CLIPPERS + JOHN WALL = LARRY O'BRIEN

[esqtvd]

Wiz fan here. Happy for you guys and happy for Wall. Wrote this in the GB:

Not me. This will be the most talented team he has ever played on and for a true point guard, that's important.

That’s what’ll be interesting to see. Wall has never been on a contender and has pretty much been the best player on every team he’s been every year of his career. Looking forward to seeing him in a situation where he doesn’t have as much heavy lifting or scoring responsibilities in the offense, and can focus on what he does best, playmaking for others. He was also an all nba defender in Washington before Scott Brooks took over, definitely had the chops on that end when he’s locked in, especially now what he’s playing on a legit contender with all league defenders in Kawhi and PG next to him.

If Lue can get him back to playing defense like he’s capable, this is huge for the clippers.

YUGE. 9+ apg in a career is a basketball genius; I don't even care what else you do.

Thanks for visiting us bro. The takeaway is that as a fan, J-Wall won your respect. That's all that matters.

And I couldn't agree more that Wall's one of those guys who ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time--or just didn't end up in the right place at the right time.

Hope you stop by again. You can be an honorary Clipper fan this year. You're already better than some of the ****wads around here lol

[Dynamix]

Not to overanalyze a deal that's not even official yet, but imagine playing 40 games in 3 years while making 120M or whatever it was, then getting paid another 41M just to leave. So are you really going to feel offended that a contender you want to play for only offers you the minimum instead of the MLE, when that extra money could be used to make the roster even better and pay a guy that could actually use it? Work with us here, John!

[donemilio21]

We needed a point guard, and we got one. I think from the point guards that were available via FA or trade, I think we got the best one for the price.
I think I see us following this move with a trade, especially if we bring back Batum.

[esqtvd]

Not to overanalyze a deal that's not even official yet, but imagine playing 40 games in 3 years while making 120M or whatever it was, then getting paid another 41M just to leave. So are you really going to feel offended that a contender you want to play for only offers you the minimum instead of the MLE, when that extra money could be used to make the roster even better and pay a guy that could actually use it? Work with us here, John!

I like this argument but if I were the Rockets, as a condition of the buyout I would insist that Wall not make a fool of us, and at least take the Clippers TPE.

The Rockets paid him $44M this year to sit on his ass--and it was THEIR CHOICE. They didn't want John Wall coming in and winning games and messing up their draft position!!! 5-10 more wins and you're in crapshoot territory instead of top 3!!


Wall played chicken with the Rockets and won. But since I have to pay you another $47M whether you sit and stay anyway, I'm not going to let you humiliate me too.

Now I could be wrong and I hope you're right--if the Clips sign Wall for the minimum then we can sign Hartenstein [or Drummond???] for the TPE. So if we don't, this would explain why. As I wrote in the OP, John Wall is worth $200M. I don't think he's that greedy over the last 2%. That's tip money.

[TheNewEra]

Damn Wall wants all of his money

Yah, but he had them over a barrel. If I'm Wall, there are only a half-dozen teams worth playing for, and LAC is my first, second, and third choice. Miami maybe my 4th. Otherwise I sit home with my $150M in the bank and the Rockets still owe me $47 million.

Rockets must have given him permission to go find a team or else it would be tampering. But anything less than the TPE--and as Kyrie found out, that's all that's out there unless you want to join some dogspit Siberia like the Kings--the Rockets stay fine, stay home then. We're not giving you a buyout just to save the league minimum.

Wall ended up on the team he wanted and still walked away with all the dough. He played his hand masterfully. That's the kind of IQ you want in your point guard.

Yeah I’m not losing sleep over giving him the 6 mil if needed. Still have the TPE and vet min for a lose use big

[madmaxmedia]

Damn Wall wants all of his money

Yah, but he had them over a barrel. If I'm Wall, there are only a half-dozen teams worth playing for, and LAC is my first, second, and third choice. Miami maybe my 4th. Otherwise I sit home with my $150M in the bank and the Rockets still owe me $47 million.

Rockets must have given him permission to go find a team or else it would be tampering. But anything less than the TPE--and as Kyrie found out, that's all that's out there unless you want to join some dogspit Siberia like the Kings--the Rockets stay fine, stay home then. We're not giving you a buyout just to save the league minimum.

Wall ended up on the team he wanted and still walked away with all the dough. He played his hand masterfully. That's the kind of IQ you want in your point guard.

TBH Wall deserves all of it, it’s the Rockets who told him to stay home. AFAIK Wall has only been a trooper while being passed around the league and wasting whatever prime he has left.

[esqtvd]

We needed a point guard, and we got one. I think from the point guards that were available via FA or trade, I think we got the best one for the price.
I think I see us following this move with a trade, especially if we bring back Batum.

we have some nice spare parts to offer who are NBA-quality rotation depth

upgrade the 5

[madmaxmedia]

Wall played chicken with the Rockets and won. But since I have to pay you another $47M whether you sit and stay anyway, I'm not going to let you humiliate me too.

Now I could be wrong and I hope you're right--if the Clips sign Wall for the minimum then we can sign Hartenstein [or Drummond???] for the TPE. So if we don't, this would explain why. As I wrote in the OP, John Wall is worth $200M. I don't think he's that greedy over the last 2%. That's tip money.

If Wall is amenable to less then great, otherwise Clippers will not risk trying to get too cute with this. My guess is it’s gonna be the $6M.

[madmaxmedia]

Haven't seen him on the court in a while, but Wall can run an offense, he has the ability to defend, well, he did, I don't know how much the injury has impacted him. His shooting of course is not reliable, but he does enough other things well. If he his healthy and productive, he certainly changes a lot for the Clippers in terms of plugging a need.

I really like seeing the ball in PG’s hands despite the TO’s, but it’s obvious he gets stretched a little thin when he has to do it too much over the course of a game- especially against good defenses.

Sometimes you worry about whose getting shots, but we got a team of pros and I think almost to a man they just want to win. The main issue is gonna be bench PT, but hopefully a consolidation trade is still coming.

[nickhx2]

we need that move for john collins, STAT

[Clemenza]

Low risk-high reward. Let's Go! Wall is getting ready to jump start the career again

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[clipsfever]

Nerlens Noel for "free" into our Ibaka trade exception if Big Hart is gone?

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumors-anfernee-simons-kevon-looney-gary-payton-ii-nerlens-noel/

[Kelphus]

Wow. This type of event shakes my belief in the Clippers Curse.

OK, it's only for one year, but if it gets him and us a ring, yay

[Darko Miliminutes]

When he's off it's a terrible thing to watch. Big Beal fan so i watched a ton of Wall games early years with the wiz. He is an absolute black hole when he's off a takes a lot of long 2's and his attitude can really suck. I always thought of him as a mental midget. RJ played waaaay too many mins and it could really be felt in the late games so another pg was definitely needed.

And we all know just how bloody good he is when he's on so here's hoping for the Wall that can dominate, unlikely never able to like he once could but he does have a tremendous skill set when his head's on right and his condition isn't too bad. ***** But i have to add that he is NOT clutch.

[Wammy Giveaway]

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This is NOT A BIG 3. Wall may have five All-Star appearances which were made in a row, but he hasn't made an All-Star Game since 2018, all in part due to injury. These days, he is more of a role star, or if Jackson retains his starting spot, a role player. Wall is now relegated to winning a Sixth Man award (and the Clippers are great at that given their history). Sorry, but the Clippers are still a Dynamic Duo of Leonard-George.

If the Clippers are going to claim they have a Big 3, here's the only way they can prove it:

John Wall must make the All-Star Game this upcoming season.

[clipperlover]

Once they sign Wall, can we please make one more move?

Trade Morris to Boston in some kind of a deal that nets us Marcus Smart. Our D would be unreal and wouldn't let up.

[Roscoe Sheed]

Once they sign Wall, can we please make one more move?

Trade Morris to Boston in some kind of a deal that nets us Marcus Smart. Our D would be unreal and wouldn't let up.

moreso they need a big man. Ideally, Miles Turner- but I don't think the Clippers have what Indiana wants

[nickhx2]

with zubac's extension i don't really see turner in the cards for us, but most importantly i doubt we'd have the assets that they'd want in return.

like coulddddddd we make it work if they wanted morris (why?), mann or kennard, and boston? sure, but if they're signaling rebuild, i don't see what morris is doing for them.

but, you know: this FO seems to consistently get more done with less, so if a dream like that (or john collins) comes true, i just can't say i'd be surprised.

[NickP]

Once they sign Wall, can we please make one more move?

Trade Morris to Boston in some kind of a deal that nets us Marcus Smart. Our D would be unreal and wouldn't let up.

No way Boston agrees to that.

[esqtvd]

This is NOT A BIG 3. Wall may have five All-Star appearances which were made in a row, but he hasn't made an All-Star Game since 2018, all in part due to injury. These days, he is more of a role star, or if Jackson retains his starting spot, a role player. Wall is now relegated to winning a Sixth Man award (and the Clippers are great at that given their history). Sorry, but the Clippers are still a Dynamic Duo of Leonard-George.

If the Clippers are going to claim they have a Big 3, here's the only way they can prove it:

John Wall must make the All-Star Game this upcoming season.

I think Wall will become our 3rd most valuable player, but a Big Three? Nah. We don't need no Big Three. We need a Great Eight.