Trade Idea Thread II

[QRich3]

Prince is a really bad player nowadays, not worthy of playing time. He'd be worse than Granger was for us last year. Forget about getting a useful rotation player from the waiver wire unless something incredibly unlikely happens, like Joe Johnson getting bought out or something like that. And forget getting a starting SF by trading Crawford alone, there's only 4/5 teams who can be interested in him at this point, and none of them is gonna give anything good in exchange. Not to keep beating on a dead horse, but Bullock was our only (albeit long shot) chance at having a starting caliber SF in the next couple years. I'm just thankful Barnes steep decline is not here yet, although it shouldn't be long from now.

[TucsonClip]

Even if we land Robinson, everyone needs to realize that we arent getting Nate Robinson from the Bulls. Not saying he wont play well, but he tore his ACL almost a year ago and has been having back problems all season. He isnt going to be as explosive as we all remember, and I am not certain he stays healthy the rest of the season anyway.

Furthermore, he is jacking threes at a pretty high rate, and his rebound, steal and free throw rates have fallen due to his injury. He also has been terrible defensively.

Just a word of caution is all, if he even signs here.

I wouldnt be surprised to see a 3 guard lineup off the bench with Robinson, Crawford and Rivers. I think Prince makes some sense, but he hasnt been bought out yet and outside Rivers putting him on the floor, not sure how much of an impact he makes. Regardless, we are desperate for depth at SF, so I cant exactly be against the signing.

[LACtdom]

Even if we land Robinson, everyone needs to realize that we arent getting Nate Robinson from the Bulls. Not saying he wont play well, but he tore his ACL almost a year ago and has been having back problems all season. He isnt going to be as explosive as we all remember, and I am not certain he stays healthy the rest of the season anyway.

Furthermore, he is jacking threes at a pretty high rate, and his rebound, steal and free throw rates have fallen due to his injury. He also has been terrible defensively.

Just a word of caution is all, if he even signs here.

I wouldnt be surprised to see a 3 guard lineup off the bench with Robinson, Crawford and Rivers. I think Prince makes some sense, but he hasnt been bought out yet and outside Rivers putting him on the floor, not sure how much of an impact he makes. Regardless, we are desperate for depth at SF, so I cant exactly be against the signing.

Doc loves to sign injured players and then get rid of them by giving up assets. If Robinson is suffering from injury concerns then Doc will do anything to sign him.

In all seriousness, Robinson has had great games/series but if you watched him day in/day out, he is a smaller, faster version of jamal crawford. He will jack up shots and he will win us some games and lose us some games. I would rather Prince, or anyone who isn't a chucker and has length.

[LACtdom]

What do you guys think of a Hawes --> pick --> Plumlee since phoenix are shopping him?

[Forte IV]

What do you guys think of a Hawes --> pick --> Plumlee since phoenix are shopping him?

You want us to trade Hawes AND a pick for Plumlee? Hawes has been struggling this year (probably because if his injury), but I'll still take him over Plumlee.

[nickhx2]

don't blame him. doc's obsession with destroying picks is probably rubbing off on all of us.

[LACtdom]

What do you guys think of a Hawes --> pick --> Plumlee since phoenix are shopping him?

You want us to trade Hawes AND a pick for Plumlee? Hawes has been struggling this year (probably because if his injury), but I'll still take him over Plumlee.

I worded that wrong. I meant a 3 team trade as in trading Hawes for a pick and then sending that pick to phoenix for Plumlee.
Hawes is a better player but maybe Plumlee is a better fit.

[kylem4711]

Just saw the bucks are going to buy out Larry sanders. He's a head case, but is way better than baby.

[Neddy]

Just saw the bucks are going to buy out Larry sanders. He's a head case, but is way better than baby.

was about to post the same thing, I am all for it.

Larry Sanders as our 3rd rotational big would do wonders in terms of our total rebounding and block shots. even if its a simple pairing with Hawes for the second unit, we would be so much better with Larry than with Baby or Udoh.

[LACtdom]

Just saw the bucks are going to buy out Larry sanders. He's a head case, but is way better than baby.

was about to post the same thing, I am all for it.

Larry Sanders as our 3rd rotational big would do wonders in terms of our total rebounding and block shots. even if its a simple pairing with Hawes for the second unit, we would be so much better with Larry than with Baby or Udoh.

lol When I suggested this no one thought it was a good idea.

I think you guys aren't seeing all the non box score things that Davis does which Hawes doesn't but yes Sanders would be an upgrade over either.

[Forte IV]

^^To be fair you wanted to get him in a trade to replace DJ, not back him up.

But anyways, only way we'd get him is if they cut him. Who knows if that'll actually happen, and/or when it will happen.

[Quake Griffin]

Does Larry Sanders even want to play basketball?

[Wammy Giveaway]

If the Bucks buy out Larry Sanders, and should the Clippers decide to go after him, somebody is going to become expendable.

Ekpe Udoh would be the odd man out, but if they want to trade him, they'll have to give up C.J. Wilcox as their lone asset.

What if Doc wants Wilson Chandler? They'll have to give up either Spencer Hawes or Jamal Crawford just to match salaries.

But here's the real kicker: what if Doc decides that having Sanders makes DJ a redundant piece. He could be traded for superstar Kevin Love, who the Cavaliers may start seeing as a bad fit, and Anderson Varejao is out for the season. And let's not forget that Doc is still praying on the buyout market for Nate Robinson and Tayshaun Prince. Finally, Doc needs one of his Big 3 guys back in either Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

Larry Sanders would help basketball wise, but it may complicate things and possibly compromise their chemistry. Is Austin Rivers a good enough person (not player) to keep the trust between players together?

[Forte IV]

We're not trading DJ for Kevin Love. He doesn't even fit here. He can't play center and he sure as hell won't come off the bench.

[Neddy]

Just saw the bucks are going to buy out Larry sanders. He's a head case, but is way better than baby.

was about to post the same thing, I am all for it.

Larry Sanders as our 3rd rotational big would do wonders in terms of our total rebounding and block shots. even if its a simple pairing with Hawes for the second unit, we would be so much better with Larry than with Baby or Udoh.

lol When I suggested this no one thought it was a good idea.

I think you guys aren't seeing all the non box score things that Davis does which Hawes doesn't but yes Sanders would be an upgrade over either.

you didn't suggest a buyout scenario of Larry Sanders from what i remember tho.

[Neddy]

^^To be fair you wanted to get him in a trade to replace DJ, not back him up.

But anyways, only way we'd get him is if they cut him. Who knows if that'll actually happen, and/or when it will happen.

this is what i also remember, thanks for posting this so I don't have to look for his old post.

[LACtdom]

^^To be fair you wanted to get him in a trade to replace DJ, not back him up.

But anyways, only way we'd get him is if they cut him. Who knows if that'll actually happen, and/or when it will happen.

this is what i also remember, thanks for posting this so I don't have to look for his old post.

Correct, but as soon as Sanders said he didn't want to play for the Bucks we all knew the Bucks didn't have any trade leverage with him. It doesn't matter how we acquire him, if we can turn his attitude around he will be a bargain.

[nickhx2]

i'm like the most anti-bad chemistry fan ever. you don't add malcontents to your team, no matter how talented they are. you just don't.

but.... is there really any other choice for us ? doc's pretty much proven by now he has no clue how to manage a team's assets, so any chance of improving our roster through the draft is impossible.

the only way we can gain substantial talent is by adding players like larry sanders, throwaways who would be rotation players or potential all-stars if they weren't batsh*t crazy.

i hate it.

[Neddy]

^^To be fair you wanted to get him in a trade to replace DJ, not back him up.

But anyways, only way we'd get him is if they cut him. Who knows if that'll actually happen, and/or when it will happen.

this is what i also remember, thanks for posting this so I don't have to look for his old post.

Correct, but as soon as Sanders said he didn't want to play for the Bucks we all knew the Bucks didn't have any trade leverage with him. It doesn't matter how we acquire him, if we can turn his attitude around he will be a bargain.

well there is a huge difference between trading DJ to acquire Larry to start for us, versus bringing Larry on cheap to back up the clearly better player in DJ without losing any asset, regardless of his attitude.

[QRich3]

I had a big mancrush on Saunders when he was playing at his peak a couple years ago, but it's gonna be hard to get him to come here if he's bought out. There's gonna be several teams who can possibly offer him starting roles in hopes he can get back to that, Cleveland comes to mind. And I'm not a big fan of betting on reclamation projects like him, the majority of those end up disappointing.

I'll say this though, f*ck the NBA for trying to push him out of the league, if the man don't wanna give up ganja who's the league to say he can't be an NBA player because of it. It's 2015 ffs