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Who will be a member of the Clippers this summer?

Poll ended at Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:58 pm

Patrick Beverley
2
22%
Jimmy Butler
2
22%
DeMarcus Cousins
0
No votes
Kevin Durant
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No votes
Al Horford
2
22%
Kyrie Irving
0
No votes
Kawhi Leonard
3
33%
Klay Thompson
0
No votes
An Ex-Clipper (Harris, Jordan, Aminu, Green, Temple, etc.)
0
No votes
Someone acquired by trade
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 9

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Media Blitz on Kawhi & KD Speculation 

Post#181 » by Ranma » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:39 am

It's interesting in the last video that Stephen A. Smith recounts the courtesy meeting KD took with the Clippers during his previous venture into free agency and mentions that Durant already expressed to CP3 that he was not interested in joining the Clippers due primarily to the dysfunction with their Big 3 (Paul, Griffin & Jordan). Guess who was primarily the reason for that dysfunction, by the way? Yep, Doc but Griffin and Paul shared in the blame as well.

Well, in any case, Paul decided not to join the contingent what met with Durant in-person. Now apparently, Doc held that against Paul because he thought we had a legit shot at him at the time, which I didn't know until now. Add that to the Austin Rivers favoritism and it was the nail in the coffin for Lob City. Still, Smith's account lines up with everything I've heard at the time.

Interesting still is that former athletes are defending Doc, especially since he's been relieved of his front-office duties. Stephen Jackson makes a good point about players preferring to play for Doc over Luke Walton, which I have to agree with. Jackson's point about disrespecting coaches who have not played the game at a high level is ridiculous but he's an opinionated former player who's biased in that regard.

Dismissing Gregg Popovich and Phil Jackson as "unicorns" implying the rarity of such instances is actually quite misguided when you consider Brad Stevens, Pat Riley, Erik Spoelstra, Rick Carlisle and even Mike Krzyzewski. The best coaches are usually those who haven't played the game at a high level. Or does Jax such logic also applies to GMs as well when you consider Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas or even Doc Rivers himself? By the way, Glenn "Doc" Rivers wasn't exactly the best player on his NBA teams either.

Still, while I consider Doc to be overrated, he does present some appeal as a recruiter right now, but again, a lot of that has to do with Jerry West backing him at the moment and his neutered influence in front-office decisions.


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AD Needs Partner 

Post#182 » by Ranma » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:10 pm

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Giannis Joins Kareem in Bucks' History 

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Kellerman Argues Against KD Being Top-5 NBA Player 

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Woj & Lowe Inclined to Believe AD Will Pass on Super Max 

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Post#186 » by Ranma » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:18 am

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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#187 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:16 pm

We’ve hit a skid. We aren’t winning.

Oh my. Are we still going to be attractive for these guys?

Just lol.


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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#188 » by Clemenza » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:31 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:We’ve hit a skid. We aren’t winning.

Oh my. Are we still going to be attractive for these guys?

Just lol.


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We need to chill out on this KD/Kawhi pursuit. We look like we're too desperate and thirsty. Like a Instagram thot trying to look pretty for a baller/rich dude. It looks bad to me. Lets just play ball and improve as a team. If the big dogs come aboard then great. If not then lets keep it moving.
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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#189 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:34 pm

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Quake Griffin wrote:We’ve hit a skid. We aren’t winning.

Oh my. Are we still going to be attractive for these guys?

Just lol.


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We need to chill out on this KD/Kawhi pursuit. We look like we're too desperate and thirsty. Like a Instagram thot trying to look pretty for a baller/rich dude. It looks bad to me. Lets just play ball and improve as a team. If the big dogs come aboard then great. If not then lets keep it moving.

This will be difficult to do. Not only has the team made this season about attracting FAs in the upcoming years. We've been pretty public about it, making us look like a cheap Instagram thot for this crop of FAs.

If there's any leverage to be had in those negotiations on the mental side of things, we've given it up.
We need Kawhi and Durant more than they ever need us. That would be my read on it if I were them.

The bolded has been my position for months now but....some people like the full court press method of approaching FA.
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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#190 » by wco81 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 am

If the Clippers don't get one of the big dogs, what's the fallback?

Have they identified secondary free agents to round out the team?
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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#191 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:42 am

wco81 wrote:If the Clippers don't get one of the big dogs, what's the fallback?

Have they identified secondary free agents to round out the team?

Who are the big dogs: Kawhi and Durant?

I like Middleton, Kyrie, Klay are good players I'd like to add to the roster....and someone that I don't think is being mentioned but has to be mentioned.....Willie Cauley Stein. We need to monitor his situation and what it would take to get him here.
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Who is KD Kidding? 

Post#192 » by Ranma » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:47 am

I know Durant is giving a diplomatic answer, but come on. Who is he trying to fool? Despite their success this season, the Kings are still one of the most dysfunctional organizations in the league. Their assistant GM tried to sabotage coach Dave Joerger by dictating that he play more the of the young players despite Joerger leading a successful campaign this season.

On top of that, they passed on Luka Doncic when they, more than anyone else, should have been in on him from the beginning. Yeah, they've drafted De'Aaron Fox but he was practically a no-brainer at the time at least to me. The kid had more impressive character on display than Lonzo Ball during the 2017 NBA Draft and was close to as exciting a talent at the time. Plus, he filled a big need for Sacramento as well.

I'd be more than fine to see Durant sign with either the Kings or Knicks, but I don't see either happening. Joerger is unlikely to stick around beyond his current contract even if he is given the choice.


p.s. To be fair to the Kings, I believe Doncic's camp was trying to steer him away from them. However, Doncic was dropping on most teams' draft boards while a few astute talent evaluators--including Jerry West's front office--attempted to move up in capitalizing on that panic.


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Greek Freek Has Buck as Legit Contenders 

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Re: 2019 & 2020 Free-Agents 

Post#195 » by MartinToVaught » Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:46 pm

wco81 wrote:If the Clippers don't get one of the big dogs, what's the fallback?

Have they identified secondary free agents to round out the team?

Move on and don't throw A-list money at C-list "stars."
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Financial Considerations for AD 

Post#196 » by Ranma » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:40 am

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Re: Greek Freek Has Buck as Legit Contenders 

Post#197 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:29 pm

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Budenholzer was being criticized on this forum a couple weeks ago.

Wonder if that still holds.
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Post#198 » by Ranma » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:58 pm

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KD Says He's Over Being Recruited 

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Competition for Recruiting in L.A. 

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