17.6 Marcus Morris Sr. misses 27-foot three point jumper 112 - 103
15.1 Harry Giles III defensive rebound 112 - 103
0.0 End of the 4th Quarter 112 - 103
0.0 End of Game 112 - 103


Fatigue is always a factor there is a reason the Kings started to counter push the run when the brought their starters back by the end of the 9 minute mark

It worked before when we had other defenders who didn’t need the ball. Doc putting out 5 guys that need to ball to be productive with a big that’s human likely getting fatigue is risky. With Morris and Shamet in the game instead of Beverly/George/Harkless just makes a bunch of guys standing around waiting to do something. That’s not on Trez but when you can clearly see he is fatigued and we don’t have the defenders to cover everything goes to hell

Late game play execution has been terrible



well, a fresh Zu in the beginning of the 3rd put us in the 10-point hole that Trezz turned around
the Trezz/Zu thing is an easy answer but speculation at best and no factual support

I don't think Trezz fatigue was a factor or that Zu would have made a difference either
Shamet and Morris being ineffective was what hurt

but who would you pull off the bench to replace them?



Would point to that run being perimeter shooting and only two being buckets being inside the paint. After Giles and the starters came in they got to the line attacking and some good looks from deep posting up. Again not on Trez but 17 straight minutes type games have always been insane.

Doc better figure out a way to fix the defense because Alex Len type situation won’t be there every game

Can’t see why you ignoring fatigue when Trez only had 3 points in the last 9 mins of the game. Even on possible putbacks he couldn’t finish
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Post#132 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:34 am

TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
Fatigue is always a factor there is a reason the Kings started to counter push the run when the brought their starters back by the end of the 9 minute mark

It worked before when we had other defenders who didn’t need the ball. Doc putting out 5 guys that need to ball to be productive with a big that’s human likely getting fatigue is risky. With Morris and Shamet in the game instead of Beverly/George/Harkless just makes a bunch of guys standing around waiting to do something. That’s not on Trez but when you can clearly see he is fatigued and we don’t have the defenders to cover everything goes to hell

Late game play execution has been terrible



well, a fresh Zu in the beginning of the 3rd put us in the 10-point hole that Trezz turned around
the Trezz/Zu thing is an easy answer but speculation at best and no factual support

I don't think Trezz fatigue was a factor or that Zu would have made a difference either
Shamet and Morris being ineffective was what hurt

but who would you pull off the bench to replace them?



Would point to that run being perimeter shooting and only two being buckets being inside the paint. After Giles and the starters came in they got to the line attacking and some good looks from deep posting up. Again not on Trez but 17 straight minutes type games have always been insane.

Doc better figure out a way to fix the defense because Alex Len type situation won’t be there every game



you didn't have much of a suggestion as to who Doc could have played instead of Sham and MM
we miss Pat bad

but the problem wasn't that we gave up 24 points in the 4th
it's that we only scored 20

we only had 3 guys in double figures
and taking one or two out does not seem logical
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#133 » by reignfire » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:50 am

Some teams are bad match ups, and its usually the teams you don't expect.

In the playoffs, will the Clippers be playing the Kings? No.

You construct your team to be a good match up vs likely contenders. Even if it means you lose to a couple bad teams regularly.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#134 » by MartinRiggs » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:58 am

I guess this team took seriously what Kawhi said that this is just 82 practice games,they are playing like it for sure. I think I won't watch that many games untill playoff,why watch practice.Let the Lakers take first seed with some margin so thay can rest players in the last 2 weeks. :)
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#135 » by esqtvd » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:15 am

MartinRiggs wrote:I guess this team took seriously what Kawhi said that this is just 82 practice games,they are playing like it for sure. I think I won't watch that many games untill playoff,why watch practice.Let the Lakers take first seed with some margin so thay can rest players in the last 2 weeks. :)



In fairness, LeBron is a freak of nature and seems to be handling his 35 mpg workload--plus point guard duties--with incredible ease. Aside from AD, that is not even a playoff team over there. Even with AD, probably not. Even if he doesn't get another ring, this is one of LeBron's finest seasons ever, coming at age 35. Props where they're due. One of the 5 greatest of all time.


We just don't have somebody like that. Kawhi is still carrying the Clippers, but doing it in a way that's right for his body. Kawhi's legacy will be about the playoffs, not the regular season--although he's at career highs in many areas.

PG's absence is vexing, but probably related to his shoulder operations--he got out of playing shape and the hamstring came back to bite him. Otherwise, and aside from that broken leg a few years back, PG's been a 35 mpg kind of iron man too.

35 minutes per game from one of the best 2-way players in the NBA would solve a LOT of our problems so far on either end. We needed just a little more scoring and a little more on D today. Put PG out there instead of either Morris or Shamet [who both had crap games] at any given moment in the game and we win by double digits easily.

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    "You never know what could happen," Leonard said when asked if the Clippers need to see things start to come together before concern sets in. "But I mean, now. The time is now. Just got to keep getting better.

    "But it doesn't matter what seed you are. Just got to keep fighting. It is about the right team peaking at the right time. I don't think we have even got there yet. It feels like we are getting close, but we just need guys to get healthy."


The story of the Clippers' season so far is health, not coaching, not even effort. And it continues to be about health. The playoffs will be about health. Today we trotted out Kawhi along with a bunch of [no]bodies, and then the Lou and Trezz Show. Almost got away with it. Just not today.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#136 » by CROklahoma » Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:11 am

Wouldnt a solution actually be Zu and Trez combo, just like OKC played Adams/Kanter duo against Spurs in WCSF which ultimately brought them the win in series.

Everybody is obsessed with going small these days, these two on the floor would potentialy be fatal in crashing the glass, considering Kawhi likes ISO on side, and Shamet going through lots of screens. Two big's settings huge screens would mean more space, and Montrezl can atleast somewhat space the floor here or there ...
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#137 » by Gordon » Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:33 am

There is no point in playing Harrell 19 minutes straight. If you are going to play him as much in 2nd half. Have him in at the start of 2nd half, play Zubac last part of 3rd/early 4th, and have Trezz fresh for finish.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#138 » by TheNewEra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:12 pm

Gordon wrote:There is no point in playing Harrell 19 minutes straight. If you are going to play him as much in 2nd half. Have him in at the start of 2nd half, play Zubac last part of 3rd/early 4th, and have Trezz fresh for finish.


Trez isn’t the best matchup against more talented centers or long energy guys like Giles or Holmes. Trez plays a good chunk of his minutes against bench players and end of games have always been a tricky issue. It’s made worse when his minutes are bundled up
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#139 » by TheNewEra » Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:54 pm

esqtvd wrote:
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esqtvd wrote:

well, a fresh Zu in the beginning of the 3rd put us in the 10-point hole that Trezz turned around
the Trezz/Zu thing is an easy answer but speculation at best and no factual support

I don't think Trezz fatigue was a factor or that Zu would have made a difference either
Shamet and Morris being ineffective was what hurt

but who would you pull off the bench to replace them?



Would point to that run being perimeter shooting and only two being buckets being inside the paint. After Giles and the starters came in they got to the line attacking and some good looks from deep posting up. Again not on Trez but 17 straight minutes type games have always been insane.

Doc better figure out a way to fix the defense because Alex Len type situation won’t be there every game



you didn't have much of a suggestion as to who Doc could have played instead of Sham and MM
we miss Pat bad

but the problem wasn't that we gave up 24 points in the 4th
it's that we only scored 20

we only had 3 guys in double figures
and taking one or two out does not seem logical


Would of went with Coffey and Jackson and kept Morris in the game. We absolutely miss Pat we play to many players who need the ball at once and some of them are not the best defenders.

It’s by no accident that Kawhi will have big scoring games but as of late won’t look productive in the 4th. Let Morris and Kawhi run a two man game and some actual plays

Lou and Harrell had a great run against the Kings bench unit but the game flipped when the starters came in for them
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles Clippers (37-18) vs. Sacramento Kings (22-33) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#140 » by Clemenza » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:42 pm

Well Monday against Memphis will tell us a lot moving forward. If ole Doc is keeping the same rotations good luck to Lou and Sham trying to keep JA Morant in front of them.. and Trez trying to body up a rotation of Valanciunas, Jared Jackson Jr., and Brandon Clarke all game long.

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