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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#181 » by esqtvd » Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:53 pm

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Who are YOU, bro?

Shamet is awful, he needs to sit his ass down. He deserves no more minutes than he's currently getting.

And who is "Dumping" Lou? If you're not playing good in this game, SIT YOUR ASS DOWN! Reggie has looked great. Lou will still get as many opportunities as necessary on this team, but we're not trying to win the "Make Lou happy" award this year.

You sound an awful lot like Doc.


Marcus has been extremely strong for most of his time here defensively and occasionally offensively. Just a bad game.

And Nick Nurse made PLENTY of changes in the season with veteran players who clearly did not enjoy his minute changes.. and it worked. Guys like Lou, Shamet, etc are not at the level of a LeBron or Bosh or Kyrie or even Draymond who willingly changed their games to win rings.


Other than Kawhi, everyone should be at risk to have their minutes changed.



Lou and Trezz kept us afloat all year through lengthy injuries to PG, Pat and Shamet not to mention Kawhi's 'load management'; we shredded the Rockets like tissue paper and one close loss later a handful of very vocal "fans" want to cut everybody's throats.

I don't know what makes these new accounts come out of thin air after losses, not wins :wink: to jump on the dogpile, but welcome. Let's see what you're saying in a week or two, if you're even still here.


I've been here for more than this game buddy.

And I'm a Trez fan but jumping off the Lou ship. He's too old bottom line. He should be getting at most 12 minutes a game, not being the PG FOR THE TEAM



I'm all for more Reggie and less Lou. When together, Reggie is playing the 1 and Lou is sliding over to the 2, his natural position. But Lou didn't lose us the Laker game [plus+6] and neither did the center position. Zubac was yanked after 14 minutes [minus-9] and we were only in it because of Trezz's 20 points [no other Clipper besides KL and PG even managed double figures].

And Shamet was meh but only played 8 minutes and didn't hurt us.

If we're going to point fingers, Bev had 2 points in 26 minutes @ minus-16 and Morris had one more point than a dead man in 29 [@ minus-13]. If they only have average games, we win. If Doc is the scapegoat, then he should have yanked those two, but frankly, we are not gonna win the Larry without them contributing mightily, so he left them in to try and work it out.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#182 » by Yogatti » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:17 pm

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Exactly. Plus he's the worst defender possibly on the Clippers roster and when his shot isn't falling, there's no reason he should be getting any minutes.

TBH if he continues to look as bad as he had the last 5-6 games, I'd give him the McGruder role on this team. Ever since Reggie got here and to an extent Morris, he's looked totally out of place and disoriented.

This might not be an issue against bad teams, but we NEED to start planning for a Lakers series pronto.

We can't be down 2-0 or 3-1 before Doc decides to make the desperation switch.

WE ARE TRYING TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP NOT MAKE LOU WILLAIMS CONTENT AND HAPPY WITH HIS ROLE ON THE TEAM.


Not just Lou Williams, he wants to make trezz content and happy as well. They're bench players but they're being treated like superstars on this team by doc rivers.



I know people have a boner for Zu on this board, but Trez just does so many little things that are absolutely necessary and keep him on the court. I'd love to see him and Zu play together but that's never happening so...


Also Zu a highly limited offensive player so I see the reasoning given our main issues are offense not defense

*prepares for incoming onslaught of Anti Harrell comments*


The fact that you say our main issue is offense not defense pretty much tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Did you even watch the lakers game or do you just not understand what's going on out there? There were so many times where Trezz's lack of rebounding and defense killed us and lost so many games for us this season. Anthony Davis, Lebron and others were attacking the rim everytime and Trezz wasn't able to stop because he's not a good rim protector compared to Zubac. We don't need Trezz's offense, we need Zubac's defense otherwise the same thing will happen in the playoffs where AD and Lebron will destroy Trezz in the paint

We have Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Marcus Morris, Shamet, Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson Lou Williams on this team. There's so many weapons on this team that you saying our offense is a problem is just hilarious. With this many scorers, you prioritize Trezz's offense over everything else? :lol: FOH lmao
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#183 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:26 pm

esqtvd wrote:
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Lou and Trezz kept us afloat all year through lengthy injuries to PG, Pat and Shamet not to mention Kawhi's 'load management'; we shredded the Rockets like tissue paper and one close loss later a handful of very vocal "fans" want to cut everybody's throats.

I don't know what makes these new accounts come out of thin air after losses, not wins :wink: to jump on the dogpile, but welcome. Let's see what you're saying in a week or two, if you're even still here.


I've been here for more than this game buddy.

And I'm a Trez fan but jumping off the Lou ship. He's too old bottom line. He should be getting at most 12 minutes a game, not being the PG FOR THE TEAM



I'm all for more Reggie and less Lou. When together, Reggie is playing the 1 and Lou is sliding over to the 2, his natural position. But Lou didn't lose us the Laker game [plus+6] and neither did the center position. Zubac was yanked after 14 minutes [minus-9] and we were only in it because of Trezz's 20 points [no other Clipper besides KL and PG even managed double figures].

And Shamet was meh but only played 8 minutes and didn't hurt us.

If we're going to point fingers, Bev had 2 points in 26 minutes @ minus-16 and Morris had one more point than a dead man in 29 [@ minus-13]. If they only have average games, we win. If Doc is the scapegoat, then he should have yanked those two, but frankly, we are not gonna win the Larry without them contributing mightily, so he left them in to try and work it out.


The Morris game was just strange but I would have at least kept Bev OR Reggie in instead of Lou. Lou is NOT a PG and he literally loses the limited stamina he has being forced to play out of position. So head scratching.

Onto the next game.



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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#184 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:28 pm

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Not just Lou Williams, he wants to make trezz content and happy as well. They're bench players but they're being treated like superstars on this team by doc rivers.



I know people have a boner for Zu on this board, but Trez just does so many little things that are absolutely necessary and keep him on the court. I'd love to see him and Zu play together but that's never happening so...


Also Zu a highly limited offensive player so I see the reasoning given our main issues are offense not defense

*prepares for incoming onslaught of Anti Harrell comments*


The fact that you say our main issue is offense not defense pretty much tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Did you even watch the lakers game or do you just not understand what's going on out there? There were so many times where Trezz's lack of rebounding and defense killed us and lost so many games for us this season. Anthony Davis, Lebron and others were attacking the rim everytime and Trezz wasn't able to stop because he's not a good rim protector compared to Zubac. We don't need Trezz's offense, we need Zubac's defense otherwise the same thing will happen in the playoffs where AD and Lebron will destroy Trezz in the paint

We have Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Marcus Morris, Shamet, Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson Lou Williams on this team. There's so many weapons on this team that you saying our offense is a problem is just hilarious. With this many scorers, you prioritize Trezz's offense over everything else? :lol: FOH lmao



You are insane. As esqtvd said, the only reason WE WERE IN THE GAME was because of Montrezz's 20 pts when the bench didn't do anything other than Reggie.


Do you realize Morris, Bev, and Lou did Absolutely NOTHING on offense yesterday?

I'd love for you to show me every single play Montrez "messed up on" yesterday bc Zu's offense is far worse than Trez's defense.


It's hysterical how wrong you are. You must be related to Zu with your lack of BBIQ.

Find a different sport to watch if you have never played basketball in your life.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#185 » by Yogatti » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:48 pm

ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:

I know people have a boner for Zu on this board, but Trez just does so many little things that are absolutely necessary and keep him on the court. I'd love to see him and Zu play together but that's never happening so...


Also Zu a highly limited offensive player so I see the reasoning given our main issues are offense not defense

*prepares for incoming onslaught of Anti Harrell comments*


The fact that you say our main issue is offense not defense pretty much tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Did you even watch the lakers game or do you just not understand what's going on out there? There were so many times where Trezz's lack of rebounding and defense killed us and lost so many games for us this season. Anthony Davis, Lebron and others were attacking the rim everytime and Trezz wasn't able to stop because he's not a good rim protector compared to Zubac. We don't need Trezz's offense, we need Zubac's defense otherwise the same thing will happen in the playoffs where AD and Lebron will destroy Trezz in the paint

We have Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Marcus Morris, Shamet, Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson Lou Williams on this team. There's so many weapons on this team that you saying our offense is a problem is just hilarious. With this many scorers, you prioritize Trezz's offense over everything else? :lol: FOH lmao



You are insane. As esqtvd said, the only reason WE WERE IN THE GAME was because of Montrezz's 20 pts when the bench didn't do anything other than Reggie.


Do you realize Morris, Bev, and Lou did Absolutely NOTHING on offense yesterday?

I'd love for you to show me every single play Montrez "messed up on" yesterday bc Zu's offense is far worse than Trez's defense.


It's hysterical how wrong you are. You must be related to Zu with your lack of BBIQ.

Find a different sport to watch if you have never played basketball in your life.


And he gives it all right back on the defensive end, something you clearly don't care about. It doesn't matter how many pts he scored, we're just trading buckets when Trezz and Lou are on the court We're better off utilizing other players instead of having Trezz posting up 10 times in a row. You really think the best option is that? Then what was the point of trading for Morris and getting Reggie Jackson. Why add all these other scorers if we're just going to have Trezz wave everyone off and have him go iso and lose us the game. We lost the game playing like this yet you think that's the way the offense should work. It's you who lack BBIQ
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Post#186 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:58 pm

Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
The fact that you say our main issue is offense not defense pretty much tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Did you even watch the lakers game or do you just not understand what's going on out there? There were so many times where Trezz's lack of rebounding and defense killed us and lost so many games for us this season. Anthony Davis, Lebron and others were attacking the rim everytime and Trezz wasn't able to stop because he's not a good rim protector compared to Zubac. We don't need Trezz's offense, we need Zubac's defense otherwise the same thing will happen in the playoffs where AD and Lebron will destroy Trezz in the paint

We have Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Marcus Morris, Shamet, Pat Bev, Reggie Jackson Lou Williams on this team. There's so many weapons on this team that you saying our offense is a problem is just hilarious. With this many scorers, you prioritize Trezz's offense over everything else? :lol: FOH lmao



You are insane. As esqtvd said, the only reason WE WERE IN THE GAME was because of Montrezz's 20 pts when the bench didn't do anything other than Reggie.


Do you realize Morris, Bev, and Lou did Absolutely NOTHING on offense yesterday?

I'd love for you to show me every single play Montrez "messed up on" yesterday bc Zu's offense is far worse than Trez's defense.


It's hysterical how wrong you are. You must be related to Zu with your lack of BBIQ.

Find a different sport to watch if you have never played basketball in your life.


And he gives it all right back on the defensive end, something you clearly don't care about. It doesn't matter how many pts he scored, we're just trading buckets when Trezz and Lou are on the court We're better off utilizing other players instead of having Trezz posting up 10 times in a row. You really think the best option is that? Then what was the point of trading for Morris and getting Reggie Jackson. Why add all these other scorers if we're just going to have Trezz wave everyone off and have him go iso and lose us the game. We lost the game playing like this yet you think that's the way the offense should work. It's you who lack BBIQ


Have you ever played basketball in your life? In high school? College? Do you know how to read game film?

There's a BIG difference btwn Lou and Trez on defense. Trez leads the league in charges and is constantly doing the little things like tip plays to get others the rebound.

You're acting like Zu is the 2nd coming of Shaq when he's a decent role player right now. Hysterical :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that you are blaming yesterday on MONTREZ is in my short time here, the stupidest thing I have heard on this message board. Congratulations.

This will be my last reply to the keyboard jockey until the next game bc it's impossible to argue w someone who doesn't know how basketball works.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#187 » by esqtvd » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:00 pm

ClapForClippers wrote:
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I've been here for more than this game buddy.

And I'm a Trez fan but jumping off the Lou ship. He's too old bottom line. He should be getting at most 12 minutes a game, not being the PG FOR THE TEAM



I'm all for more Reggie and less Lou. When together, Reggie is playing the 1 and Lou is sliding over to the 2, his natural position. But Lou didn't lose us the Laker game [plus+6] and neither did the center position. Zubac was yanked after 14 minutes [minus-9] and we were only in it because of Trezz's 20 points [no other Clipper besides KL and PG even managed double figures].

And Shamet was meh but only played 8 minutes and didn't hurt us.

If we're going to point fingers, Bev had 2 points in 26 minutes @ minus-16 and Morris had one more point than a dead man in 29 [@ minus-13]. If they only have average games, we win. If Doc is the scapegoat, then he should have yanked those two, but frankly, we are not gonna win the Larry without them contributing mightily, so he left them in to try and work it out.


The Morris game was just strange but I would have at least kept Bev OR Reggie in instead of Lou. Lou is NOT a PG and he literally loses the limited stamina he has being forced to play out of position. So head scratching.

Onto the next game. But the Lakers series will be a dogfight.



We became discombobulated in the 2nd half--actually worse in the 3rd quarter [minus-8] than the 4th, which we lost by 5. But Bev was not the answer--he had a BAD game and was most responsible for slowing the pace on us as the PG. You could have put Reggie in, but that's TWO new guys in at once in crunchtime, and I don't think that's such a great idea, especially since we were still hanging on by our fingernails in what was a 7-point game throughout the 4th.

Doc went with Morris in the 4th, and this WAS the time to experiment. We've got to see what he's got and where he fits in. Introducing another variable in Reggie, I dunno. When you lose, it's easy to say you should have zagged when you zigged. But Marcus is the guy we're counting on to be a difference-maker, not Reggie.


I'm really hoping Noah can bridge the gap between Zu and Trezz. I don't blame Zu for his minus-9--I think that was more a product of Bev and Marcus's bad games. But Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in. I'm hoping Noah can give us 5-10 really great minutes and we can put the 4th quarter center controversy to bed.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#188 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:07 pm

esqtvd wrote:
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I'm all for more Reggie and less Lou. When together, Reggie is playing the 1 and Lou is sliding over to the 2, his natural position. But Lou didn't lose us the Laker game [plus+6] and neither did the center position. Zubac was yanked after 14 minutes [minus-9] and we were only in it because of Trezz's 20 points [no other Clipper besides KL and PG even managed double figures].

And Shamet was meh but only played 8 minutes and didn't hurt us.

If we're going to point fingers, Bev had 2 points in 26 minutes @ minus-16 and Morris had one more point than a dead man in 29 [@ minus-13]. If they only have average games, we win. If Doc is the scapegoat, then he should have yanked those two, but frankly, we are not gonna win the Larry without them contributing mightily, so he left them in to try and work it out.


The Morris game was just strange but I would have at least kept Bev OR Reggie in instead of Lou. Lou is NOT a PG and he literally loses the limited stamina he has being forced to play out of position. So head scratching.

Onto the next game. But the Lakers series will be a dogfight.



We became discombobulated in the 2nd half--actually worse in the 3rd quarter [minus-8] than the 4th, which we lost by 5. But Bev was not the answer--he had a BAD game and was most responsible for slowing the pace on us as the PG. You could have put Reggie in, but that's TWO new guys in at once in crunchtime, and I don't think that's such a great idea, especially since we were still hanging on by our fingernails in what was a 7-point game throughout the 4th.

Doc went with Morris in the 4th, and this WAS the time to experiment. We've got to see what he's got and where he fits in. Introducing another variable in Reggie, I dunno. When you lose, it's easy to say you should have zagged when you zigged. But Marcus is the guy we're counting on to be a difference-maker, not Reggie.


I'm really hoping Noah can bridge the gap between Zu and Trezz. I don't blame Zu for his minus-9--I think that was more a product of Bev and Marcus's bad games. But Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in. I'm hoping Noah can give us 5-10 really great minutes and we can put the 4th quarter center controversy to bed.


Bingo to the bold.

The simple answer was taking out Lou for Bev or Reggie. You could have had Bev AND Reggie since Morris was slumping. LOU IS NOT A POINT GUARD.

Morris will be fine... and if he isn't then someone needs to tell him you get 5 shots max a game and they're all corner 3's.

Noah isn't going to be playing whatsoever unless of injuries. Zu is just not an offensive threat whatsoever but a decent bigman in the post. His best games are those like the Rockets where it's a small ball lineup.


The Lakers are an incredibly tough team to figure out. Do I have hope Doc can?


Ehh, but if we just get Kawhi 30 touches a game in the playoffs we'll be fine. He's the best player in the league.
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Post#189 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:09 pm

What I DO NOT expect to happen is PG playing like this consistently. It's far more likely he has games like Morris did or turning the ball over and we still lost.


Players like PG and Melo stop ball movement which gets other players cold. No wonder we only had 12 assists since PG's game is not facilitated on passing. He's best as a guy there for spacing who can drive to the rim then kick it out, which is not his instinct to play.



That next Lakers game can't come soon enough. Although they won't be at full strength, it'll still be a good game to hopefully blow them out and get some momentum heading into the playoffs.
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Post#190 » by Yogatti » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:10 pm

ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
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You are insane. As esqtvd said, the only reason WE WERE IN THE GAME was because of Montrezz's 20 pts when the bench didn't do anything other than Reggie.


Do you realize Morris, Bev, and Lou did Absolutely NOTHING on offense yesterday?

I'd love for you to show me every single play Montrez "messed up on" yesterday bc Zu's offense is far worse than Trez's defense.


It's hysterical how wrong you are. You must be related to Zu with your lack of BBIQ.

Find a different sport to watch if you have never played basketball in your life.


And he gives it all right back on the defensive end, something you clearly don't care about. It doesn't matter how many pts he scored, we're just trading buckets when Trezz and Lou are on the court We're better off utilizing other players instead of having Trezz posting up 10 times in a row. You really think the best option is that? Then what was the point of trading for Morris and getting Reggie Jackson. Why add all these other scorers if we're just going to have Trezz wave everyone off and have him go iso and lose us the game. We lost the game playing like this yet you think that's the way the offense should work. It's you who lack BBIQ


Have you ever played basketball in your life? In high school? College? Do you know how to read game film?

There's a BIG difference btwn Lou and Trez on defense. Trez leads the league in charges and is constantly doing the little things like tip plays to get others the rebound.

You're acting like Zu is the 2nd coming of Shaq when he's a decent role player right now. Hysterical :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that you are blaming yesterday on MONTREZ is in my short time here, the stupidest thing I have heard on this message board. Congratulations.

This will be my last reply to the keyboard jockey until the next game bc it's impossible to argue w someone who doesn't know how basketball works.


Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general
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Post#191 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:13 pm

Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
And he gives it all right back on the defensive end, something you clearly don't care about. It doesn't matter how many pts he scored, we're just trading buckets when Trezz and Lou are on the court We're better off utilizing other players instead of having Trezz posting up 10 times in a row. You really think the best option is that? Then what was the point of trading for Morris and getting Reggie Jackson. Why add all these other scorers if we're just going to have Trezz wave everyone off and have him go iso and lose us the game. We lost the game playing like this yet you think that's the way the offense should work. It's you who lack BBIQ


Have you ever played basketball in your life? In high school? College? Do you know how to read game film?

There's a BIG difference btwn Lou and Trez on defense. Trez leads the league in charges and is constantly doing the little things like tip plays to get others the rebound.

You're acting like Zu is the 2nd coming of Shaq when he's a decent role player right now. Hysterical :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that you are blaming yesterday on MONTREZ is in my short time here, the stupidest thing I have heard on this message board. Congratulations.

This will be my last reply to the keyboard jockey until the next game bc it's impossible to argue w someone who doesn't know how basketball works.


Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general


Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#192 » by Yogatti » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:18 pm

ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Have you ever played basketball in your life? In high school? College? Do you know how to read game film?

There's a BIG difference btwn Lou and Trez on defense. Trez leads the league in charges and is constantly doing the little things like tip plays to get others the rebound.

You're acting like Zu is the 2nd coming of Shaq when he's a decent role player right now. Hysterical :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that you are blaming yesterday on MONTREZ is in my short time here, the stupidest thing I have heard on this message board. Congratulations.

This will be my last reply to the keyboard jockey until the next game bc it's impossible to argue w someone who doesn't know how basketball works.


Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general


Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.


why bother showing you the plays since you're incapable of understanding what's going on there. Waste of time doing that and a waste of time replying low bbiq posters like you. All you ever see is scoring and points and ignore everything else that happens on the court
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#193 » by ClapForClippers » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:40 pm

Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general


Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.


why bother showing you the plays since you're incapable of understanding what's going on there. Waste of time doing that and a waste of time replying low bbiq posters like you. All you ever see is scoring and points and ignore everything else that happens on the court


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

which is why I constantly praise Reggie and Morris's defense but ok loser.

SHOW ME THE PLAYS YOU MORON OR YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#194 » by Yogatti » Mon Mar 9, 2020 11:56 pm

ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.


why bother showing you the plays since you're incapable of understanding what's going on there. Waste of time doing that and a waste of time replying low bbiq posters like you. All you ever see is scoring and points and ignore everything else that happens on the court


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

which is why I constantly praise Reggie and Morris's defense but ok loser.

SHOW ME THE PLAYS YOU MORON OR YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A


funny I don't see you praising trezz's defense yet you're acting like he's the MVP of the game. And your praising Morris' defense is hilarious since Lebron pretty much did what he wanted when Morris was on him. I thought esqtvd was bad, but you just replaced him as the worst poster on this board :lol:
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#195 » by BenchOnaQUEST » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:25 am

Losing sucks. Losing to the Lakers sucks even harder. With that being said, perspective is everything. That’s a good team over there, and to think we were gonna easily 4-0 them is unrealistic even though we were all hopeful.

When I say perspective, I mean staring at the grand scheme of things and not just this one game isolated. When you do that, what you’ll realize is that we’re still the 2-seed. We still lead the season series 2-1. We still have our squad fully healthy. We’ve still won 6 of our last 7 games. We’re still THAT team. Today’s final score changes none of that.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#196 » by og15 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:44 am

Lakers fans breakdown of what helps them win:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/3/9/21170900/los-angeles-lakers-vs-clippers-lebron-james-kawhi-leonard-paul-george-defense-adjustment

The basic gist is attack Lou Williams as much as possible because he sucks on defense. No doubt that helped them, but the Clipper shot 40/23 for the game.

Williams, Beverley, Morris and Green combined to shoot 5/28 FG (18%) and 1/12 3PT (8%). That's not likely to be achievable on a consistent basis, while George and Kawhi's shooting/scoring and efficiency production is something that can happen 4-5 times in a series, so that's a positive for LAC.

Losing to the Lakers gets people riled up, but expecting to go undefeated against the #1 seed is not that logical. In a 7 game series are we going to be mad every time we lose to them as if we are supposed to sweep them? I do get it though, both teams fully healthy, people wanted this to be a "statement game", etc, etc, but I promise, it will be okay.
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#197 » by TheNewEra » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:13 am

ClapForClippers wrote:
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Have you ever played basketball in your life? In high school? College? Do you know how to read game film?

There's a BIG difference btwn Lou and Trez on defense. Trez leads the league in charges and is constantly doing the little things like tip plays to get others the rebound.

You're acting like Zu is the 2nd coming of Shaq when he's a decent role player right now. Hysterical :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that you are blaming yesterday on MONTREZ is in my short time here, the stupidest thing I have heard on this message board. Congratulations.

This will be my last reply to the keyboard jockey until the next game bc it's impossible to argue w someone who doesn't know how basketball works.


Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general


Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.



The issue with the comment is that Trez and the ending unit are having trouble scoring and playing defense. You can’t go with 5 scorers and still have issues scoring on top of poor defense.

Trez can shift momentum but a large part of his work is against second unit talent. What the current issue as of late has been the complete drop off in production with Kawhi and PG to close out games
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#198 » by TheNewEra » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:17 am

og15 wrote:Lakers fans breakdown of what helps them win:
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2020/3/9/21170900/los-angeles-lakers-vs-clippers-lebron-james-kawhi-leonard-paul-george-defense-adjustment

The basic gist is attack Lou Williams as much as possible because he sucks on defense. No doubt that helped them, but the Clipper shot 40/23 for the game.

Williams, Beverley, Morris and Green combined to shoot 5/28 FG (18%) and 1/12 3PT (8%). That's not likely to be achievable on a consistent basis, while George and Kawhi's shooting/scoring and efficiency production is something that can happen 4-5 times in a series, so that's a positive for LAC.

Losing to the Lakers gets people riled up, but expecting to go undefeated against the #1 seed is not that logical. In a 7 game series are we going to be mad every time we lose to them as if we are supposed to sweep them? I do get it though, both teams fully healthy, people wanted this to be a "statement game", etc, etc, but I promise, it will be okay.


From the review
That’s what James and the Lakers ensured when it mattered most. From the eight-and-a-half minute mark of the fourth quarter until the final James three-point play to put them up 12 with 40 seconds left, the Lakers targeted Lou Williams and did everything in their power to ensure one of the three weaker Clipper defenders — Williams, Montrezl Harrell, or Marcus Morris — was ultimately the one contesting their shots. The Lakers posted an offensive rating above 125 in that stretch, ballooning to a whopping 144.4 in the final five minutes. They scored 20 points on 16 total possessions, including 13 on their final eight. Those are terrific numbers prorated over a whole game, but they’re even better in a tight, half-court slugfest when scoring is supposed to be challenging.

Even the lakers fans get it. People trying to fight it that we need Lou in Harrell in there for scoring are missing the drop off because we don’t have the rim protection or stable perimeter defense. If they can target Lou and then glide into the rim uncontested then what the hell is the point of have Kawhi or PG even out there?


It’s not how you lose but the way you lose and the clippers still haven’t shown the ability to adjust
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#199 » by ClapForClippers » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:27 am

Yogatti wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
why bother showing you the plays since you're incapable of understanding what's going on there. Waste of time doing that and a waste of time replying low bbiq posters like you. All you ever see is scoring and points and ignore everything else that happens on the court


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

which is why I constantly praise Reggie and Morris's defense but ok loser.

SHOW ME THE PLAYS YOU MORON OR YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A


funny I don't see you praising trezz's defense yet you're acting like he's the MVP of the game. And your praising Morris' defense is hilarious since Lebron pretty much did what he wanted when Morris was on him. I thought esqtvd was bad, but you just replaced him as the worst poster on this board :lol:


are you stupid? I was talking about MORRIS AND REGGIE IN GENERAL NOT LAST GAME SPECIFICALLY.

The point being if you really think Zubac is a better option whatsoever to Montrez you are a moron. Zu is a role player who at most should get 12-14 minutes (which he does).
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Re: Game 63: Los Angeles Clippers (43-19) vs. Los Angeles Lakers (48-13) - 3:30 PM ET 

Post#200 » by ClapForClippers » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 am

TheNewEra wrote:
ClapForClippers wrote:
Yogatti wrote:
Where did I act like Zu was 2nd coming of Shaq?

You know basketball is played on both sides and there's this thing called defense right? you must be related to doc rivers with your lack of care on defense or just IQ in general


Great comeback! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

YOU NEED TO SHOW ME THE PLAYS FROM YESTERDAY WHERE MONTREZ MESSED UP

And as esq brilliantly said, "Trezz can and does turn things around when things are going south, something Zu just can't do and that's why Trezz is in."


And if you knew how to read you'll see I am constantly criticizing Doc for his lineups. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOT MONTREZ. IT IS LOU WILLIAMS. WAKE UP


There really needs to be a standardized test on this board to let people who actually know basketball discuss things while people like Yoga Boy can just read things and learn.



The issue with the comment is that Trez and the ending unit are having trouble scoring and playing defense. You can’t go with 5 scorers and still have issues scoring on top of poor defense.

Trez can shift momentum but a large part of his work is against second unit talent. What the current issue as of late has been the complete drop off in production with Kawhi and PG to close out games


That's reasonable. But I wouldn't' say this is an issue in general, just last game against an insanely elite Lakers team. If Morris doesn't play awful or Bradley, we win that. Montrez is the furthest of concerns compared to Morris, Bev, Shamet, etc

And how is it a current issue? Are we forgetting the Nuggets and Rockets games?


I will say I'm still not sure why Doc doesn't at least try Zu and Montrez together against bigger teams (like when the Lakers play Javale and AD together) but I agree Trezz does gas out bc of minutes

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