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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#161 » by esqtvd » Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:59 pm

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What's your definition of all the way through? Complete this season? Next season? How much rope would you give Doc if you were the GM with no rings to show for it?


One more season and re-evaluate. My observation is just that putting in a new system with a new coach on the fly by Christmas seems crazy. And with constant injuries and then the 5-month hiatus just as the team was playing well, this Clippers team is NOT a well-oiled machine like the Spurs and Warriors became. It's not fair to judge it without giving it SOME chance to achieve some continuity.

I'd say this regardless of who the coach is. Play it out, at least one more season.


While that logic seems good it shouldn't apply to Doc. If he doesn't win it all this year then he goes. Coaches all over the league are fired every year and they've been dealt with a worse hand than Doc. Also this is a players' league. Kawhi and PG should be asked in total privacy how they feel about Doc. If the main stars are ok then I guess he gets another year.



Of course it should apply to Doc--unless Kawhi wanted him out, which I doubt. There is no indication he's lost the team and I think Game 5 rather proves it. If they'd have laid down it would be a different story. And after last night's big social justice speech, he's probably even more entrenched. How do you fire a guy after that? Ballmer eats that stuff up.
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Post#162 » by NickP » Mon Sep 7, 2020 4:47 am

Doc is barely at .500 for the playoffs. Given the cream of the crop talent he had the record is very poor.
Don't know why he's not considered a mediocre coach at best. I think his speeches and giving a voice to certain causes have made him untouchable.
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Post#163 » by lautreamont » Mon Sep 7, 2020 11:16 pm

NickP wrote:Doc is barely at .500 for the playoffs. Given the cream of the crop talent he had the record is very poor.
Don't know why he's not considered a mediocre coach at best. I think his speeches and giving a voice to certain causes have made him untouchable.


Only things that matters is what Kawhi wants. If he wants Doc, he stays. If he doesn't, he goes.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#164 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:13 am

So now that Doc is blowing his THIRD 3-1 lead, can we all finally admit it's time for a coaching change?
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#165 » by wco81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:03 am

Who would you get though?

With a big payroll and the superstar talent, it would have to be another retread coach, not some promising assistant or young college coach, because he might not command enough respect.

Whoever it is would have to be a great politician, able to establish rapport right away with the stars. Especially if the players still like Doc.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#166 » by Captain Ballmer » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:12 am

Rick Carlisle
Eric Spoelstra
Quin Snyder

Those are my 3 top coaches in the nba. They are tier 1 coaches along with some names i drop below.

Gregg Popovich
Nick Nurse
Steve Kerr
Brad Stevens

Those 7 are the names we should hope to get when doc resigns or fired whenever that be.

I heard that this coach's teams won't lose discipline all so often and don't need mental check-ups every other 2 game. They take a lot of noname players and make them contributors in playoffs. Those coaches does something right that they are where they are.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#167 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:25 am

If he chokes this seriies away, let's talk.

If not, Ballmer isn't ever getting rid of him. We're going to be running it back next year with Doc.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#168 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:08 am

As much as I would like his ass fired,let's get that title somehow even if that means he stays. :D

But blowing this leads is now really annoying,and I still have nightmares of Luka's buzzer beater. The lead was 21 then. :x
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#169 » by mttwlsn16 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:54 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:So now that Doc is blowing his THIRD 3-1 lead, can we all finally admit it's time for a coaching change?
It's sad that we're up 3-2, in a GREAT spot, and you'd rather the team lose so you can say you were right, over winning a ring. It's **** pathetic. Literally all you do is whine like a bitch.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#170 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:32 pm

mttwlsn16 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:So now that Doc is blowing his THIRD 3-1 lead, can we all finally admit it's time for a coaching change?
It's sad that we're up 3-2, in a GREAT spot, and you'd rather the team lose so you can say you were right, over winning a ring. It's **** pathetic. Literally all you do is whine like a bitch.

Come on bro. That's heavy handed.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#171 » by mttwlsn16 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:33 pm

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MartinToVaught wrote:So now that Doc is blowing his THIRD 3-1 lead, can we all finally admit it's time for a coaching change?
It's sad that we're up 3-2, in a GREAT spot, and you'd rather the team lose so you can say you were right, over winning a ring. It's **** pathetic. Literally all you do is whine like a bitch.

Come on bro. That's heavy handed.


It's truth. From day 1 all MTV has ever done is cry and say told you so.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#172 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:59 pm

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MartinToVaught wrote:So now that Doc is blowing his THIRD 3-1 lead, can we all finally admit it's time for a coaching change?
It's sad that we're up 3-2, in a GREAT spot, and you'd rather the team lose so you can say you were right, over winning a ring. It's **** pathetic. Literally all you do is whine like a bitch.

Come on bro. That's heavy handed.

Especially since it's not even true. Of course I'd rather the team win than be right. But the team actually has to prove me wrong first before I change my opinion.

I will say there's definitely some folks here who love losing because it allows them to get up on their high horse and act like they're better fans than everyone else.
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Post#173 » by wco81 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:22 pm

MartinRiggs wrote:As much as I would like his ass fired,let's get that title somehow even if that means he stays. :D

But blowing this leads is now really annoying,and I still have nightmares of Luka's buzzer beater. The lead was 21 then. :x


Now imagine facing the Lakers and you have these lapses.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#174 » by esqtvd » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:18 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:
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mttwlsn16 wrote:It's sad that we're up 3-2, in a GREAT spot, and you'd rather the team lose so you can say you were right, over winning a ring. It's **** pathetic. Literally all you do is whine like a bitch.

Come on bro. That's heavy handed.


It's truth. From day 1 all MTV has ever done is cry and say told you so.


:rofl2:

Any mook can back their team when things go well and s&^% on the when they don't. That's not a fan. And the coach didn't shoot 28% in the 4th quarter, the players did.

If and when we win this thing it's gonna be all the sweeter overcoming this adversity.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#175 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:07 am

esqtvd wrote:
mttwlsn16 wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Come on bro. That's heavy handed.


It's truth. From day 1 all MTV has ever done is cry and say told you so.


:rofl2:

Any mook can back their team when things go well and s&^% on the when they don't. That's not a fan. And the coach didn't shoot 28% in the 4th quarter, the players did.

If and when we win this thing it's gonna be all the sweeter overcoming this adversity.

Anyone can be positive (or feign a positive attitude) at all times as well.

Neither requires any guts or character.
Neither makes anyone more of a fan than the next.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#176 » by esqtvd » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:14 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
mttwlsn16 wrote:
It's truth. From day 1 all MTV has ever done is cry and say told you so.


:rofl2:

Any mook can back their team when things go well and s&^% on the when they don't. That's not a fan. And the coach didn't shoot 28% in the 4th quarter, the players did.

If and when we win this thing it's gonna be all the sweeter overcoming this adversity.

Anyone can be positive (or feign a positive attitude) at all times as well.

Neither requires any guts or character.
Neither makes anyone more of a fan than the next.



Who's "feigning," bro? I got faith in my boyz and hope for the best.

And what possible pleasure can a normal person take in douchebagging their own team and turning out to be right? That's sick.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#177 » by NickP » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:37 am

esqtvd wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
:rofl2:

Any mook can back their team when things go well and s&^% on the when they don't. That's not a fan. And the coach didn't shoot 28% in the 4th quarter, the players did.

If and when we win this thing it's gonna be all the sweeter overcoming this adversity.

Anyone can be positive (or feign a positive attitude) at all times as well.

Neither requires any guts or character.
Neither makes anyone more of a fan than the next.



Who's "feigning," bro? I got faith in my boyz and hope for the best.

And what possible pleasure can a normal person take in douchebagging their own team and turning out to be right? That's sick.


Can you show me one honest example of anyone here douchebagging their own team?
I think you're conflating the criticism of doc as hating the team. If someone says hope Doc gets fired if we lose then that's not saying I hope the team loses so doc gets fired. No one wants that.
Questioning Trez's lack of heart, or Lou's boneheaded TOs is not rooting against the team. Questioning doc and his inability to coach is not rooting against the team. Guys are just on the edge here.
This team was put together by Frank and West to win a championship. Doc is the head coach. Guys are questioning his moves or lack thereof.
Not everyone is a cool and collected dude like you and the way people react is different than yours. Maybe they're more emotional than you? But to say guys are rooting for the team to fail so Doc gets fired is beyond the pale.
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Re: Official Fire Doc Rivers thread 

Post#178 » by esqtvd » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:51 am

NickP wrote:Can you show me one honest example of anyone here douchebagging their own team?


But to say guys are rooting for the team to fail so Doc gets fired is beyond the pale.



Douching Trezz, Lou, Reggie. Gruder. A dedicated Fire Doc thread for YEARS now.

Mocking "Playoff" PG. That's half our team.

Dedicated Douchebagging 24/7. Trezz and Loy are 6MOYS. PG is an All-star. Is that enough HONEST examples? Hating on our OWN TEAM.

Sickness, bro. Sickness. Enough. Stand up.
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Post#179 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:00 am

NickP wrote:Can you show me one honest example of anyone here douchebagging their own team?

I can: esqtvd douchebagging Zubac, Ty Wallace, and Thornwell.
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Post#180 » by mttwlsn16 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:10 am

esqtvd wrote:
NickP wrote:Can you show me one honest example of anyone here douchebagging their own team?


But to say guys are rooting for the team to fail so Doc gets fired is beyond the pale.



Douching Trezz, Lou, Reggie. Gruder. A dedicated Fire Doc thread for YEARS now.

Mocking "Playoff" PG. That's half our team.

Dedicated Douchebagging 24/7. Trezz and Loy are 6MOYS. PG is an All-star. Is that enough HONEST examples? Hating on our OWN TEAM.

Sickness, bro. Sickness. Enough. Stand up.
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