Trade Idea Thread

[SportsFan215]

You guys should have traded Baron right before the season and sign Iverson and let him run the point.

Iverson
Gordon
Jordan
Griffin
Kaman

That team would be in a playoff picture right now, not 8-22.

DJ at SF? I wonder how that would go...

[HighAbove]

You guys should have traded Baron right before the season and sign Iverson and let him run the point.

Iverson
Gordon
Jordan
Griffin
Kaman

That team would be in a playoff picture right now, not 8-22.

Dude you are overrating Iverson now.Im watching him here in Turkey nearly every week and I see a lot differences from old AI. He hardly beat his man and go to the hoop and that was his best offensive play which makes him a fine scorer and a creative guard.He just dribbles a little and makes stop-jump shots.He may be better with time but I dont see him play like he used to and that wouldnt be enough for Clippers.

[badonkadonkdonk]

just brainstorming here:

a.randolph, r.turiaf, e.curry, 2nd rounder
for
kaman, warren, gomes

how far off would that be? and a question on the side... is warren a pure 2 guard or can he distribute aswell?

[SportsFan215]

just brainstorming here:

a.randolph, r.turiaf, e.curry, 2nd rounder
for
kaman, warren, gomes

how far off would that be? and a question on the side... is warren a pure 2 guard or can he distribute aswell?

It's not awful, but it's still a no for me. I want to wait until Kaman comes back, so his value will most likely rise. Plus Randolph probably would never be able to grow to his potential with Blake here.

[Det the Threat]

just brainstorming here:

a.randolph, r.turiaf, e.curry, 2nd rounder
for
kaman, warren, gomes

how far off would that be? and a question on the side... is warren a pure 2 guard or can he distribute aswell?

Warren, when given minutes, did play both guard spots for us.
Though, I believe that he's best used at the 2 guard spot, where he can concentrate on what he does best, which is scoring.

As far as this trade goes:
Curry's done and that 2nd rounder is pretty much hoping hat we could land a talent like Warren.
And Kaman + Gomes is worth more than Randolph(who hasn't shown anything so far) and Turiaf.

So it's pretty far off, especially since I hope to use Kaman in a deal that helps us get rid of Baron Davis and his contract.

[badonkadonkdonk]

thanks. i see your point, although kaman (he definetly has the value, when playing) and baron combine for quite a lot of dough. to find a trade with decent return of... what, 25mil? won't be easy.but i hope the clips find a way to ship baron

[Det the Threat]

thanks. i see your point, although kaman (he definetly has the value, when playing) and baron combine for quite a lot of dough. to find a trade with decent return of... what, 25mil? won't be easy.but i hope the clips find a way to ship baron

Yeah, getting rid of Baron and using Kaman for it would be a tough sell.
Still, here's hoping for that.

Anyways, you'll certainly find some guys around here that wouldn't mind trading Kaman while not getting rid of Baron, but I doubt your package(or anything the Knicks would be willing to offer) would do it for them as well.

If we do trade Kaman(without Baron) we'd need some help down low and Turiaf(even with Randolph attached) wouldn't be enough for that.

[DarkoManu]

Hawks fan here, what would you guys think of this:

[quote="SportsFan215"]I'm not sure where to put this, but would ATL have any interest in this type of deal in the offseason?

Kaman/Clippers 2011 First for Horford

There might need to be some other players involved for Horford's PPP/future BYC status, but this will give the Hawks a real center, who was an all-star last year AND what looks to be a top 5 pick. /quote]

[SportsFan215]

Hawks fan here, what would you guys think of this:

I'm not sure where to put this, but would ATL have any interest in this type of deal in the offseason?

Kaman/Clippers 2011 First for Horford

There might need to be some other players involved for Horford's PPP/future BYC status, but this will give the Hawks a real center, who was an all-star last year AND what looks to be a top 5 pick. /quote]

Yes I thought that deal could possibly benefit both teams, since the Hawks need a real center and could use a high draft pick.

For the Clippers I absolutely love Horford, and I could easily see him, Blake, and DJ as as unstoppable trio inside for the next decade on the Clips. In addition, I think that the 2011 draft is going to be very weak, and I am not sold on guys like Barnes, P. Jones, T. Jones, etc. The only player that I really want is Kyrie Irving and I think he will stay at Duke until the 2012 draft when we will have the MIN pick and most likely our pick will also be top 10 still.

Ideally in 2yrs, I was thinking about a lineup like this:
Kyrie/Bledsoe
EJ/FA
FA/Aminu
Blake/FA
Horford/DJ

[PG3]

2011 nba draft day trade

Clippers trade
2011 1st round pick (will be a top 10 for sure)
Al Farouq Aminu
Chris Kaman

Pacers trade
Danny Granger
Dahntay Jones

Clippers 2011-2012 lineup

PG. Eric Bledsoe/Baron Davis
SG. Eric Gordon
SF. Danny Granger
PF. Blake Griffin
C. Deandre Jordan

sure fire contender in the West.

[SportsFan215]

2011 nba draft day trade

Clippers trade
2011 1st round pick (will be a top 10 for sure)
Al Farouq Aminu
Chris Kaman

Pacers trade
Danny Granger
Dahntay Jones

Clippers 2011-2012 lineup

PG. Eric Bledsoe/Baron Davis
SG. Eric Gordon
SF. Danny Granger
PF. Blake Griffin
C. Deandre Jordan

sure fire contender in the West.

Not a bad deal. Personally, I would rather go for Horford over Granger, since good big men are harder to come by, and Horford is 4 years younger than Granger, but I still absolutely love Granger's game.

[Det the Threat]

Hawks fan here, what would you guys think of this:

I'm not sure where to put this, but would ATL have any interest in this type of deal in the offseason?

Kaman/Clippers 2011 First for Horford

There might need to be some other players involved for Horford's PPP/future BYC status, but this will give the Hawks a real center, who was an all-star last year AND what looks to be a top 5 pick.

Depends on where we're drafting and how the draft will shape up.

Though, with that lockout looming I wouldn't mind it, cause Horford would be really good next to Blake.

Still, too bad it doesn't works money wise, as Horford's still on his rookie contract on draft day and when his new deal kicks in he'll be a BYC contract, which is very tough to trade, especially without other contracts being involved.

So that deal won''t be possible at that point.

2011 nba draft day trade

Clippers trade
2011 1st round pick (will be a top 10 for sure)
Al Farouq Aminu
Chris Kaman

Pacers trade
Danny Granger
Dahntay Jones

Clippers 2011-2012 lineup

PG. Eric Bledsoe/Baron Davis
SG. Eric Gordon
SF. Danny Granger
PF. Blake Griffin
C. Deandre Jordan

sure fire contender in the West.

Why should we give up all of that for Danny Granger?

Aminu's showing some promise, that pick could turn out to be a high lottery pick which might net us a good talent and Kaman's still our starting center who then would have a huge expiring contract, which is something other teams would really like.

[SportsFan215]

Well the way we are playing right now, the pick could very well be more like 5-10, in which I would be very open to dealing it for an upgrade.

[donemilio21]

If we traded Kaman for Horford we would still have the same problem as Hawks now. 2 PFs. We should use Kaman to get a good SF and a backup center.

I'd be willing to do Kaman + Aminu + 2 picks for Granger and Hibbert.

[SportsFan215]

If we traded Kaman for Horford we would still have the same problem as Hawks now. 2 PFs. We should use Kaman to get a good SF and a backup center.

I'd be willing to do Kaman + Aminu + 2 picks for Granger and Hibbert.

I don't think we would have that problem, because we would also have DeAndre. A Blake/Horford/DJ big man rotation would be very very good IMO.

[Recently]

I would give up almost anything for horford, hes horribly underrated by atl fans i think.

I don't think the pacers would want kaman (even though it seems they got a white guy fetish), since they already got hibbert.

The atl trade could work since having a true big would help atl defend the bigs in bos/orl, but i dunno if they would actually do something like that since horford is pretty damn good.

[Det the Threat]

I would give up almost anything for horford, hes horribly underrated by atl fans i think.

I don't think the pacers would want kaman (even though it seems they got a white guy fetish), since they already got hibbert.

The atl trade could work since having a true big would help atl defend the bigs in bos/orl, but i dunno if they would actually do something like that since horford is pretty damn good.

I'm sorry, but Horford's low post defense >>>> Kaman's low post defense.

Trading Horford for Kaman would make the Hawks a worse defensive team, as he's their anchor in the middle, even while being undersized for the center position.


BTW: Another idea at the trading deadline.

Kaman, Baron

for

Yao, Jeffries, Brooks

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5787672

They didn't sign Brooks to a long term deal this summer, which makes him a RFA after this season and might mean that they aren't as high on him.
Yao and Jeffries would help to save $, while Yao could even be re-signed(on the cheap) next offseason and help with those merchandising $($terling would love that) out of China.

Would they be willing to take on Baron, if they could upgrade their frontcourt with Kaman?

[scoobs07]

I love Aaron Brooks, but it seems like we need a tall point guard next to Eric Gordan at all times. It would be great to be relieved of Baron's contract and get expiring in return though. I would rather get Hill back in the trade though and then turn around And trade Butler and Smith to Washington for Hinrich. The Clippers would then have a tall point guard that coukd shoot and defend either guard position.

[jgustav1]

BTW: Another idea at the trading deadline.

Kaman, Baron

for

Yao, Jeffries, Brooks

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5787672

They didn't sign Brooks to a long term deal this summer, which makes him a RFA after this season and might mean that they aren't as high on him.
Yao and Jeffries would help to save $, while Yao could even be re-signed(on the cheap) next offseason and help with those merchandising $($terling would love that) out of China.

Would they be willing to take on Baron, if they could upgrade their frontcourt with Kaman?

Why would the Clippers be considering that type of trade? Yao can't be counted on to ever play again, Jeffries only has value since he is expiring and Brooks is a RFA who could easily leave for free at season's end. You have a lot more faith than I do in the Clippers ability to sign FAs, given the fact that our cap space went to players like Gomes, Foye and Cook this offseason.

I just don't understand the logic in trading Kaman and Davis right now, essentially giving up on making improvements to end the season and counting on free agency to replace them. Look at last night's game, Jordan played well with a lot of blocks but Kaman may have been more effective on Jefferson than Diogu and the other players who guarded him. Davis is needed, he is the only decent passer out of the backcourt on this team. If they decide to move Kaman, I hope it at the end of the year after he and Blake have a chance to play together for a half season.

[Det the Threat]

Why we would do such a deal?

Because of Baron Davis and his contract.
Getting rid of that means having a real chance to build around Gordon and Griffin right now and being able to add some more pieces that really fit to next to them.

Of course FA isn't the cure to fill all those open spots on the roster, but we could sign some guys and would be able, which is very more important, to do a lot of trades.
We could add some salary and a young talented player and/or draft picks just like Sam Presti did it with the Thunder and that, to me, is the way to go.
There's also a chance of some team having a hard time getting under the cap of that new CBA and giving up a very good(and fitting) player for just some cap space.

And on top of that we'd be able to get Aaron Brooks out of that deal and he's a guy that could help at something we're desperatly searching for, for years, which is scoring off the bench. Sure he'd like to start, but we could start Bledsoe and bring Brooks off the bench for some instant scoring.
We'd then have to decide on how much he's worth to us to be that guy and even if we can't come to terms with him, we could still either re-sign him for the QO or get something else out of a sign and trade deal.

BTW: I understand we're you're coming from and I'm with you on that for trades that send out Kaman alone for some expirings and nothing else. But getting rid of Baron Davis(while not taking on crap contracts) would be worth trading Kaman IMO.
We're not a playoff team this season(with or without Baron and even Kaman) and we'll only be as good as Blake and EJ are going to become.