Trade Idea Thread II

BlzMwt · Post #1881 » by **BlzMwt** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:36 pm

yea i suppose, i hadn't even been paying attention to realize phoenix was tanking, just knew about the Bledsoe injury.

Other than that, I see a team like Miami, Memphis, Dallas willing to give up draft picks/young players to get Chandler. Their top players are older and Chandler would fit in the timeline of a Bosh/Wade, Gasol/Randolph, Dirk retirement.

Also I believe since Miami won't be able to resign Whiteside, it would be beneficial for them to make a move, especially since it looks like they might not even make the playoffs or just be on the cusp of it

nickhx2 · Post #1882 » by **nickhx2** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:45 pm

this is kind of something i think we've discussed before but i've always reluctantly agreed with og's take that paying THAT much money for an aging backup while we have dj is not an efficient use of resources. that said, the more and more wretched our bench looks each game the easier it is to lose patience and just go for the "all-in" move. i think if cole wasn't serviceable it'd be a much easier decision but as of now the cons are still significant enough to make it tough.

that said, if it got crawford out of here i almost think it's the only way we can actually have an actual good bench. you can survive with pierce/pablo being old with chandler/austin/wes being active and helping out. we will never do that as long as crawford is here.

(btw for some real laughs check out the TT forums where people think us trading lance/dawson/wilcox/2nd for kevin martin and spare parts is a good deal and makes us better.)

Post #1883 » by **og15** » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:14 pm

http://clipperholics.com/2015/10/01/the-clippers-almost-signed-darrell-arthur-this-summer/

I was on the Arthur > Smith for this team train from a fit perspective though after the decision was made, I was fine with the Smith acquisition for the price if there was mutual understanding about his role and such, which seemingly there wasn't. Of course Arthur decided to go elsewhere, so that sucked.

Maybe the Clippers should go and see if they can trade for Arthur now, lol

Spider156 · Post #1884 » by **Spider156** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:38 pm

Would you guys trade Blake Griffin for Kevin Love?

Dynamix · Post #1885 » by **Dynamix** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:57 pm

Spider156 wrote:Would you guys trade Blake Griffin for Kevin Love?

If they throw in LeBron and Kyrie, sure.

Post #1886 » by **og15** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:57 pm

Spider156 wrote:Would you guys trade Blake Griffin for Kevin Love?

No, but you are aware that the fit of Lebron/Griffin is even worse than that of Lebron/Love, right?

wasteh202 · Post #1887 » by **wasteh202** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:23 am

At the risk of being tared and feathered, and banished from this MB.

I would trade Blake and CP for K Love and K Irving.

Since I think Irving is overpaid, I would then trade Irving for another point guard and a small forward.

Just me.

nickhx2 · Post #1888 » by **nickhx2** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:51 am

why would anyone ban you?

BlzMwt · Post #1889 » by **BlzMwt** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 5:08 am

wasteh202 wrote:At the risk of being tared and feathered, and banished from this MB.

I would trade Blake and CP for K Love and K Irving.

Since I think Irving is overpaid, I would then trade Irving for another point guard and a small forward.

Just me.

In a win now stage, I would rather have Blake>Love and CP>Irving

In a rebuilding stage, it becomes more of a possibility due to age but considering Irving's injury history still probably a no.

If YOU think that Irving is overpaid, plus his injury proneness, what kind of PG+SF combo do you think we could get? The contracts of Griffin/Paul and Love/Irving don't even match up but even if they did... to trade Irving to a single team, would likely return a gain of Bradley/Crowder/Smart from Boston or Rubio/Shabazz/filler from Minnesota, if they were even interested. Maybe something from the Hawks for Teague? Irving doesn't really fit their ball movement style though. Building around a Love and Jordan duo really doesn't seem promising compared to what we have now.

wasteh202 · Post #1890 » by **wasteh202** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:18 am

I agree with the fact that K Irving's health is in question, that is another reason why I suggested trading him. However, he is only 23 years old, and plenty teams will step up to the plate to take a chance on him.

BlzMwt · Post #1891 » by **BlzMwt** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:21 pm

wasteh202 wrote:I agree with the fact that K Irving's health is in question, that is another reason why I suggested trading him. However, he is only 23 years old, and plenty teams will step up to the plate to take a chance on him.

Oh i don't doubt that at all. A team could take a chance on him and he never has another injury again in his career. I was just saying from the perspective of the Clippers. He isn't going to help this season in place of Paul. And even if you are gonna blow things up, giving up Paul for someone who has such an injury risk isn't something I think the Clippers should do

robbie84 · Post #1892 » by **robbie84** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:22 pm

Does Doc trade Blake for the #1 pick? (Ben Simmons)
Does he trade it for #2?

Post #1893 » by **og15** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:35 pm

robbie84 wrote:Does Doc trade Blake for the #1 pick? (Ben Simmons)
Does he trade it for #2?

Personally I would prefer if this current front office didn't make any trades in relation to CP and Blake as I can't say their trade history has been too good, but obviously I have no clue what kind of move they would want to make it they theoretically did trade Blake.

Quake Griffin · Post #1894 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:37 pm

We can't trade Blake brehs.

**** I'ma do with this user name?

LACtdom · Post #1895 » by **LACtdom** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:15 pm

I'm okay with trading Blake as long as it's not Doc making the trade... don't really feel like giving away Blake, 2 picks and Staples for a statue of Jamal.

In all seriousness, Blake for Simmons would make me happy. If we're winning without Blake (albeit against poor teams) then the trade wouldn't necessarily put us in rebuild mode, depending on what we do with CP.

thricethefun · Post #1896 » by **thricethefun** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:18 pm

Wizards fan here. Would you trade Blake for this package that includes Beal, Gortat, and Dudley? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hrsctbp

Beal is still young and, though he has been injury prone, he has the potential to be an all star shooting guard at some point. Gortat could be a primary backup center for you and someone you could go to when they are hacking DeAndre. And then Dudley has been great this year as a three point shooter and can play the 4 if you go small.

nickhx2 · Post #1897 » by **nickhx2** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:32 pm

Quake Griffin · Post #1898 » by **Quake Griffin** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:46 pm

Blake to the Bucks for Khris MiddleGOAT their 2016 1st, their 2017 first and our 2017 first back.

A ready now asset we can all get behind.
potential lottery pick + 2 more 1sts.

Bucks are low-key 5 games out of 8th though.
Can't have them making the playoffs. Need that pick to be lottery. We need Griff's hand to almost never recover if we do that.

2nd thought.
Let's just not trade Blake guys.

Post #1899 » by **og15** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:11 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Blake to the Bucks for Khris MiddleGOAT their 2016 1st, their 2017 first and our 2017 first back.

A ready now asset we can all get behind.
potential lottery pick + 2 more 1sts.

Bucks are low-key 5 games out of 8th though.
Can't have them making the playoffs. Need that pick to be lottery. We need Griff's hand to almost never recover if we do that.

2nd thought.
Let's just not trade Blake guys.

The Bucks are the 8th worst team in the league right now, Blake for Middleton and the 8th pick is a bad trade for the Clippers. Even if you tossed in Henson. Both teams 2017 picks would end up being out of the lottery since Blake would make them better, and the Clippers would still be a top 4 playoff team.

This trade makes the Clippers worse because it essentially just trades Blake for Middleton, and a lottery pick, but not really an exciting one. Not to mention any lottery pick like that isn't likely to be a guy who produces right away. Bucks fans have also said that Middleton is better at SG than SF.

So the team becomes:
Chris Paul
JJ Redick
Khris Middleton
??????
DeAndre Jordan

This is not a better team than if the team had Blake. Boston is a much better partner if the Clippers were going this route as they have the Brooklyn pick and can give the Clippers more than one 3/D wing. That's at least a fair trade for the Clippers. Doesn't mean it is a trade that should be done, but if we're being objective about value, it is "fair" for a superstar type player.

Dupp · Post #1900 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:29 pm

So a lot of blake talk, is that actually accurate information that doc said? If so pretty dumb but i guess doc just being doc. Blake seems untradable unless he has more off court issues than we know about? Either way i wouldnt be letting doc make any decisions.

Do you guys think theres any scenario where you would trade paul or blake? Paul to me seems like more likely guy to trade given age. It would have to be a move looking to the future conceding this group cant win, which given your depth and assets i dont think you can. But would your management ever concede this?

What do you think your team would look for in a paul return? I'd happily send kyrie and some but the issue is i dont think we have much of that "and some" to send and we're not in a position to take on much more salary.

Obviously the gap between these guys is huge but kyries young and you have 5 years of him at least. Dont think it'll ever happen but what do you guys think as fans?