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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1361 » by donemilio21 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 1:59 am

St.Nick wrote:
GS Trades: Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright
LAC Trade: Chris Kaman and Baron Davis
CLE Trades: Antawn Jamison and Ramon Sessions

GS Receives: Chris Kaman
LAC Receive: Andris Biedrins, Antawn Jamison, and Ramon Sessions
CLE Receives: Baron Davis and Brandan Wright



I like this one.
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Post#1362 » by jgustav1 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 5:21 am

St.Nick wrote:There is a possibility to involve a third team to take on Baron, but you are going to have to take on some bad contracts in return.

GS Trades: Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright
LAC Trade: Chris Kaman and Baron Davis
CLE Trades: Antawn Jamison and Ramon Sessions

GS Receives: Chris Kaman
LAC Receive: Andris Biedrins, Antawn Jamison, and Ramon Sessions
CLE Receives: Baron Davis and Brandan Wright

You guys get out of Baron's contract and get a center replacement and some valuable backups.


Obviously I think we would be better off keeping Baron for the duration of the contract than making a deal for Jamison who makes more than Davis, 13+ million this year and 15+ million next year. He is probably just as hard to trade as Baron, if not harder as he doesn't play a premium position. The contract for Sessions is just as long as Baron's contract. Bledsoe needs time to develop, and unless the Clippers draft someone like Kyrie Irving, Baron may be needed for the next two seasons at least. He could possibly be traded as an expiring the following year with the final contract year on his contract remaining.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1363 » by clippermitch » Mon Dec 6, 2010 7:11 am

Baron is staying. No one will want to take him unless we take back someone with just as bad of a contract.

I think the player we need to trade is Kaman. He's hurt again and when he does play, he's inconsistent. We should trade him for an expiring contract and a young talent/high draft pick.

Kaman/Butler to WAS for Hinrich/Young/McGee.
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Post#1364 » by ClipperEric » Mon Dec 6, 2010 7:08 pm

clippermitch wrote:Kaman/Butler to WAS for Hinrich/Young/McGee.


Washington won't do this as they are rebuilding too. We need to send Kaman to at least a mid level contender to get some value in return. Butler's a great throw in too.

I was thinking of a deal with those 2 going to Orlando to give Dwight a side-kick and someone to relieve the pressue on him. Plus they get a 3 pt bomber. I haven't figured out what we'd want in return though. Maybe a 3rd team involved, or maybe somehow dump Baron in the process.
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Post#1365 » by scoobs07 » Mon Dec 6, 2010 8:44 pm

I'm thinking maybe the Clippers could offer Craig Smith and Rausuel Butler to Washington for Kirk Hinrich. This deal would upgrade the defense, three point shooting and reduce turnovers and provide some veteran leadership for the Clippers from the point guard position. Plus. Hinrich is a tall point guard, which is the ideal fit to play next to Eric Gordan, who is a short shooting guard. Hinrich did a terrific job in Chicago playing along side Ben Gordan and defending shooting guards. The Clippers loose 9 million in cap space for next season, but they seem to have a hard time attracting free agents anyways and if they have an opportunity to upgrade now maybe they should jump on it. As for Washington, this is a straight financial move. They immediately save 8.6 million this season with this trade and shave off 18 million off next years payroll (with luxury taxes). Since Smith and Butler are on new deals, this trade coukd not be consumated for another 8 days (December 15th).
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Post#1366 » by Det the Threat » Mon Dec 6, 2010 9:55 pm

We already have that "tall pg" going by the name of Baron Davis.

The only way we're trading for Hinrich is if we could get rid of Davis.
If we can't, trading for Hinrich(who I really like) wouldn't make any sense, as he'd be a back up taking time away from Eric Bledsoe and making $17 mil till 2012.

So no, trading Butler and Smith for Hinrich wouldn't be a good idea, as long as we've got Baron Davis on our team.
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Post#1367 » by Recently » Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:17 pm

After reading the latest WT on blazers possibly moving their vets, I'd personally love to see if we could get camby back. Hes always been a fav of mine, and i was so happy when we did have him. Sure hes old and doesn't really fit the rebuilding theme, but his game fits perfectly with blakes (good defensive center, that has a mid-long range jumper to help space) and hes just a great player overall. I'd give up kaman for him easily.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1368 » by WiscoKing13 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:01 am

how far down has kaman's value gone??
Bucks Trade
Redd-18.3
Dooling-2
Total-20.3

Bucks Get
Hinrich-9
Kaman-11.8

Wiz Trade
Hinrich-9
Yi-4.05
Thornton-2.8
Total-15.85

Wiz Get
Redd-18.3

Clips Trade
Kaman-11.8

Clips Get
Yi-4.05
Thornton-2.8
Dooling-2
Total-8.05

basically you get expirings who are RFA and and have to eat dooling salary next year
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Post#1369 » by jgustav1 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:45 am

WiscoKing13 wrote:how far down has kaman's value gone??

Clips Trade
Kaman-11.8

Clips Get
Yi-4.05
Thornton-2.8
Dooling-2
Total-8.05

basically you get expirings who are RFA and and have to eat dooling salary next year


Not that far down. Clippers have no roster spots for additional backups anyway.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1370 » by Det the Threat » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:48 am

WiscoKing13 wrote:
Clips Trade
Kaman-11.8

Clips Get
Yi-4.05
Thornton-2.8
Dooling-2
Total-8.05

basically you get expirings who are RFA and and have to eat dooling salary next year


Baron Davis is the guy who we'd like to get rid off and save some money on his contract.
Kaman is not.

So expirings or stuff like you're offering here surely won't net you Kaman, even if his injury problems have been frustrating this season.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1371 » by clippermitch » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:29 am

Denver has to make Melo happy to have a chance of resigning him.

How about Kmart (expiring)/JR Smith (expiring) for Kaman and Baron.

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

We get two expiring contracts and for the mean time, JR Smith can be our 3rd scorer. Denver gets a legit C, when healthy, and Baron who can be their PG if Billups is not resigned.

Maybe Knicks can get in on this too if they are desperate enough to get Melo.

Melo/Baron to Knicks for Eddie Curry/Gallo/Anthony Randolph/1st round picks.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1372 » by donemilio21 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:07 am

I got this idea;

Clippers give Baron, Kaman, Smith and Butler
Clippers get; Gortat, Diop, G. Wallace, M. Carroll

Bobcats get; Baron, Kaman, Smith, Butler and vince carter
bobcats give; S. Jackson, Diop, Carroll, Wallace, N. Mohammed, Diaw

Orlando get; Diaw, Mohammed, Jackson
orlando give; Gortat, Carter
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Post#1373 » by scoobs07 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:48 pm

I could see the clippers getting involved in a 3 team trade with Det and Cha. Clippers would get Diaw, Carroll and Maxiel. Det would get Davis and Gomes. Cha would get Hamilton. Clippers successfully get rid of Davis without taking on a contract to horrible. Diaw contract is a year shorter , carrol and maxiel are overpaid but so is gomes.
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Post#1374 » by scoobs07 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:51 pm

I would then follow up with butler and smith to wash for hinrich. All of a sudden the clippers have 5 dudes that are NBA starters.Hinrich Is a tall pg that could complement gordan. Diaw and hinrich are solid vets with hoops iq. I imagine they would help with the turnovers. Maxiel and caroll are decent back ups. Sg-gordan/carrol/warren
Pf- griffin/maxiel/cook
Sf-diaw/amino
C-kaman/Jordan
Pg-hinrich/Bledsoe/foe
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1375 » by donemilio21 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:41 pm

We should make a play for OJ Mayo. He is available for the right price and I think he can provide the scoring punch we need off the bench.
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Post#1376 » by SportsFan215 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:52 am

clippermitch wrote:Denver has to make Melo happy to have a chance of resigning him.

How about Kmart (expiring)/JR Smith (expiring) for Kaman and Baron.

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/

We get two expiring contracts and for the mean time, JR Smith can be our 3rd scorer. Denver gets a legit C, when healthy, and Baron who can be their PG if Billups is not resigned.

Maybe Knicks can get in on this too if they are desperate enough to get Melo.

Melo/Baron to Knicks for Eddie Curry/Gallo/Anthony Randolph/1st round picks.


I would do that first trade if DEN would, though I don't see them being that interested in that deal.
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Post#1377 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:48 am

Someone on the Pistons Forum has proposed an interesting trade. A 4 team deal between us, the Knicks, the Nuggets, and the Pistons.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1075840
the_l_train wrote:4-team trade:

New York Knicks get Carmelo.

(Why?: Obvious.)

Denver Nugs get Wilson Chandler, Rip Hamilton, and Baron Davis

(WHY? Because they are at least getting something for Melo. Rip and Davis are bad contracts, but could still be nice pieces.)

Detroit gets Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph, Christopher Kaman

(WHY? Clears logjam, Randolph is a nice piece, and Kaman returns home to dominate the paint.)

LA Clips receive Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince.

(WHY? Billups at point is a huge upgrade, Tayshaun returns home and is a starter. Great vets for Gordon and Griffin. Donald Stern gets rid of Baron Davis.)

Just an idea that works in the trade machine. I think it's legit.
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Post#1378 » by donemilio21 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:56 am

^^ Denver would rather let Melo go for nothing than doing that. Seriously, I wouldn't post this on the general trade board.
It favors Detroit hugely. I wish we could move Baron, but that doesn't seem likely right now. Maybe at the end of the season or right at the deadline.

I believe we have good chance using Kaman to get Gerald Wallace.
I would like a 3 team trade where Clippers get Mayo, Thabeet and Wallace for Kaman + fillers and pick(s).
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Post#1379 » by SportsFan215 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:45 pm

thanumba2clippersfan wrote:Someone on the Pistons Forum has proposed an interesting trade. A 4 team deal between us, the Knicks, the Nuggets, and the Pistons.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1075840
the_l_train wrote:4-team trade:

New York Knicks get Carmelo.

(Why?: Obvious.)

Denver Nugs get Wilson Chandler, Rip Hamilton, and Baron Davis

(WHY? Because they are at least getting something for Melo. Rip and Davis are bad contracts, but could still be nice pieces.)

Detroit gets Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph, Christopher Kaman

(WHY? Clears logjam, Randolph is a nice piece, and Kaman returns home to dominate the paint.)

LA Clips receive Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince.

(WHY? Billups at point is a huge upgrade, Tayshaun returns home and is a starter. Great vets for Gordon and Griffin. Donald Stern gets rid of Baron Davis.)

Just an idea that works in the trade machine. I think it's legit.


Denver would never do that deal. All the other teams probably would though.
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Post#1380 » by JustOneFix » Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:54 pm

You guys should have traded Baron right before the season and sign Iverson and let him run the point.

Iverson
Gordon
Jordan
Griffin
Kaman

That team would be in a playoff picture right now, not 8-22.

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