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Re: GAME 2: LAC @ NUGGETS--Christmas Day 7:30PM on ESPN 

Post#121 » by TheNewEra » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:18 am

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playaloc916 wrote:Beautiful ball movement, big 3 by Lou



oh do we like Lou now?


please update me, Play
I thought we hated him

tryin to be part of the New Positivity :lol:



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Post#122 » by playaloc916 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:20 am

TheNewEra wrote:
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playaloc916 wrote:Beautiful ball movement, big 3 by Lou



oh do we like Lou now?


please update me, Play
I thought we hated him

tryin to be part of the New Positivity :lol:



You are really going to keep this up all season ?

I was happy a minute ago, and now I'm ****ing pissed off. Gonna log off now.
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Post#123 » by Kelphus » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:21 am

Ibaka and Batum look like killer pickups so far. Love to see more from Kennard.

I agree, Pat Bev fouls too much.

2 down, 70 to go.
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Post#124 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:22 am

TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Beautiful ball movement, big 3 by Lou



oh do we like Lou now?


please update me, Play
I thought we hated him

tryin to be part of the New Positivity :lol:



You are really going to keep this up all season ?

Being a contrarian troll has been his shtick for his entire time on the board, why would he stop now?
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Post#125 » by ejftw » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:22 am

Kelphus wrote:Ibaka and Batum look like killer pickups so far. Love to see more from Kennard.

I agree, Pat Bev fouls too much.

2 down, 70 to go.


86 to go ;)
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Post#126 » by og15 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:23 am

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ejftw wrote:I hate him because the Clippers had to cut Ky Bowman, who I would've preferred over him, on top of his subpar play.

Can we bring back Richie Frahm :cry:

Haha, real throwback with Frahm. I'm still a Rick Brunson fan, guy was clutch in his own mind too.

Always have to be prepared for injury. The question becomes if a guard or two gets injured and you need someone off the bench to play extended minutes and fit with your other players, can Bowman do it, or can Jackson? It's hard for a below average shooting guard like Bowman to get a roster spot over a vet like Jackson. Very unlikely.


Hey, Brunson kept us in the playoff hunt :lol:

Going with throwbacks, we should go Jaric and retire his number. Because of him, we got Sam Cassell and the 06 run along with the Minny pick, which helped get CP. He's a legend.

I get what you mean, however, it's not like Jackson himself is a good shooter. Bowman can at least improve, I don't see that for Reggie. In either case, as long as we avoid the injury bug, and Lue having a Doc-esque infatuation with Reggie, all this is moot to discuss, because, as you said, he won't get much burn and has a shorter leash

Jackson is a reliable shooter. He can make you pay playing off him. Career wise, yes, not great, but that's because of his first 4 years. Since 15-16 he's 35.8% 3PT on 4.5 attempts. Previous two seasons he was up to 37.5% on 5.5 attempts over 113 games. He's got a very healthy sample size on his size.

I do hope Lue can find good spots to play him though. As long as you can reel him in or bench him when he starts trying to be a star out there, should be okay.
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Re: GAME 2: LAC @ NUGGETS--Christmas Day 7:30PM on ESPN 

Post#127 » by TheNewEra » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:24 am

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og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.



Reggie has played far from capable. He had 3 of his mistakes erased by luck and he’s generally terrible on defense.

3rd string guards don’t play every game and the fact that he does because of Beverly and foul trouble will be a consistent issue. We also know Beverly will miss time as his age with nagging injuries and he will have a even larger role. Once the vet min goes down we need to explore using the last spot. You can’t go into the postseason with Reggie getting minutes because of fouls or injuries

Beverley needs to stop fouling. Unless the injury bug really hits, or Kennard is for some reason unplayable, I really don't see how Reggie could sneak himself unto the floor in the playoffs if he isn't playing very well.

After Bev, George, Lou (if not traded) and Kennard, there's also Batum playing as a guard as options for guard minutes. In a shortened playoff rotation, if Jackson is an option, then something else would need to be up.


Beverly will never stop fouling that’s just what he does but he’s 2 for 2 taking himself out of big minutes. I don’t see him stopping and being a year older it might be because he’s a step slower in recovery.

Problem is Kennard and Lou suck on defense and Kennard can be really really bad at times. Think Lue is hoping he improves all around before expanding his role but if it doesn’t happen year one I’m terrified of Reggie getting minutes. There are to many factors that make Reggie going from DNP to 10-13 mpg
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Post#128 » by Captain Ballmer » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:25 am

og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.


Not If your first guard aren't capable playing 30+ minutes per game with silly fouls. We really need Morris back to unable back up rotations involves 3 guard with Reggie. Then I'm fine with his 3rd string only available garbage time minutes.
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Post#129 » by TheNewEra » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:27 am

Mann needs to breakout and steal some minutes and some goes for Fi.

Overall great team effort and win with plenty of work to be done. If Kawhi can’t go against Dallas that’s a big challenge for PG solo vs Luka
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Post#130 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:28 am

Well everything was great and now Kawhi gets injured. :banghead:
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Post#131 » by donemilio21 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:29 am

It felt different. We didn't collapse after taking a commanding lead. Lue called Time at the right moments.

I like that PG is playing like he has something to prove. Let's hope he keeps it up.

Ball movement on the offense was great. 35 assists but none of them is from our starting point guard. That just an interesting point.

This is only the 2nd time I'm watching Kennard play. He does not look like a $15m a year player, not a starter, not a 6th man. I hope what he showed so far is a fluke, we are in big trouble with that contract if not.

I think Patterson won't see any minutes once Morris is back.

If Batum plays like this, he will get to be the starter even if Morris is back.
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Post#132 » by Captain Ballmer » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:32 am

playaloc916 wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

oh do we like Lou now?


please update me, Play
I thought we hated him

tryin to be part of the New Positivity :lol:



You are really going to keep this up all season ?

I was happy a minute ago, and now I'm ****ing pissed off. Gonna log off now.


Just put him on your ignore list. I did and I'm happy, I'd even be more happy If you guys did too instead of quoting that clown and make his miserable posts visible again.
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Post#134 » by og15 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:36 am

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og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.


Not If your first guard aren't capable playing 30+ minutes per game with silly fouls. We really need Morris back to unable back up rotations involves 3 guard with Reggie. Then I'm fine with his 3rd string only available garbage time minutes.

You guys are right that Beverley's attraction to fouls compound things. Reggie has low level starter ability, one can find a way to survive with him for 10-15 minutes here and there....maybe.


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Reggie has played far from capable. He had 3 of his mistakes erased by luck and he’s generally terrible on defense.

3rd string guards don’t play every game and the fact that he does because of Beverly and foul trouble will be a consistent issue. We also know Beverly will miss time as his age with nagging injuries and he will have a even larger role. Once the vet min goes down we need to explore using the last spot. You can’t go into the postseason with Reggie getting minutes because of fouls or injuries

Beverley needs to stop fouling. Unless the injury bug really hits, or Kennard is for some reason unplayable, I really don't see how Reggie could sneak himself unto the floor in the playoffs if he isn't playing very well.

After Bev, George, Lou (if not traded) and Kennard, there's also Batum playing as a guard as options for guard minutes. In a shortened playoff rotation, if Jackson is an option, then something else would need to be up.


Beverly will never stop fouling that’s just what he does but he’s 2 for 2 taking himself out of big minutes. I don’t see him stopping and being a year older it might be because he’s a step slower in recovery.

Problem is Kennard and Lou suck on defense and Kennard can be really really bad at times. Think Lue is hoping he improves all around before expanding his role but if it doesn’t happen year one I’m terrified of Reggie getting minutes. There are to many factors that make Reggie going from DNP to 10-13 mpg
You could be right about Bev being a step slower as a factor, but then I remember him running over to help on Jokic and fouling him while trying to block his fadeaway jump shot, and I just conclude that it is stupidity and over-zealous behaviour instead :lol:
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Post#135 » by NickP » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:37 am

og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.

People hate him because once he makes his first shot he goes in ISO mode and screws the offensive rhythm. Reggie is a real good spot up shooter and can be good if used as such.
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Post#136 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:38 am

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Post#137 » by NickP » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:41 am

esqtvd wrote:glad our little Clipper family is so happy now

Doc is gone
Ty is God


let's all enjoy the rest of the season together


oh wait
lead cut to 13
with a whole quarter to go

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Post#138 » by TheNewEra » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:44 am

og15 wrote:
DieHardFan wrote:
og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.


Not If your first guard aren't capable playing 30+ minutes per game with silly fouls. We really need Morris back to unable back up rotations involves 3 guard with Reggie. Then I'm fine with his 3rd string only available garbage time minutes.

You guys are right that Beverley's attraction to fouls compound things. Reggie has low level starter ability, one can find a way to survive with him for 10-15 minutes here and there....maybe.


TheNewEra wrote:
og15 wrote:Beverley needs to stop fouling. Unless the injury bug really hits, or Kennard is for some reason unplayable, I really don't see how Reggie could sneak himself unto the floor in the playoffs if he isn't playing very well.

After Bev, George, Lou (if not traded) and Kennard, there's also Batum playing as a guard as options for guard minutes. In a shortened playoff rotation, if Jackson is an option, then something else would need to be up.


Beverly will never stop fouling that’s just what he does but he’s 2 for 2 taking himself out of big minutes. I don’t see him stopping and being a year older it might be because he’s a step slower in recovery.

Problem is Kennard and Lou suck on defense and Kennard can be really really bad at times. Think Lue is hoping he improves all around before expanding his role but if it doesn’t happen year one I’m terrified of Reggie getting minutes. There are to many factors that make Reggie going from DNP to 10-13 mpg
You could be right about Bev being a step slower as a factor, but then I remember him running over to help on Jokic and fouling him while trying to block his fadeaway jump shot, and I just conclude that it is stupidity and over-zealous behaviour instead :lol:


When Zu has to tell you calm down with the fouls and wtf was that with a foul you know you messed up :lol:
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Post#140 » by og15 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:47 am

NickP wrote:
og15 wrote:People hate Reggie so much, lol

He's the 5th guard, he has 13 minutes on the night. I think it's fine that he gives him burn, but has a fairly short leash. Reggie is a capable basketball player, just need to use him in the right situations.

On a team at the level, if he's in a role wherw you can take him out as soon as needed and don't have to rely on him, it's perfectly fine. He's good 3rd string guard depth.

People hate him because once he makes his first shot he goes in ISO mode and screws the offensive rhythm. Reggie is a real good spot up shooter and can be good if used as such.

I definitely get why he's hated, just not to the extent, where it seems to literally make some cringe when he gets subbed in.

You are correct, when he has to be a decision maker, Reggie is not generally very exciting. When he does the basics and plays as mainly a spot up guy who can bring the ball up, do some basic pick and roll, etc, not so bad.

He has the irrational confidence though, always has, and since he's been a starter and gotten paid in the past, it's not likely one can shake his belief that he can do much more than just be that spot up guy.

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