Trade Idea Thread

GuyverX · Post #21 » by **GuyverX** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:24 pm

1 year rental of Marion for our top 5 center on a long term, bargain contract? No thank you.

Downtown · Post #22 » by **Downtown** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:27 pm

Well that's a very interesting trade idea. On one hand you get Marion, who would add more athleticism to the team while still providing the rebounding, and possibly more, than Kaman does. How could Baron Davis not like the idea of getting out and running with two wingmen like Marion and Thornton on either side?

On the other hand you lose that big, solid body in the middle in Kaman and that veteran presence in Mobley, who can rise to the occasion in close, pressure situations late in games. Has Kaman really regressed or is it a matter of it being preseason and perhaps the lingering effect of his injury? Sure Camby can play center as well as Kaman, but he isn't as durable to bang with younger, stronger centers. Power forward might keep him a little more fresh over the course of the season. Is Eric Gordon ready to step into the starting shooting guard role? Can Ricky Davis handle backup there? Is Taylor really that good that he can run the point while Baron Davis plays the two? Lots of questions arise when factoring out Mobley.

All in all this is a good trade, but one that adds in some questions as well. I don't know the man, but I would think that Marion would fit in with the Clippers group and like to play in the spotlight of LA. Plus since he's showcasing himself for another contract he should be motivated.

Post #23 » by **GameTime_3** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:48 am

How about this deal?

Haslem,Shawn Marion,Marcus Banks For Kaman,Mobley,Tim Thomas,Novak/700k Filler?

Your teams would look like this
Camby
Haslem
Marion-Thortan
Ricky D-Gordan
B-Diddy-Banks

vinzanity · Post #24 » by **vinzanity** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:08 pm

GameTime_3 wrote:How about this deal?

Haslem,Shawn Marion,Marcus Banks For Kaman,Mobley,Tim Thomas,Novak/700k Filler?

Your teams would look like this
Camby
Haslem
Marion-Thortan
Ricky D-Gordan
B-Diddy-Banks

What makes you think the Heat would be interested in this?

GuyverX · Post #25 » by **GuyverX** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:48 am

vinzanity wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:How about this deal?

Haslem,Shawn Marion,Marcus Banks For Kaman,Mobley,Tim Thomas,Novak/700k Filler?

Your teams would look like this
Camby
Haslem
Marion-Thortan
Ricky D-Gordan
B-Diddy-Banks

What makes you think the Heat would be interested in this?

What makes you think the Clippers would be interested in this? :lol:

Post #26 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:10 am

vinzanity wrote:
What makes you think the Heat would be interested in this?

kaman, 26, top 5 center, good long term contract

vs.

marion, 30, sf, expiring contract looking for a huge deal

tough one.

ClipperDomination · Post #27 » by **ClipperDomination** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:53 am

GuyverX wrote:
vinzanity wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:How about this deal?

Haslem,Shawn Marion,Marcus Banks For Kaman,Mobley,Tim Thomas,Novak/700k Filler?

Your teams would look like this
Camby
Haslem
Marion-Thortan
Ricky D-Gordan
B-Diddy-Banks

What makes you think the Heat would be interested in this?

What makes you think the Clippers would be interested in this?

+1

Hoops23 · Post #28 » by **Hoops23** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:46 pm

GuyverX wrote:
vinzanity wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:How about this deal?

Haslem,Shawn Marion,Marcus Banks For Kaman,Mobley,Tim Thomas,Novak/700k Filler?

Your teams would look like this
Camby
Haslem
Marion-Thortan
Ricky D-Gordan
B-Diddy-Banks

What makes you think the Heat would be interested in this?

What makes you think the Clippers would be interested in this?

+2

As a Heat fan, I'd love to have a deal that centered aroun Marion and Kaman.

How about Marion, Cook and Banks for Kaman and Mobley?

ClipperDomination · Post #29 » by **ClipperDomination** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:40 pm

As stated earlier.

Kaman's big body/upside > 1 year rental of Marion.

Roscoe Sheed · Post #30 » by **Roscoe Sheed** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:02 pm

The Clips should hang on to Kaman. It is difficult to find a true center these days. Instead, I think the Clips should pursue Vince Carter. Perhaps Mobley and Thomas could get it done?

ClipperDomination · Post #31 » by **ClipperDomination** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:08 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:The Clips should hang on to Kaman. It is difficult to find a true center these days. Instead, I think the Clips should pursue Vince Carter. Perhaps Mobley and Thomas could get it done?

Or perhaps not going after VC in order to be active in the 2010 market...

Post #32 » by **mkwest** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:24 am

I actually wanted us to bring in Vince for Thomas/Mobley, but that was with the assumption that Brand would be back and Maggette would be traded for a pg. Now that everything has chaned, saving them and Camby for a potential signing or two in 2010 is the way to go.

kombayn · Post #33 » by **kombayn** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:30 pm

Jason Hart needs to go, quickly. The Clippers need to get a solid back-up PG who has only a year or two left on their deal. Right now I'm happy with Mobley at SG but I would love to upgrade if possible. Other than that here's the players I'm willing to part with at the moment.

Mike Taylor, Jason Hart, Cuttino Mobley, Steve Novak, Tim Thomas, Brian Skinner & Paul Davis.

Mike Taylor & Steve Novak I rather keep but may need to be involved in a deal for just a decent back-up PG. Someone serviceable, anyone have any ideas?

skillz213 · Post #34 » by **skillz213** » Thu Nov 6, 2008 1:11 pm

I wanna trade Dunleavy Sr. for a competent coach and strip him of his GM duties. Any other GM would fire the coach of an under performing squad that's losing by a margin of 20+ points through 5 games.

jgustav1 · Post #35 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:44 am

kombayn wrote:Jason Hart needs to go, quickly. The Clippers need to get a solid back-up PG who has only a year or two left on their deal. Right now I'm happy with Mobley at SG but I would love to upgrade if possible. Other than that here's the players I'm willing to part with at the moment.

Mike Taylor, Jason Hart, Cuttino Mobley, Steve Novak, Tim Thomas, Brian Skinner & Paul Davis.

Mike Taylor & Steve Novak I rather keep but may need to be involved in a deal for just a decent back-up PG. Someone serviceable, anyone have any ideas?

I wanted to trade Hart and Mobley in a previous post dated 10/4 and still feel the same way. A guy like Jamal Crawford could possibly be acquired for Mobley and maybe one other player on your list but I don't think he would be that much of an upgrade over Mobley. He does have the ability to run the team as a PG in addition to playing SG. The end of the Clipper bench isn't exactly filled with players other teams would value very highly.

jgustav1 · Post #36 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:49 am

skillz213 wrote:I wanna trade Dunleavy Sr. for a competent coach and strip him of his GM duties. Any other GM would fire the coach of an under performing squad that's losing by a margin of 20+ points through 5 games.

I agree, I don't think he would be pleased in giving up the coaching duties and becoming a full-time GM. He has made some good moves in the offseason like acquiring Camby, but made a mistake in trading for Jason Hart. Drafting Korolev should have been a sign that he may not be a top notch GM.

Post #37 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 7:21 am

The difference between Brevin Knight and Jason Hart is pretty minimal, not exactly justification for stripping the man of the duties he took over not even two months ago. As for Korolev, would Granger really have made that much of a difference? Does he get the Clippers in to the 8th seed in 2006? Maybe he does, who knows, but it I don't believe he would steer the direction of this franchise in a better direction. He's put up good numbers in Indy, but hasn't proved that he will put your team over the top. Had Dunleavy passed been the guy who passed on Chris Paul for Marvin Williams, then yeah I'd be calling for his head too, but GM's passing on good players late in the lottery isn't uncommon and isn't reason to want to fire the guy. Dun hardballed the hell out of Denver, got Camby when things were looking bleak and is not trying to integrate the guy after an unfortunate pre-season. Wanting Dunleavy is fired is premature and a result of frustration. Give it time guys.

NY The Truth · Post #38 » by **NY The Truth** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 6:21 pm

how about

David Lee
Jamal crawford
Zach randolph or Qrich

for

Camby
eric gordon
Tthomas or Mobley

jgustav1 · Post #39 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 7:04 pm

loflin3hree5ive wrote:The difference between Brevin Knight and Jason Hart is pretty minimal, not exactly justification for stripping the man of the duties he took over not even two months ago. As for Korolev, would Granger really have made that much of a difference? Does he get the Clippers in to the 8th seed in 2006? Maybe he does, who knows, but it I don't believe he would steer the direction of this franchise in a better direction. He's put up good numbers in Indy, but hasn't proved that he will put your team over the top. Had Dunleavy passed been the guy who passed on Chris Paul for Marvin Williams, then yeah I'd be calling for his head too, but GM's passing on good players late in the lottery isn't uncommon and isn't reason to want to fire the guy. Dun hardballed the hell out of Denver, got Camby when things were looking bleak and is not trying to integrate the guy after an unfortunate pre-season. Wanting Dunleavy is fired is premature and a result of frustration. Give it time guys.

Granger isn't a superstar but has shown the ability to be a solid NBA starter, there was no justification for drafting a guy like Korolev who belonged in the second round, if that, ahead of him. Last year, they did well in picking up Thornton, but they could have picked up a guy like Rodney Stuckey to help the backcourt if Granger was already on the team. These kind of moves would have changed the dynamics of the team.

jgustav1 · Post #40 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Nov 9, 2008 7:05 pm

NY The Truth wrote:how about

David Lee
Jamal crawford
Zach randolph or Qrich

for

Camby
eric gordon
Tthomas or Mobley

Too many long term contracts and guys like David Lee that will need a new deal. Pass.