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Re: GAME THREAD - Now it counts. Playoff #1 vs. Mavs 6 p.m. PST ESPN 

Post#141 » by esqtvd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:18 am

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Max Headrom wrote:There's a reason Doc has a ring and more wins than Red Auerbach in the regular season now.

Yeah, he's been given a bunch of stacked teams.



And Red Auerbach didn't?????????

Nippy Sudz is correct: Lob City just didn't have the right stuff. CP was not a leader who anybody wanted to follow, and Blake was all about Blake, just not the real Prime Time Player Chris needed to lean on. Like Barkley said, when your toughest player is only 6 foot tall you're in trouble.

Now we have a real leader, with a right-hand man who's better than Blake ever was. And Pat and Trezz, who have more guts and toughness than anybody on Lob City.


So---now are you going to ruin these playoffs for everybody with this garbage like you ruined the regular season? We were hoping you learned your lesson after we finished with the 2-seed anyway despite your constant whining and vulturing. Facts and arguments are one thing but trolling is quite another.


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Your hatred of Doc is just getting boring. If you want others to see his alleged incompetence, please bring specifics not rhetoric. Who knows, maybe you'll convert more of us?

Tonight, you had the full roster for the 12 time this season... except they all weren't 100%. Several players on minute restrictions.

The main thing I saw was that somebody bigger needs to be guarding Doncic, Pat Bev even though a beast just isn't big enough. Is that idiot coaching? I would think you can give us more than that to work on.


C'mon, bro. Like Kawhi says, enjoy the journey. :wink:
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Post#142 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:20 am

good point about morris. We have to build chemistry,, not chop it down. the people who think so are crazy.
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Post#143 » by nickhx2 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:46 am

i was really not liking MM's contributions very early into the game. very chucky etc. but he ended up being a really key player and my hope is he's finally settling into his role, because if lou/jackson are gonna play poorly, and harrell/bev are still rusty we really need that 3rd guy to play well.
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Post#144 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:47 am

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Post#145 » by nickhx2 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:50 am

now, ideally harrell gets back up to speed over the next couple games, as does beverley. we really need the former to be beasting off the bench, and we need the latter to not be too psycho in the first half picking up bad fouls. just those two guys alone playing at a high level give us what we need to make the finals.

i kinda expect williams to be meh, since he's been meh all season. same with shamet. but if we get the two above guys playing well along with MM, this team will fare quite well.
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Post#146 » by Clemenza » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:58 am

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playaloc916 wrote:I didn't really want to say it, but I'm almost getting some Jerome Robinson vibes from him... Has a very promising rookie season, and then regresses the next year... I hope whatever funk he's in, he snaps out of it soon, because it would be huge if we had another reliable 3 point threat.

Its just a different team with Kawhi and PG here now as opposed to last season where there was no pressure on the team whatsoever. I don't know what to make of Shamet right now. Some threes from him would put us over the top easily especially how bad Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson, and at times Lou Will played tonight. Doc probably won't do it but I'd put Mann ahead of Jackson in the rotation. At least he'll go all out on the defensive end and rebound.. and tbh Reggie Jackson is a vet but he really doesn't have that much playoff experience either. And please don't tell me Doc is back to not playing Zu in 4th quarters.. especially now since he's improving, Trez is rusty and out of shape, plus it keeps Luka out of the paint more which means he'll have to resort to taking his long range three attempts. Good games from Kawhi, PG, and Morris.. and Zu when he played.

I wouldn't put mann in. He's a rookie. I don't think he's proven he can handle that type of assignment. This isn't the regular season. They're going to be studying this game. Someone like Lebron is going to cook that dude. Reggie just needs to get his **** get together. He's doing a lot of bone head stuff. Hand in the cookie jar dumb type fouls. His rotations suck too. Mann is a SG in college that came to be a PG in the pros as a 2nd rnd draft pick and people expect him to have a significant role. Idk, I don't buy it. I mean its possible but I just don't buy it.

I'm talking spot minutes here not handing the pg duties over to him full time. And all time greats like LeBron has torched some of the biggest names in basketball over the course of his 17 year career. Lets be fair and not switch the narrative by bringing up hall of fame players when a guy like Mann in reality would be guarding a JJ Barea, Tim Hardaway Jr., Seth Curry, etc. I'm pulling for Reggie to play well but watching the lackluster play of Pat Bev and then him being relieved by an even worse Reggie Jackson was torture to watch tonight. That cool nonchalant style is not going to cut it in the post season. Even Pat Bev waving off his replacement to only stay in the game and take a bad three then miss two free throws late in the game is ridiculous. Just give me a decent stretch of some competent guard play for five to ten minutes.
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Post#147 » by esqtvd » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:12 am

NippySudz wrote:good point about morris. We have to build chemistry,, not chop it down. the people who think so are crazy.


Doc shows faith in people. Much better than a coach who yanks you and berates you.

Hopefully, Marcus Senior is his latest success. Tonight he was easily our 3rd best player after a stumbling start as a Clipper. VERY cool.

And Reggie was playing great before the break--Doc styled him in as the 1 to Lou's 2 and Reggie shot over 40% from distance. But Pat going down with the calf injury put Reggie in as the starter at PG to see what he could do. Not well, as it turned out---and now he's struggling to get back in harmony with Lou--while trying to work Trezz back in!!

Can we give the man a moment to breathe? I still don't think Reggie's a starter-level NBA PG--and I think he just proved it--but as a Darren Collison for us, I won't be surprised to see him in a Clipper uni again next year, especially with the depressed salary cap.

And I think Reggie's gonna win us a playoff game this year. So there! :wink:
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Post#148 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:55 am

Clemenza wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Clemenza wrote:Its just a different team with Kawhi and PG here now as opposed to last season where there was no pressure on the team whatsoever. I don't know what to make of Shamet right now. Some threes from him would put us over the top easily especially how bad Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson, and at times Lou Will played tonight. Doc probably won't do it but I'd put Mann ahead of Jackson in the rotation. At least he'll go all out on the defensive end and rebound.. and tbh Reggie Jackson is a vet but he really doesn't have that much playoff experience either. And please don't tell me Doc is back to not playing Zu in 4th quarters.. especially now since he's improving, Trez is rusty and out of shape, plus it keeps Luka out of the paint more which means he'll have to resort to taking his long range three attempts. Good games from Kawhi, PG, and Morris.. and Zu when he played.

I wouldn't put mann in. He's a rookie. I don't think he's proven he can handle that type of assignment. This isn't the regular season. They're going to be studying this game. Someone like Lebron is going to cook that dude. Reggie just needs to get his **** get together. He's doing a lot of bone head stuff. Hand in the cookie jar dumb type fouls. His rotations suck too. Mann is a SG in college that came to be a PG in the pros as a 2nd rnd draft pick and people expect him to have a significant role. Idk, I don't buy it. I mean its possible but I just don't buy it.

I'm talking spot minutes here not handing the pg duties over to him full time. And all time greats like LeBron has torched some of the biggest names in basketball over the course of his 17 year career. Lets be fair and not switch the narrative by bringing up hall of fame players when a guy like Mann in reality would be guarding a JJ Barea, Tim Hardaway Jr., Seth Curry, etc. I'm pulling for Reggie to play well but watching the lackluster play of Pat Bev and then him being relieved by an even worse Reggie Jackson was torture to watch tonight. That cool nonchalant style is not going to cut it in the post season. Even Pat Bev waving off his replacement to only stay in the game and take a bad three then miss two free throws late in the game is ridiculous. Just give me a decent stretch of some competent guard play for five to ten minutes.
The replacement was trez who had a horrible game which is fair because trez hasn't played basketball since March

I'm thinking big picture. You can think small if you want to. LeBron hunts for matchups. If we move on, we're going to eventually face them. A rookie like Mann I don't see being good as the playoffs progress. It makes no sense to blow it up after game 1 work a full roster back together for the first time.

Do you guys want the clippers to get any rhythm going at all or do you want to keep changing stuff the min adversity hits?

If it were up to you guys morris wouldn't be playing

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Post#149 » by TrueLAfan » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:39 pm

I love having Kawhi’s toughness and leadership. But—make no mistake—the guy that has been coming through down the stretch is Paul George. He’s been a monster in the fourth quarters in the bubble—especially since the Laker game. Here’s what he’s done in that period in the fourth quarters:

51 minutes, 42 points, 7 rebounds, 8 assists, .640 FG%, .400 FT%, .667 FT%, 1 TO

And that is exactly what we need and every team should be afraid of. It doesn’t matter if you consider him a 1a with Kawhi, or a Robin … averaging 30-5-5.5 per 36 in 4th quarters on ridiculous efficiency and playing great D is getting it done in a massive way. When both PG and Kawhi are on, we’re close to unstoppable. And just the threat of that—teams knowing we’ve got that double barreled shotgun—makes things so much easier for others. Look at PGs 4th quarter assist numbers. He’s not just scoring well; he’s distributing well. That helps Lou and Trezz and Morris and Sham and everybody.
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Post#150 » by MartinRiggs » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:09 pm

I looks like corona break was good thing for PG. His shoulders are probably at 100% now,and also he was having leg injuries before.
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Post#151 » by SK21209 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:14 pm

I agree that it's too early to excise Reggie from the rotation, but I really hope Doc doesn't hesitate to do so if Reggie continues to struggle in later rounds.
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Post#152 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pm

SK21209 wrote:I agree that it's too early to excise Reggie from the rotation, but I really hope Doc doesn't hesitate to do so if Reggie continues to struggle in later rounds.
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Post#153 » by og15 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:36 pm

It's too early to remove anyone from the rotation, coaches can't just be shuffling the deck all the time. Certainly if you're in later rounds and a player is struggling, you might need to pull the plug but an earlier round like this is when you want to try and get a guy who can be useful going.

TrueLAfan, very good point on Paul George down the stretch, it has been pleasant to watch. I was recently telling someone on the GB that people have over exaggerated Paul George's last two playoffs with OKC and made it seem like he does not produce. His overall numbers in his two playoffs have been very good, his Utah series was really just killed by that game 6, and his Portland series was fine even though they lost, even his game 5, 36/9/3/70% FG and +6 while he was on the court.

Too many people still fall for the analysis by game results, vs actual performance.
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Post#154 » by nickhx2 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:13 pm

great points about PG. he was huge last night and it was obvious.

i do think the break gave him the time he needed to fully recover and it's evident. aside from that dorky T he had early in the game i thought he was practically flawless.
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Post#155 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:25 pm

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Post#156 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:07 pm

Kelphus wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
Max Headrom wrote:There's a reason Doc has a ring and more wins than Red Auerbach in the regular season now.

Yeah, he's been given a bunch of stacked teams.

There's also a reason he's blown more playoff series leads than any other coach. He's stubborn to a fault and doesn't adjust.


Your hatred of Doc is just getting boring. If you want others to see his alleged incompetence, please bring specifics not rhetoric. Who knows, maybe you'll convert more of us?

Tonight, you had the full roster for the 12 time this season... except they all weren't 100%. Several players on minute restrictions.

The main thing I saw was that somebody bigger needs to be guarding Doncic, Pat Bev even though a beast just isn't big enough. Is that idiot coaching? I would think you can give us more than that to work on.

if they win the championship, he's going to use that excuse. Doc is not a good coach. The clippers just were a stack team. :crazy:
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Post#157 » by MartinToVaught » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:45 pm

NippySudz wrote:
Kelphus wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Yeah, he's been given a bunch of stacked teams.

There's also a reason he's blown more playoff series leads than any other coach. He's stubborn to a fault and doesn't adjust.


Your hatred of Doc is just getting boring. If you want others to see his alleged incompetence, please bring specifics not rhetoric. Who knows, maybe you'll convert more of us?

Tonight, you had the full roster for the 12 time this season... except they all weren't 100%. Several players on minute restrictions.

The main thing I saw was that somebody bigger needs to be guarding Doncic, Pat Bev even though a beast just isn't big enough. Is that idiot coaching? I would think you can give us more than that to work on.

if they win the championship, he's going to use that excuse. Doc is not a good coach. The clippers just were a stack team. :crazy:

If they win the championship, I don't give a damn who's coaching. But until then, I'm not about to overlook seven seasons of the same routine.
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Post#158 » by NippySudz » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:56 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Kelphus wrote:
Your hatred of Doc is just getting boring. If you want others to see his alleged incompetence, please bring specifics not rhetoric. Who knows, maybe you'll convert more of us?

Tonight, you had the full roster for the 12 time this season... except they all weren't 100%. Several players on minute restrictions.

The main thing I saw was that somebody bigger needs to be guarding Doncic, Pat Bev even though a beast just isn't big enough. Is that idiot coaching? I would think you can give us more than that to work on.

if they win the championship, he's going to use that excuse. Doc is not a good coach. The clippers just were a stack team. :crazy:

If they win the championship, I don't give a damn who's coaching. But until then, I'm not about to overlook seven seasons of the same routine.

Your favorite coach btw is losing to the orlando magic right now.
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Post#159 » by Clemenza » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:51 pm

NippySudz wrote:
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NippySudz wrote:I wouldn't put mann in. He's a rookie. I don't think he's proven he can handle that type of assignment. This isn't the regular season. They're going to be studying this game. Someone like Lebron is going to cook that dude. Reggie just needs to get his **** get together. He's doing a lot of bone head stuff. Hand in the cookie jar dumb type fouls. His rotations suck too. Mann is a SG in college that came to be a PG in the pros as a 2nd rnd draft pick and people expect him to have a significant role. Idk, I don't buy it. I mean its possible but I just don't buy it.

I'm talking spot minutes here not handing the pg duties over to him full time. And all time greats like LeBron has torched some of the biggest names in basketball over the course of his 17 year career. Lets be fair and not switch the narrative by bringing up hall of fame players when a guy like Mann in reality would be guarding a JJ Barea, Tim Hardaway Jr., Seth Curry, etc. I'm pulling for Reggie to play well but watching the lackluster play of Pat Bev and then him being relieved by an even worse Reggie Jackson was torture to watch tonight. That cool nonchalant style is not going to cut it in the post season. Even Pat Bev waving off his replacement to only stay in the game and take a bad three then miss two free throws late in the game is ridiculous. Just give me a decent stretch of some competent guard play for five to ten minutes.
The replacement was trez who had a horrible game which is fair because trez hasn't played basketball since March

I'm thinking big picture. You can think small if you want to. LeBron hunts for matchups. If we move on, we're going to eventually face them. A rookie like Mann I don't see being good as the playoffs progress. It makes no sense to blow it up after game 1 work a full roster back together for the first time.

Do you guys want the clippers to get any rhythm going at all or do you want to keep changing stuff the min adversity hits?

If it were up to you guys morris wouldn't be playing

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I'm not talking Bron.. Hell they might not even get past Portland. And of course Doc wouldn't put Mann in against Bron. Reggie will get more than enough leeway to play better but I wouldn't give him free reign to do whatever if he struggles in future playoff games. I really wouldn't give him that much sh*t if we have a better starting guard ahead of him.
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Post#160 » by Max Headrom » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:25 pm

NippySudz wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
NippySudz wrote:if they win the championship, he's going to use that excuse. Doc is not a good coach. The clippers just were a stack team. :crazy:

If they win the championship, I don't give a damn who's coaching. But until then, I'm not about to overlook seven seasons of the same routine.

Your favorite coach btw is losing to the orlando magic right now.


Low blow, low blow...lol

Seriously though, imagine if Doc were in that same position. I can't even imagine the type of rant we would see here

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