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Post#1421 » by Butter » Wed Jan 5, 2011 1:15 am

scoobs07 wrote:It would be intersting to see what the 2010 pick, 2011 pick and 2011 Twolves pick would get us combined with some of our players. I think the Clippers should do a deal and try to make a serious run this season.


Would the Clippers be interested in dumping the Baron Davis Contract and the TWolves pick for expiring contracts and some possible filler pieces?

The Blazers could potentially do something like:

Portland Trades:
Andre Miller
Joel Pryzbilla
filler

LA Clippers Trade:
Baron Davis
filler
2012 Twolves pick
Rip City, baby!!!!
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Post#1422 » by SportsFan215 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 1:30 am

^ It's not worth giving up the wolves pick to move Baron for expirings. Plus I bet the only thing the Clippers and Andre Miller would agree on is that they never would want to bring him back to the Clips.
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Post#1423 » by parson » Wed Jan 5, 2011 1:51 am

SportsFan215 wrote:We would have no interest in Jamal Crawford, as he would take playing time away from Eric Gordon. I was the one who was leading the Al Horford train, when I came up with the Kaman/unprotected 1st for Horford. I understand if many Hawks fans do not like that idea, because of everything that Horford brings. Also, that type of deal wouldn't work financially anyways with Horford's PPP/future BYC status. In that case I would actually add in a Bledsoe for Bibby swap to make the salaries work and maybe sway the Hawks more. Not sure if other Clipper fans would agree with me though, but a Gordon, Blake, Horford core would be sick. So now I would expand the deal to:

Kaman/Bledsoe/'11 FIrst (Unprotected) for Horford/Bibby

Jamal is a one-and-a-half, he plays well with PGs AND SGs. He'd play the point with Gordon and the 2 with Davis. However, at his best, he's instant offense for the 2nd team. He's become a major part of our team, just by out-scoring other teams' entire bench. He's a super 6th man; we wouldn't think of using him as a starter. How many teams have a bench player who can add 15-20 points each night WITHOUT getting in the way of the starters? In that role, he's a fine player and my offering of him was a good-faith trade proposal. Jamal is a superior bench player to either Jordan or Kaman, so, unless you're going to start both of them, Crawford would be an upgrade for you.

The only player y'all have to justify an Al Horford trade is Griffin, who is, of course, untouchable. Trying to "sweeten" a Horford trade would be like me trying to add sweeteners to get Griffin. Not gunna happen.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1424 » by jgustav1 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:56 am

parson wrote:I don't know who that "Hawks fan" is, but please know that we consider Horford our best player. We think Horford is one of the 20 best players in the NBA.

Kaman is not enough, even if an UNPROTECTED 1st were attached. Heck, we've gone around on a Josh Smith/Kaman trade, only to conclude Kaman doesn't add enough to our team for that, even if y'all sweetened the deal.


Don't worry, the Clippers wouldn't offer that much for Horford. He is a good player, but his best position is PF, where we already have Griffin.
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Post#1425 » by jgustav1 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:01 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:if you want Barbosa then expirings and a prospect or a 1st. Not Foye or anything like that, wed be looking to clear cap space.


Barbosa doesn't add that much to the Clippers and isn't worth his present contract, no interest on their side.
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Post#1426 » by jgustav1 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:04 am

scoobs07 wrote:It would be intersting to see what the 2010 pick, 2011 pick and 2011 Twolves pick would get us combined with some of our players. I think the Clippers should do a deal and try to make a serious run this season.


No it wouldn't. It is too late to be able to make a serious run this season and they shouldn't mortgage the future trading away future picks attempting to do it.
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Post#1427 » by scoobs07 » Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:53 pm

It's the sAme old thing every season. Fans get tired of that. They should at least try to get as respectable of a record as possible. They could do this by up grading the roster.
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Post#1428 » by ClipperDomination » Wed Jan 5, 2011 10:12 pm

I'm really warming up to the idea of acquiring Steve Nash via trade. Look at what he morphed Amare into...Nash/Blake anyone?

The million dollar question is: What's Nash's trade value?
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Post#1429 » by ClipperEric » Wed Jan 5, 2011 11:52 pm

^ Nash isn't for us. He's going to go someplace for one last chance to win. He's not coming to a losing team. We need a good young PG who can grow with Blake.
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Post#1430 » by SportsFan215 » Thu Jan 6, 2011 12:58 am

ClipperEric wrote:^ Nash isn't for us. He's going to go someplace for one last chance to win. He's not coming to a losing team. We need a good young PG who can grow with Blake.


Kyrie Irving or somehow trade for Chris Paul! :D
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Post#1431 » by SportsFan215 » Fri Jan 7, 2011 5:45 pm

I posted this idea on the trade board and so far it has received some positive comments. It would be a ton to give up but I'd like to hear what all of you think:

Clippers Get: Paul/Nocioni
Clippers Give: Kaman/Gordon/Aminu/Bledsoe

Yeah it hurts losing all of this talent, especially an up and coming all-star in Gordon, but I think CP3 definitely makes the Clippers a playoff team, and much closer to contending for a title (Yes I said contending for a title).

Hornets Get: Gordon/Bledsoe/Iggy
Hornets Give: Paul

The Hornets avoid a similar situation that Denver is in right now by trading CP3 away now and getting a ton a value for him. Like I said above, Gordon is an up and coming all-star, Iggy would complement Gordon extremely well and could easily regain his all-star form. Plus Bledsoe has shown some good progress so far and could grow into the PG role there. This would create a big 3 of Gordon, Iggy, and West in New Orleans. Plus, Iggy and Gordon played together this summer, which could benefit that pair even more.

Sixers Get: Kaman/Aminu
Sixers Give: Iggy/Nocioni

The Sixers get their center, who was an all-star just last year, and I think just getting away from the horrid Clippers training staff would do wonders for his health. Aminu would be a good replacement for Iggy, as he has a ton of potential and has already started to show it in his all-around game. Also, they get rid of Nocioni's contract and cut about $4 million right away.


I just couldn't find a way to make a fair offer for CP3 without giving up EJ. IMO we need a legit PG to really take us to the next level with Blake. Also, after this deal I would probably deal Baron straight up for Rip Hamilton. Their contracts are very similar, but Rip would give us championship experience/veteran leadership, and would work well with CP3 in the back-court to go along with our already lethal Blake/DJ front-court duo.
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Post#1432 » by ClipperEric » Fri Jan 7, 2011 6:45 pm

^ I don't see this going thru unless we already have a plan to give up Baron.

And I'd hate to give up Gordon in any deal. I think he and Blake are the only non-tradeables.
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Post#1433 » by SportsFan215 » Fri Jan 7, 2011 10:24 pm

I think we could plan to deal Baron for Rip Hamilton to get a good fit at SG next to CP3.
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Post#1434 » by jgustav1 » Sat Jan 8, 2011 9:19 pm

SportsFan215 wrote:I posted this idea on the trade board and so far it has received some positive comments. It would be a ton to give up but I'd like to hear what all of you think:

Clippers Get: Paul/Nocioni
Clippers Give: Kaman/Gordon/Aminu/Bledsoe



I don't like the trade, since the Clippers still have Baron under contract and Paul can be an unrestricted FA after the 2012 season. I would like the Clippers to be in the bidding for Paul as a FA in the summer of 2012, if it makes sense considering who they pick up with the Minny pick in the June draft of that year.
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Post#1435 » by mike3 » Sun Jan 9, 2011 11:43 am

Obviously CP3 would be awesome but no way id wanna give up Gordon, even if it is CP3
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Post#1436 » by WiscoKing13 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:02 pm

what spots are you looking to upgrade?? and do you want maggette back :)?
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Post#1437 » by Det the Threat » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:20 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:what spots are you looking to upgrade?? and do you want maggette back :)?


We do need benchscoring, but not Maggette. ;)
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Re: Trade Idea Thread 

Post#1438 » by scoobs07 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:49 pm

The Clippers should offer Butler(2.4 million) and Warren(0.5 million) to SAC for Casspi(1.3 million) and Garcia(5.5 million).
Why would Clippers do this?
They upgrade the small forward position and back up shooting guard. Both players are 40% three point shooters and they each make almost 3 three pointers per 40 minutes. That is some serious three point shooting and would really help the bench as well. They are also good defensive players as well.

Why would the Kings do this?
The owners are having financial problems. This trade helps them financially in both the short and long term. They save 3.9 million right off the bat this season and they get out of paying Garcia 12.5 million for the next 2 seasons after that. The Clippers did a good job finding Warren in the 2nd round, but he
is too similar to Gordan and Foye. He kind of gets lost in the
shuffle. He might be able to help the Kings, though this trade
is mostly about finances for them.
Gomes or Aminu have the ability to play some power forward to help open up more minutes for these guys. In the future I would try to unload Gomes with perhaps Kaman and the TWolves pick, maybe at around draft time. In the mean time, the Clipps would be a super deep team.
PF-Griffin (36 min)
Sf-Casspi (24 min)
c-Jordan (30 min)
Pg-Davis (36 min)
Sg-Gordan (36 min)
Sf-Aminu (18 min)
Sg/sf-Garcia (18 min)
C-Kaman (18 min)
Pg-Bledsoe (12 min)
Pf-Diogu (12 min)
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12.Foye
13.Smith
14.Cook
15.Collins





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Post#1439 » by TheKingLivesOn » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Assuming Cleveland is able to acquire Gerald Wallace from Charlotte for instant financial relief, would the Clippers be interested in trading Kaman to Cleveland for Wallace? It was reported that the Clippers would trade Kaman for a clear upgrade at small forward. However, the same article also said that Wallace would not be of interest due to his contract. So I was wondering if their stance would change in a trade where they receive approximately $6 Million in cash and some picks along with Gerald Wallace?

Oklahoma City Thunder Trade: Cole Aldrich, Morris Peterson (Expiring Filler), BJ Mullens (or Daequan Cook as salary filler), 2012 1st Round Pick (Clippers), and $3 Million Cash
 Oklahoma City Thunder Receive: Chris Kaman

LA Clippers Trade: Chris Kaman, and 2018 1st Round Pick (LA Clippers)
LA Clippers Receive: Gerald Wallace, 2013 2nd Round Pick (Minnesota via Cleveland), 2011 2nd Round Draft Pick (Oklahoma City via Cleveland), $6 Million Cash ($3Mil from OKC, $3Mil from Cle)

Cleveland Cavaliers Trade: Gerald Wallace, 2013 2nd Round Pick (Minnesota), 2011 2nd Round Draft Pick (Oklahoma City), and $3 Million Cash
 Cleveland Cavaliers Receive: Cole Aldrich, Morris Peterson (Expiring Filler), BJ Mullens (or Daequan Cook as salary filler), 2018 1st Round Pick (LA Clippers), 2012 1st Round Pick (LA Clippers via Oklahoma City)

Summary:
• Oklahoma City trades a project center and a 2012 1st Round Pick for a proven Center who is still in his 20’s. Morris Peterson and either BJ Mullens or Daequan Cook are just salary fillers.
• LA Clippers trade away Chris Kaman and a 1st Rounder all the way in 2018 for an all star caliber Small Forward who plays great defense and $6 Million in cash. They also acquire two valuable 2nd Round picks in the process.
• Cleveland acquires a project center and 2 expiring contracts. However, the most important factor is that the Cavaliers also acquire 2 (Potentially High) 1st Round Draft Picks along with any picks Cleveland is able to acquire from Charlotte. I cant think of a better way to use the Trade Exception than to acquire a project center that was a lottery pick along with (possibly) three 1st Round Picks
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Post#1440 » by Det the Threat » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:00 pm

We certainly wouldn't trade a first round pick in a trade that would send Kaman out for Wallace.

That deal is way too good for Cleveland and I doubt you would get Wallace for only that TPE anyways.

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