CP3 Part Deux?

[esqtvd]

Nice pick up. Not sure about the minutes, but it's a good problem to have. L Frank did everything I was hoping for, pretty excited for the upcoming season.

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[Clemenza]

We'll see what happens. Hoping for the best, but

[donemilio21]

If he plays 57 regular season games, he will crack into the top 10 in career games played, he has Clifford Robinson, Reggie Miller, Jason Kidd, Tim Duncan and Jason Terry between him and the 10th spot right now.

[og15]

We'll see what happens. Hoping for the best, but

Yup, exactly, trying to be some sort of 13-14 Spurs except without the young Kawhi player on the roster.

CP played 82 last season, let's see if he can repeat that, especially with fewer minutes.

[og15]

Nice pick up. Not sure about the minutes, but it's a good problem to have. L Frank did everything I was hoping for, pretty excited for the upcoming season.

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In the online interview on the other thread from yesterday, he mentions that whomever we're bringing in needs to know what role they will have and are signing up for.

I know Doc if we're going far back had some grumblings in the past of guys signing up thinking they had opportunity for certain roles that wasn't the case and were disappointed.

Frank was making it clear that they are transparent with guys about what the role will be, and if they sign, they know what they are expecting. So that's good.

[Ballings7]

I don't mind it, and at this point, is comparable in terms of role (and probably better in ways) than the other options out there (Brogdon, Joseph, D. Wright, etc).

He will be a backup more often than not, and probably won't be finishing that many games (barring injuries).

Addresses having another legit playmaker.. past the utility abilities of wings like Kawhi, Bogi, Dunn, Beal.

Also will add some legit shooting punch, and selective crafty scoring in the paint. Smart player on both ends, too. I just hope Lue doesn't get carried away with Paul/Harden line ups.. unless Beal is just off, or out, etc.

Fine move.

[og15]

I don't mind it, and at this point, is comparable in terms of role (and probably better in ways) than the other options out there (Brogdon, Joseph, D. Wright, etc).

He will be a backup more often than not, and probably won't be finishing that many games (barring injuries).

Addresses having another legit playmaker.. past the utility abilities of wings like Kawhi, Bogi, Dunn, Beal.

Also will add some legit shooting punch, and selective crafty scoring in the paint. Smart player on both ends, too. I just hope Lue doesn't get carried away with Paul/Harden line ups.. unless Beal is just off, or out, etc.

Fine move.

I wonder how much Paul touched the paint for shots (or in general) last season, maybe I'll check later, but probably wasn't getting there much, right?

[Ballings7]

I don't mind it, and at this point, is comparable in terms of role (and probably better in ways) than the other options out there (Brogdon, Joseph, D. Wright, etc).

He will be a backup more often than not, and probably won't be finishing that many games (barring injuries).

Addresses having another legit playmaker.. past the utility abilities of wings like Kawhi, Bogi, Dunn, Beal.

Also will add some legit shooting punch, and selective crafty scoring in the paint. Smart player on both ends, too. I just hope Lue doesn't get carried away with Paul/Harden line ups.. unless Beal is just off, or out, etc.

Fine move.

I wonder how much Paul touched the paint for shots (or in general) last season, maybe I'll check later, but probably wasn't getting there much, right?

Primarily he was an off-dribble jumpshooter or passer; but still was opportunistic on positional close-layups, floaters, short jumpers.

Off-hand, but some examples here:

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[clipperlover]

Waste of a roster spot. Harden does enough flopping we don't have a need there. Do we have a need for a nut puncher?

Can't wait for Patrick Beverley to come to a home game with a traffic cone outfit.

Lakers gets Marcus Smart who is a great defensive addition and only a couple of years removed from DPOY. We get to waste a roster spot.

Guess Frank felt we needed a 2025-2026 P.J. Tucker role.

[Ballings7]

Waste of a roster spot. Harden does enough flopping we don't have a need there. Do we have a need for a nut puncher?

Can't wait for Patrick Beverley to come to a home game with a traffic cone outfit.

Lakers gets Marcus Smart who is a great defensive addition and only a couple of years removed from DPOY. We get to waste a roster spot.

Guess Frank felt we needed a 2025-2026 P.J. Tucker role.

Smart will still be decent for what he's been best at in his career (defense, hustle, playmaking, streaky 3PTer), but he isn't the same player he was at the end of his Boston run, on a regular basis.

Could he have some kind of a resurgence with reduced offensive responsibility, in compairson to Boston? Yes, but his agility, burst isn't the same anymore from what I've gathered.

[esqtvd]

I don't mind it, and at this point, is comparable in terms of role (and probably better in ways) than the other options out there (Brogdon, Joseph, D. Wright, etc).

He will be a backup more often than not, and probably won't be finishing that many games (barring injuries).

Addresses having another legit playmaker.. past the utility abilities of wings like Kawhi, Bogi, Dunn, Beal.

Also will add some legit shooting punch, and selective crafty scoring in the paint. Smart player on both ends, too. I just hope Lue doesn't get carried away with Paul/Harden line ups.. unless Beal is just off, or out, etc.

Fine move.

I wonder how much Paul touched the paint for shots (or in general) last season, maybe I'll check later, but probably wasn't getting there much, right?

Primarily he was an off-dribble jumpshooter or passer; but still was opportunistic on positional close-layups, floaters, short jumpers.

Off-hand, but some examples here:

Watch on YouTube

The right elbow is CP's spot.Midrange jumper, sort of in the paint.

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[HardenGoat]

Last year we saw a 50 win team without Kawhi most of the year. Unfortunately we lost the star version of Powell in the process and over played Harden down the stretch to get there. The goal this year has to be to get to the playoffs with some gas in the tank and the team now has solid depth. I can see Beal having a huge boost in production similar to what Powell saw with Harden. Collins was a great addition adding a legit lob threat that can shoot well especially mid range finishing. He adds size and can keep Kawhi in his natural 3 position. Collins can also small ball along with either Harden or CP3 allowing Zu to take breaks. Lopez is a solid backup center as well. Back to backs are now not going to be such a grind. Harden can be rested too, CP3 knows how to take the point guard duties over for him. I think this was an amazing off season. You need vets to win a chip and we got some good ones here.

[TrueLAfan]

Waste of a roster spot. Harden does enough flopping we don't have a need there. Do we have a need for a nut puncher?

Can't wait for Patrick Beverley to come to a home game with a traffic cone outfit.

Lakers gets Marcus Smart who is a great defensive addition and only a couple of years removed from DPOY. We get to waste a roster spot.

Guess Frank felt we needed a 2025-2026 P.J. Tucker role.

Well, that’s (way) too much. CP3 played well last year. He was a valuable player—a starter—on a very young team that was playing near .500 ball when their superstar got hurt. (The Spurs were 23-28 when Wemby went down for the season.) He sores less, but enough to keep teams honest—and hits enough threes to keep defenders out on him. He’s still a great playmaker and savvy player all around. I like Chris Paul.

But.

He was a starter last year and played 82 games and 2300 minutes. He’ll be lucky to get 60% of that this year. Maybe that’s what he wants. I have him at the #4 guard in the rotation—maybe #5

Harden
Beal
Bogie (we need the bench scoring punch)
Dunn or CP3

He’ll be fighting with Dunn for minutes. At this point, Dunn is a better defender and rebounder. Paul is a better playmaker and more efficient scorer. I’m not sure picking up a third PG was the right move. But it’s no shade on CP3. I think he’s better suited, even in his 21st year, to being a 6th or 7th man, instead of a 10th man like he’s likely to be here.

(And, wow, I couldn’t disagree more about Marcus Smart. I think he’s a good pickup for the Lakers. I also think his injury record makes him questionable to play a lot of games or minutes and, like Ballings7 said, his defense has suffered a bit because of age and injuries—and defense is his calling card. We’ll have to see how much he’s lost on that end and how much he can play, and those are huge, huge question marks. I think the Lakers would have been better off with Chris Paul who, despite his age, is a better scorer, shooter, and passer, and seems more durable at this point in his career.)

[esqtvd]

Dunn can't play the point or even bring the ball up that well. TO machine Harden's not great at bringing it up either; we are very vulnerable to a full-court press when we have the lead. Dunn also only shot 68.2% on FTs last year. CP3 (92.4%) will see more minutes than we expect at the end of games.

[Captain Ballmer]

Dunn can't play the point or even bring the ball up that well. TO machine Harden's not great at bringing it up either; we are very vulnerable to a full-court press when we have the lead. Dunn also only shot 68.2% on FTs last year. CP3 (92.4%) will see more minutes than we expect at the end of games.

This 100%. Check my sign, we lost hou, okc, minny 0-11 last season

[playaloc916]

I think we'll just have to see how things go... Too early to say how he'll fit in with the current roster, but at least we dont have to worry about him being an unpredictable player like Russ or KPJ. Seems like he genuinely wants to be with the team, so I'm hopeful.

[KL2]

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[esqtvd]

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Never forget--BALLMER's fingerprints are on everything.

[MartinToVaught]

Yup, exactly, trying to be some sort of 13-14 Spurs except without the young Kawhi player on the roster.

And without the coaching, system, leadership, or championship-winning culture.

[Clemenza]

Not starting is one thing, but CP3 will not accept DNP's whatsoever.