Trade Idea Thread II

[QRich3]

do we have room under the cap? i know we have roster spots available to sign buyouts, but after stretching Carlos Delfino and Miroslav for the next five years and cutting Farmar outright, we are still on the books for 3 millions of dead money for players no longer playing for us, and about a million for the following 4 years for the spoken stretch provisioned players.

I thought by locking in Jones for the remainder of the season, any more signing other than a 10 day deal would push us over the tax line. somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this.

well considering we got a mega rich owner would going over the cap a bit be that big of a issue?

our bench right now is the reason we got no shot

yes it is an issue. we have been very public about staying under the tax line this season so far. if Ballmer didn't care for the taxes, and knowing before the season was over he would be paying lux tax, he would have been vocal about what he is willing to spend as an owner publicly going over the cap line, willingly, would be a great PR move. that didn't come. and Doc has said more than once we are trying to stay under to avoid repeat offenders tax this year.

Have we? I think we're gonna be over the tax for the 3rd year in a row unless we waive Crawford outright, which I'd be very surprised by. I think you lot might be mistaking the tax line, which is about $74M this year, with the apron, which is at about $80M. We are hard capped at the apron, but that's because we decided to use the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions on Hawes and Farmar, not because they didn't want to spend money. But we're gonna be over the tax and pay the repeater thing for sure.

[Ranma]

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[TroubleS0me]

keeping Jamal huh?
hmm..

[Ranma]

Some people make it harder for themselves than necessary. Doc's acting like it's not his fault that the team is in its current predicament. "What can you do?" How about stepping down from the GM post, Doc?

Dan Woike, Orange County Register (2/19/15)

“Teams got better, at least paper-wise,” coach and president of basketball operations Doc Rivers said. “I’m glad we don’t play on paper, thank God. But, we’ll see. What can you do? We couldn’t do any of these things. If you just looked at our roster and our salaries, I don’t think it takes a scientist to figure out why we’re not doing a lot of moves. It’s very hard to do it.”

The Clippers explored ways to get better on the wing, sniffing around on players such as Phoenix’s Gerald Green and Oklahoma City’s Perry Jones III, but no deal was close.

“We were as active as everybody else. We just didn’t do anything,” Rivers said. “There was nothing for us. We don’t have a lot of assets we could turn around, and we kind of knew that going into it.”

Clippers don't have players or picks to make a deal before trade deadline

[pageC4]

The biggest fear I have about our position is that our roster is primarily composed of guys older than 30. Jamal, Redick, Barnes, Paul, Turkoglu. Glen Davis is 29, Blake is 25, and Deandre is 26. we don't have draft picks coming up, so that's also a cause for alarm. As is we are barely holding on to the 5th spot and for the majority of the season we have had the 6th spot. Any move now should keep our future in mind, so we shouldn't deal out draft picks.

[nickhx2]

age shouldn't be a worry. you only have to look to the spurs as exhibit A. the most important thing for this team is continuity and that's what we are getting.

furthermore, cp3 could easily play and have an MVP impact until he's 38. and blake and dj are seriously babies: as the years go on they will get better and better and continue to take more on their shoulders.

we have nothing to worry about when it comes to age. the only thing we do need to worry about it is keeping it all together and making sure doc actually surrounds these guys with legit talent instead of a briefcase filled with notes saying "first-rounder IOU"

[LACtdom]

age shouldn't be a worry. you only have to look to the spurs as exhibit A. the most important thing for this team is continuity and that's what we are getting.

Age only doesn't matter to the Spurs because of their system. Our style of play is different and age will definitely affect us a lot more than it affects the Spurs.

[Neddy]

Some people make it harder for themselves than necessary. Doc's acting like it's not his fault that the team is in its current predicament. "What can you do?" How about stepping down from the GM post, Doc?

Dan Woike, Orange County Register (2/19/15)

“Teams got better, at least paper-wise,” coach and president of basketball operations Doc Rivers said. “I’m glad we don’t play on paper, thank God. But, we’ll see. What can you do? We couldn’t do any of these things. If you just looked at our roster and our salaries, I don’t think it takes a scientist to figure out why we’re not doing a lot of moves. It’s very hard to do it.”

The Clippers explored ways to get better on the wing, sniffing around on players such as Phoenix’s Gerald Green and Oklahoma City’s Perry Jones III, but no deal was close.

“We were as active as everybody else. We just didn’t do anything,” Rivers said. “There was nothing for us. We don’t have a lot of assets we could turn around, and we kind of knew that going into it.”

Clippers don't have players or picks to make a deal before trade deadline

somebody start a petition on change.org for doc to step down. i would except i don't use any social media so it wouldnt get out of this forum.

[Neddy]

age shouldn't be a worry. you only have to look to the spurs as exhibit A. the most important thing for this team is continuity and that's what we are getting.

Age only doesn't matter to the Spurs because of their system. Our style of play is different and age will definitely affect us a lot more than it affects the Spurs.

I think there is a vast difference between an experienced championship team aging together versus a team full of guys who never got there aging.

[nickhx2]

is it me? cause i'm pretty sure i said something about us on the way to continuity, among other things

[Neddy]

is it me? cause i'm pretty sure i said something about us on the way to continuity, among other things

maybe what you intended to say versus how I read your post perhaps was a mismatch. lol

anyhow, all I care about is that we finish this season strong and make some real noise comes playoffs. everything else is trivial.

[sportscrazy]

Just throwing something out there, not saying it makes the most sense for either side...

If and only if the Clippers lose in the first round of the playoffs:

Knicks get:
Chris Paul

Clippers get:
1st Overall Draft Pick
Jose Calderon
$14 Million TPE

Then you draft Okafor or Towns, let DeAndre Jordan leave and start the rebuild around your Griffin and Towns/Okafor front-court?

Knicks cave to 'Melo and get a NBA ready star.

[Neddy]

Just throwing something out there, not saying it makes the most sense for either side...

If and only if the Clippers lose in the first round of the playoffs:

Knicks get:
Chris Paul

Clippers get:
1st Overall Draft Pick
Jose Calderon
$14 Million TPE

Then you draft Okafor or Towns, let DeAndre Jordan leave and start the rebuild around your Griffin and Towns/Okafor front-court?

Knicks cave to 'Melo and get a NBA ready star.

you won't get anyone to bite on this proposal among clipper fans, really.




well? maybe all of us except one.... Martin to Vaught would probably be all over this deal.

[nickhx2]

yeah maybe you can send him a pm and invite him discuss cp3 trades on your own forums. far, far away from us, hopefully

[thanumba2clippersfan]

I might consider the deal if Melo could somehow be involved. If we traded away Paul we really wouldn't have any cap space to sign another PG next season. I'm also happy with DJ so I'm not ready to blow up this team.

[mttwlsn16]

Just throwing something out there, not saying it makes the most sense for either side...

If and only if the Clippers lose in the first round of the playoffs:

Knicks get:
Chris Paul

Clippers get:
1st Overall Draft Pick
Jose Calderon
$14 Million TPE

Then you draft Okafor or Towns, let DeAndre Jordan leave and start the rebuild around your Griffin and Towns/Okafor front-court?

Knicks cave to 'Melo and get a NBA ready star.

what the **** is this garbage?

[Wammy Giveaway]

yeah maybe you can send him a pm and invite him discuss cp3 trades on your own forums. far, far away from us, hopefully

Pretty soon, there's going to be a Clipper loyalty test for every member who wants to come here. Do we really want to make this a Clipper-fans-only website? Say one bad thing about your player, and it's instant betrayal, and you're labelled a fan of somebody else?

I like this forum, but the fact that this site becoming a Clipper-fans only place is starting to get ludicrous. We don't want to become the forum where we start exiling outsiders just because they're "against us". We need to be open to some trades, even if it means giving up somebody we truly love.

[nickhx2]

i actually did not mean it that way. in fact, just like you, i really dislike when people have a "clipper fans only" type mentality. i find it really unnerving when people say as much, as we should all feel free to post on different forums without consequence.

i just want him to make the other guy go away.

[ejftw]

Just throwing something out there, not saying it makes the most sense for either side...

If and only if the Clippers lose in the first round of the playoffs:

Knicks get:
Chris Paul

Clippers get:
1st Overall Draft Pick
Jose Calderon
$14 Million TPE

Then you draft Okafor or Towns, let DeAndre Jordan leave and start the rebuild around your Griffin and Towns/Okafor front-court?

Knicks cave to 'Melo and get a NBA ready star.

Can we also please, please, please throw in Blake Griffin for a S&T Andrea Bargnani. Please.



You want us to go from CP-Blake-DJ to a core of Blake with an unproven big and no cap?

[Neddy]

Pretty soon, there's going to be a Clipper loyalty test for every member who wants to come here. Do we really want to make this a Clipper-fans-only website? Say one bad thing about your player, and it's instant betrayal, and you're labelled a fan of somebody else?

I like this forum, but the fact that this site becoming a Clipper-fans only place is starting to get ludicrous. We don't want to become the forum where we start exiling outsiders just because they're "against us". We need to be open to some trades, even if it means giving up somebody we truly love.

for the first sentence, no, not really. I wasn't declaring MtV as non-clipper fan but declaring him as an odd ball with odd ideas WHO IS A CLIPPER FAN.

for you, on the other hand, who left your beloved LAKERS discussion forum after you got too much heat from whatever and defected, I couldn't care for any less. if you feel that this site is becoming "ludicrous", please, there is the door. don't let your purple and piss inner self be bruised by our red white and blue on the way out.