2019 - 2021 Free-Agents

[esqtvd]

Thread title should just say 2019 Free Agents.

These guys aren't signing here.

It's the draft thread that's the real waste of cyberink, LOL. If we make the playoffs, we forfeit our pick, and even if we don't, when we draft somewhere in the teens, whoever the pick is won't even be in the thread for another 6 months at least.

I was taking a look at the stats for what's been played of the season so far, and I wouldn't advise you to lose sight of the draft so early

I'm afraid a lot of what's working for us is not all that sustainable. Offensively, we are shooting an unsustainable 38.3% from 3 (3rd best in the league), even though we are one of the teams that shoots the less 3's in the league (only more than the Spurs and Cavs) and we're shooting more than half our 3 pointers from the corner, only team in the league to do that and with a big advantage over the 2nd most (Warriors) and a huge advantage over the 3rd (Blazers). Hard to sustain that too. We are also getting to the line the most in the league, nearly 2% more than the 2nd team, and almost double the times than the Celtics or the Magic. We have some guys that make a living on the line, but not enough to have this big an advantage at the end of the day. We don't have a Harden or a Westbrook to do that. Defensively, we are forcing teams to shoot the worse percentage out of the 30 teams (48.7 eFG%) but we are forcing the least turnovers in the whole league. It all feels as if when shots stop to go in and teams get a little bit more lucky, we're gonna be where we were supposed to. Not taking anything from the team, as they're doing what they're supposed to a lot better than expected, but I don't expect it to last the whole season.

Plus, this time last year, both draftexpress and nbadraft.net had 10 out of 14 lottery picks nailed already (coincidentally neither of ours).

But yeah, I'm looking forward to both free agency and the draft, whether it ends up working out or not, they're putting us in a good position for both.

I'm not going to disagree with you about the [possible/probable] unsustainability of our current success.

Remember when we ran off that 17-game winning streak in December 2012? [Of course you do. ] A veteran team beat up on a bunch of young teams who didn't have their [stuff] together yet. But we played .500 the rest of the way.

Still, we look to finish in the teens, or no lower than around 8th, I'd think. Investing so much time in discussing 10-20 or more guys, each of whom we have somewhere between a zero-to-7% chance of drafting seems a huge waste of time and effort, but hey, let Ramna knock himself out.

I didn't follow any of it last year and still targeted Shai in the weeks before the draft. And few if any got Jerome, although as the draft played out, it was not the longshot the draft "experts" made it out to be. So it goes.

[Quake Griffin]

I'd love to see proof (a quote) of ESPNtv wanting Shai....even around draft time.
Pretty sure we can find proof of him crapping on the 13th pick via a list of who was drafted there in the past.

I only remember ESPN wanting to trade the 13 for Derozan (unbelievable).
FFW to Shai looking like he's working out and now, he targeted him at draft time.

LOL.

[esqtvd]

I'd love to see proof (a quote) of ESPNtv wanting Shai....even around draft time.
Pretty sure we can find proof of him crapping on the 13th pick via a list of who was drafted there in the past.

I only remember ESPN wanting to trade the 13 for Derozan (unbelievable).
FFW to Shai looking like he's working out and now, he targeted him at draft time.

LOL.

I said unless Jerry had his sights set on someone in particular, yes DeRozan was worth looking at with the pick, damn right

I also said I was VERY interested in a 6'6" PG

and also said that Shai might have aced the interview at the combine so much that the Clippers were slow-playing their interest in him

which is exactly what they did by not working him out until late in the process

and I gave trading 2 future SRPs to trade up one lousy pick to make sure we got Shai a BIG THUMBS UP


so maybe you should troll somebody else, bro

[Quake Griffin]

You were more happy they made a move with conviction ( and the SRPs showed it) than you were about Shai. You were not repping Shai even shortly after he was drafted.

Stop trying to convince people that you ended up in the same place on draft night as the rest of us who were hoping for Shai for a while leading up to the draft.

Nobody’s buying it.

LOLing at the “experts” to take a dig at people here who enjoy the draft and calling someone else a troll....that’s rich.


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[esqtvd]

You were more happy they made a move with conviction ( and the SRPs showed it) than you were about Shai. You were not repping Shai even shortly after he was drafted.

Stop trying to convince people that you ended up in the same place on draft night as the rest of us who were hoping for Shai for a while leading up to the draft.

Nobody’s buying it.

LOLing at the “experts” to take a dig at people here who enjoy the draft and calling someone else a troll....that’s rich.


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ah your REAL agenda
so that's why you're trolling me

with no facts about what I actually said about Shai

I don't think I ever showed any interest in any other player
in fact, I said I didn't want Robert Williams after he proved to be a dog


but the fact is,what I said here is true

Still, we look to finish in the teens, or no lower than around 8th, I'd think. Investing so much time in discussing 10-20 or more guys, each of whom we have somewhere between a zero-to-7% chance of drafting seems a huge waste of time and effort

so unless you want to argue against the math
kindly get of my face, bro

thx

[Quake Griffin]

First comment on this issue says, I’d love to see proof (a quote) of ESPNtv repping Shai even around draft time.

No proof has been provided.

I think we know why.


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[QRich3]

Still, we look to finish in the teens, or no lower than around 8th, I'd think. Investing so much time in discussing 10-20 or more guys, each of whom we have somewhere between a zero-to-7% chance of drafting seems a huge waste of time and effort

lol as if we had anything better to do

Nah, following prospects is one of the most fun parts of the NBA, and the main reason I watch any college basketball at all. All that time I spent following guys like Gani Lawal or Rodney Williams is completely worthless in the end, but the point is it was fun. Not much different than following the Clippers, or sports in general, tbh.

[esqtvd]

Still, we look to finish in the teens, or no lower than around 8th, I'd think. Investing so much time in discussing 10-20 or more guys, each of whom we have somewhere between a zero-to-7% chance of drafting seems a huge waste of time and effort

lol as if we had anything better to do

Nah, following prospects is one of the most fun parts of the NBA, and the main reason I watch any college basketball at all. All that time I spent following guys like Gani Lawal or Rodney Williams is completely worthless in the end, but the point is it was fun. Not much different than following the Clippers, or sports in general, tbh.

OK, you agree with me, tbh

thx

All that time I spent following guys like Gani Lawal or Rodney Williams is completely worthless in the end

yah
but rock on

I don't mind that it clogs our board a little even though it's 93%-100% off-topic

it was just an observation
in one comment,
not even on the draft thread
not a big deal

I don't want to go to war about it

knock yerselves out
i don't want to ruin anyboy's fun

[esqtvd]

First comment on this issue says, I’d love to see proof (a quote) of ESPNtv repping Shai even around draft time.

No proof has been provided.

I think we know why.


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I'm not going to defend myself from a troll
I don't owe you 'proof' of my innocence
I don't owe you the time of day, Quake

if you gonna troll ne
put in some work

or please kindly


get out of my face

[QRich3]

Still, we look to finish in the teens, or no lower than around 8th, I'd think. Investing so much time in discussing 10-20 or more guys, each of whom we have somewhere between a zero-to-7% chance of drafting seems a huge waste of time and effort

lol as if we had anything better to do

Nah, following prospects is one of the most fun parts of the NBA, and the main reason I watch any college basketball at all. All that time I spent following guys like Gani Lawal or Rodney Williams is completely worthless in the end, but the point is it was fun. Not much different than following the Clippers, or sports in general, tbh.

OK, you agree with me after all, Quake, tbh

All that time I spent following guys like Gani Lawal or Rodney Williams is completely worthless in the end

yah
but rock on

I don't mind that it clogs our board a little even though it's 93%-100% off-topic

it was just an observation
in one comment,
not even on the draft thread
not a big deal

I don't want to go to war about it

knock yerselves out
i don't want to ruin anyboy's fun

lol I've no clue what you're on about, but I'm part of no war, or any "yourselves" group you wanna put me into. Haven't even read your back and forth with Quake, or have any interest in it. I do find it amusing when you quote some sentence in my post and go on to say "I'm glad you agree with..." and then mention some unrelated thing but more in an endearing way than a controversial one

[Ranma]

Maybe the Clippers aren't the favorites even over the Lakers since I mentioned before how much easier it would be for Durant to get the adoration he so seeks from Lakers fans, but we're certainly more favorable than the Wizards, Spurs, Mavericks, and Nets. How much would I win if I bet $100 on the Clippers with this betting line? $5,000?

I, personally, don't think we'll get Durant this off-season since Kawhi will be the priority, but we have a legitimate shot at him and 50-1 odds seem absurd to me, if I'm reading the betting line correctly.

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Andrew Sharp, Sports Illustrated (11/15/18)

According to one report, Green "repeatedly called Kevin Durant a b***ch" in a display that prompted one Warrior to say, "with what was said, there is already no way Durant is coming back."

SCENARIO NO. 4: DURANT TO THE CLIPPERS

This is the more successful older sibling of Durant Knicks rumors. The Clippers also give Durant a massive platform, all kinds of business opportunities, and his own team to carry through to the playoffs, where he can prove skeptics wrong. The difference here is that the Clippers already have a vibrant collection of young talent, a savvy front office, and an owner who will spend whatever it takes to win. Also, that owner isn't James Dolan. Don't count out the Clippers.

Where Will Kevin Durant and the Warriors Go From Here?

[Quake Griffin]

Why would he sign on to play WITH LeBron?

He's been pretty clear over the last 5 years that he wants to beat the guy and be viewed as the best player in the league.

[Ranma]

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[Quake Griffin]

I don’t get how the money works for Anthony Davis.

Are we intentionally leaving an FA on the table to keep room for Davis?

Isnt Trezz up for a pay day in 2020?


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[Quake Griffin]

"Kawhi was a great player, but he wasn't a leader," Popovich told reporters Saturday. "Manu [Ginobili] and Patty [Mills] were the leaders. Kawhi's talent will always be missed, but leadership wasn't his deal at the time. That may come as he progresses. Patty and Manu filled that role for us last year. LaMarcus [Aldridge] came a long way as a leader also."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2807641-gregg-popovich-says-kawhi-leonard-wasnt-a-leader-with-spurs

[Ranma]

I agree with Pop, for the most part, but one could make the case that Kawhi leads by example. However, given the way he departed San Antonio, that can be countered by the questionable behavior he exhibited under the influence of his uncle. Even still, he's been a model citizen in Toronto so far.

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[mkwest]

With strong roster in place, Clippers eyeing star free agents to build true contender

Last summer, the Clippers approached forward Tobias Harris with an offer of a contract extension, one worth $80 million over four years. Harris turned it down, but he was hardly the only piece the team was looking to lock up for a longer term. LA gave two-year deals to guard Avery Bradley ($25 million) and forward Montrezl Harrell, a bargain at $12 million, and gave an in-season extension of three years and $24 million to guard Lou Williams.

Additionally, a source told Sporting News, the Clippers also discussed an extension with guard Patrick Beverley, even as he was rehabbing from knee surgery. Like Harris, Beverley opted to play out his final season and test free agency next summer.

Besides, the Clippers may have bigger targets in their sights. The team is keeping close watch on Kevin Durant’s happiness level with the Warriors and, according to league sources, has every intention of making a pitch to Durant in July. Durant is expected to give the Clippers a hearing. Moving to Los Angeles and setting up a crosstown rivalry with LeBron James and the Lakers is something Durant would at least have to consider.

The Clippers will need to fork out much more than the $80 million they offered to Harris this summer to keep him in free agency, but they can still sign a top free agent and re-sign Harris. They’ll also look to re-sign center Boban Marjanovic and Beverley, who will also be free agents.

Sean Deveney, The Sporting News

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Joe Morgan, Sporting News (12/1/18)

One big reason for the Clippers' hot streak through the first quarter of the season is the inability of opponents to focus on a single player. Five different players average more than 10 points per game. It’s also an approach that makes the Clippers one of the most likable teams in the league, something that could not always be said during the "Lob City" era. (How bad did it get? Bleacher Report's Howard Beck wrote a story in 2015 with the headline "Why Everyone in the NBA Hates the Los Angeles Clippers.")

"We’re a team. We play off of each other and we have fun playing together," Harris said. "Everybody enjoys playing with one another and making plays. The beauty of our team is that we have different guys every night who can step up and give us life."

No superstars on the roster also means no egos in the locker room. The result is a collection of talent that can both produce results and appreciate the process.

"You can just see it by the way we play," Rivers told Sporting News. "When I brought it up before the season, people didn’t know what I was talking about. They play the game with joy. They play the game like the fans would like to play."

And that style of play might not be a fluke. The Clippers are fifth in the NBA in net rating (5.3) and fourth in true shooting percentage (57.8), and opponents are shooting a league-low 43.5 percent when facing them, including 33.0 percent from the 3-point line. They also boast the highest-scoring bench unit in the NBA at 53.8 points per game.

How Starless Clippers Emerged from 'Lob City' Era Better Than Ever