ROUND 1, GAME 1: Mavericks @ Clippers Saturday 1:30PM PDT

[RingColluder]

look pretty much like i expected them to

a team that hasn't put too many games together on a whole

definitely think putting beverley back into the starting lineup was a bad idea, as well. reggie earned it and they're used to him. instead we have jackass bev in foul trouble (again) in meaningful games (again).

I hope this opinion changed after the 1st quarter ended..

He needs to be BENCHED the rest of this series. Unless you want Brunson scoring 20 a game.

[RingColluder]

PG definitely had a mediocre first half

That first half was not "mediocre," it was an unmitigated disaster. If he had actually been mediocre in the first half, we would have won this game by double digits.

Could not agree anymore. +1000


The downplaying of just how awful and disastrous PG was (as usual) is one of most shocking things here.

[Clemenza]

We had role players like Bev, Zu, Batum, Rondo all playing terrific - Kawhi had an absolute monster game and PG got it going in the 4th and we still lost by 10. This Mavs team is firing on all cylinders and we look totally disjointed and unsure of our team identity.


Great decision deciding "rest" and avoiding the Lakers was more important than figuring out the team's continuity

We got totally outplayed today and I give the Mavs all the credit in the world. They look like the better team, despite the talent differential we have in our favor.

PG definitely had a mediocre first half but Kawhi didn't give us much at all in the second half outside that poster dunk. He finished up the game badly. Not pitting players as he played well overall but he was far from having a "monster game". This was about Mann not getting minutes and nothing from Morris and Reggie

Just like last year the same old thing. Kawhi is forced to CARRY THE TEAM ON HIS BACK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND AND THIRD QUARTERS because CERTAIN PLAYERS are not doing **** for us and we're down 10.

Iso post up score
Iso post up score
Iso drive kick it for a 3
Iso get fouled

And that's all the gameplan is. Paul George did not have a "mediocre" first half, he had an AWFUL DISASTROUS first half. You cannot start the game with THREE AIRBALLS going 1-7 in the 1st half!!! Inexcusable!! Without Kawhi we would have lost this game by 20, and had PG even played up to "Average" in the 1st half we'd have been easily up by 10 and not in the situation at the end.

Morris didn't do anything (unusual) and Reggie didn't do anything (as usual) - Put in T MANN!

Now you want to pit players. Bad first half from PG no doubt but still contributed with rebounds, defense, and knocked down free throws. He kind of carried the third quarter for us actually. Solid game from Kawhi but not a "monster game". Just my opinion. No need for exclamation marks after every sentence.

[RingColluder]

Can't wait for everybody to say "stop panicking" blah blah blah.


Clippers aint earned that.
I'm panicking.

This team is mentally weak.

Well that makes 2 of us finally

I'm deeply concerned. Absolutely 0 chemistry on this team.

[Clemenza]

PG definitely had a mediocre first half

That first half was not "mediocre," it was an unmitigated disaster. If he had actually been mediocre in the first half, we would have won this game by double digits.

Shooting yeah. 1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team. But alright, I'll concede.. he had a horrible first half.

[RingColluder]

PG definitely had a mediocre first half but Kawhi didn't give us much at all in the second half outside that poster dunk. He finished up the game badly. Not pitting players as he played well overall but he was far from having a "monster game". This was about Mann not getting minutes and nothing from Morris and Reggie

Just like last year the same old thing. Kawhi is forced to CARRY THE TEAM ON HIS BACK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND AND THIRD QUARTERS because CERTAIN PLAYERS are not doing **** for us and we're down 10.

Iso post up score
Iso post up score
Iso drive kick it for a 3
Iso get fouled

And that's all the gameplan is. Paul George did not have a "mediocre" first half, he had an AWFUL DISASTROUS first half. You cannot start the game with THREE AIRBALLS going 1-7 in the 1st half!!! Inexcusable!! Without Kawhi we would have lost this game by 20, and had PG even played up to "Average" in the 1st half we'd have been easily up by 10 and not in the situation at the end.

Morris didn't do anything (unusual) and Reggie didn't do anything (as usual) - Put in T MANN!

Now you want to pit players. Bad first half from PG no doubt but still contributed with rebounds, defense, and knocked down free throws. He kind of carried the third quarter for us actually. Solid game from Kawhi but not a "monster game". Just my opinion. No need for exclamation marks after every sentence.

So it went from, "mediocre" to "bad" to now "horrible". Ok good. At least we can agree on the proper wording now finally. He is a MAX player stop treating him like he's Nick Batum on a minimum deal who can equally get rebound, defend and knock down FT's. "Kind of carried us in the third quarter"? Are we watching the same game?


Again, we were down TEN when Lue called the time out in the 1st quarter and proceeded to play the next stretch ALL THROUGH KAWHI : iso basket, iso basket, steal, drive to the rim kick it for 3. Literally 80-90% ball possession all through Kawhi. It' snot about him scoring 50 pts a game it's HOW He's scoring the ball when the entire Mavs team is keyed in on him knowing full well all other options have been exhausted.


The point of getting another max star with Kawhi was to relieve him of energy and duties not make it even MORE taxing for him to play games because his teammate can't even find the rim for the first quarter. If he agrees to get rid of $29 million in cap space a year than yes we can find the positives when he shoots this awfully in the most important games of the season.

[TheNewEra]

We can’t lose this series

[RingColluder]

We can’t lose this series

Kawhi is gone if we're out round 1 and we're stuck on a capped out team with you know who for the next 3-4 years. Lottery Knicks Carmelo Anthony era all over - our star gets 35pts a game while we lose games by 15 and are a perennial bottom 5 team in the west.

[Clemenza]

Just like last year the same old thing. Kawhi is forced to CARRY THE TEAM ON HIS BACK IN THE FIRST AND SECOND AND THIRD QUARTERS because CERTAIN PLAYERS are not doing **** for us and we're down 10.

Iso post up score
Iso post up score
Iso drive kick it for a 3
Iso get fouled

And that's all the gameplan is. Paul George did not have a "mediocre" first half, he had an AWFUL DISASTROUS first half. You cannot start the game with THREE AIRBALLS going 1-7 in the 1st half!!! Inexcusable!! Without Kawhi we would have lost this game by 20, and had PG even played up to "Average" in the 1st half we'd have been easily up by 10 and not in the situation at the end.

Morris didn't do anything (unusual) and Reggie didn't do anything (as usual) - Put in T MANN!

Now you want to pit players. Bad first half from PG no doubt but still contributed with rebounds, defense, and knocked down free throws. He kind of carried the third quarter for us actually. Solid game from Kawhi but not a "monster game". Just my opinion. No need for exclamation marks after every sentence.

So it went from, "mediocre" to "bad" to now "horrible". Ok good. At least we can agree on the proper wording now finally. He is a MAX player stop treating him like he's Nick Batum on a minimum deal who can equally get rebound, defend and knock down FT's. "Kind of carried us in the third quarter"? Are we watching the same game?


Again, we were down TEN when Lue called the time out in the 1st quarter and proceeded to play the next stretch ALL THROUGH KAWHI : iso basket, iso basket, steal, drive to the rim kick it for 3. Literally 80-90% ball possession all through Kawhi. It' snot about him scoring 50 pts a game it's HOW He's scoring the ball when the entire Mavs team is keyed in on him knowing full well all other options have been exhausted.


The point of getting another max star with Kawhi was to relieve him of energy and duties not make it even MORE taxing for him to play games because his teammate can't even find the rim for the first quarter.

I already know how this is going to go in the game thread on PG.. So what about the horrid play of Reggie and Morris all game long? No Mann, no Kennard, no Cousins in this one. The nightmare of Zu being switched on Luka, etc.

[MartinToVaught]

1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team.

Yeah, but that's just not good enough for the $190 million he's making. Look at how Middleton played earlier today - that's what we should be getting from PG. Instead we're getting a glorified role player who can't shoot, but "at least he contributes."

Like it or not, he has to be traded this offseason while he still has name-brand value.

[RingColluder]

Now you want to pit players. Bad first half from PG no doubt but still contributed with rebounds, defense, and knocked down free throws. He kind of carried the third quarter for us actually. Solid game from Kawhi but not a "monster game". Just my opinion. No need for exclamation marks after every sentence.

So it went from, "mediocre" to "bad" to now "horrible". Ok good. At least we can agree on the proper wording now finally. He is a MAX player stop treating him like he's Nick Batum on a minimum deal who can equally get rebound, defend and knock down FT's. "Kind of carried us in the third quarter"? Are we watching the same game?


Again, we were down TEN when Lue called the time out in the 1st quarter and proceeded to play the next stretch ALL THROUGH KAWHI : iso basket, iso basket, steal, drive to the rim kick it for 3. Literally 80-90% ball possession all through Kawhi. It' snot about him scoring 50 pts a game it's HOW He's scoring the ball when the entire Mavs team is keyed in on him knowing full well all other options have been exhausted.


The point of getting another max star with Kawhi was to relieve him of energy and duties not make it even MORE taxing for him to play games because his teammate can't even find the rim for the first quarter.

I already know how this is going to go in the game thread on PG.. So what about the horrid play of Reggie and Morris all game long? No Mann, no Kennard, no Cousins in this one. The nightmare of Zu being switched on Luka, etc.

Look at my first post in this thread: A MASSIVE issue was playing Reggie those awful minutes NOT putting in T Mann and letting Brunson get anything he wanted. Morris played awful too, very unlike him. I'd move Ibaka or Batum in for Morris next game or QUICK if he plays bad to start.

TMann is desperately needed.

I actually liked Zu's minutes a lot defensively, Luka was constantly switching onto guys. Even with good defenders like Morris on him on deep 3's contested he still made them. It happens.

What we CAN'T allow is people like Brunson to look like All Star's because Reggie Jackson is on them.. PUT IN T MANN!!

[Clemenza]

1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team.

Yeah, but that's just not good enough for the $190 million he's making. Look at how Middleton played earlier today - that's what we should be getting from PG. Instead we're getting a glorified role player who can't shoot, but "at least he contributes."

Like it or not, he has to be traded this offseason while he still has name-brand value.

Middleton hasn't done much in the post season either as the #2 guy as the Bucks are just as disappointing as we are in the playoffs. But all good. We'll move on from PG once the season is up if we flameout again

[RingColluder]

1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team.

Yeah, but that's just not good enough for the $190 million he's making. Look at how Middleton played earlier today - that's what we should be getting from PG. Instead we're getting a glorified role player who can't shoot, but "at least he contributes."

Like it or not, he has to be traded this offseason while he still has name-brand value.

Could not agree more (again, surprising heh). Glorified role player is being generous. And good luck getting absolutely ANYTHING in return for Paul George this offseason given his bloated contract if we plays like how he did today. Not even the Knicks would take him.

[RingColluder]

1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team.

Yeah, but that's just not good enough for the $190 million he's making. Look at how Middleton played earlier today - that's what we should be getting from PG. Instead we're getting a glorified role player who can't shoot, but "at least he contributes."

Like it or not, he has to be traded this offseason while he still has name-brand value.

Middleton hasn't done much in the post season either as the #2 guy as the Bucks are just as disappointing as we are in the playoffs. But all good. We'll move on from PG once the season is up

People are going to be in for the rudest surprise when there is barely any market for PG this offseason. We'll be lucky to get even 1 first rounder for him.

Middleton I'm not a big fan either of, but at least he understands his role and doesn't let ego get in the way of what's best for the team.

[playaloc916]

Reggie passed up on a couple of open 3's and ended up taking mostly bad shots. If he's not going to contribute with his biggest strengths, either hitting 3's, or driving in for layups, he needs to sit down and they need to put in Kennard or Mann. Shake this damn roster up. Don't wait until the last game to throw a hail mary. Luka is just too damn good to just do the same thing for game 2 and hope for a different result. The way he was nonchalantly hitting those step back 3s on Zubac made me wonder if someone put some invisible string on the ball and was pulling it through the hoop.

And I don't know if the Mavs usually shoot like this, but hopefully the team does a better job of contesting or they just miss more next game.

[UnFadeable21]

They need to start Rondo so the teams gets to better starts. Pat bev needs to be a bench role player.

Ty Lue getting out coached so far.

[RingColluder]

Reggie passed up on a couple of open 3's and ended up taking mostly bad shots. If he's not going to contribute with his biggest strengths, either hitting 3's, or driving in for layups, he needs to sit down and they need to put in Kennard or Mann. Shake this damn roster up. Don't wait until the last game to throw a hail mary. Luka is just too damn good to just do the same thing for game 2 and hope for a different result. The way he was nonchalantly hitting those step back 3s on Zubac made me wonder if someone put some invisible string on the ball and was pulling it through the hoop.

And I don't know if the Mavs usually shoot like this, but hopefully the team does a better job of contesting or they just miss more next game.

Kennard is equally as bad if not worse somehow defensively. Mann could not have played any better this season and yet still gets 0 minutes. Even TMAnn could give Luka a challenge.

Luka did the EXACT same thing last season to the Clippers w the deep 3's, shouldn't be a surprise.

The Mavs didn't even play that good - like us they were consistently on and off from 3, the only bright spot was Brunson throughout (and Luka of course). Porzingis played horrible. With Carlisle at the helm this series and "dynasty" is DONE with a game 2 loss.

[MartinToVaught]

1-7 is terrible but he still contributed to the team.

Yeah, but that's just not good enough for the $190 million he's making. Look at how Middleton played earlier today - that's what we should be getting from PG. Instead we're getting a glorified role player who can't shoot, but "at least he contributes."

Like it or not, he has to be traded this offseason while he still has name-brand value.

Could not agree more (again, surprising heh). Glorified role player is being generous. And good luck getting absolutely ANYTHING in return for Paul George this offseason given his bloated contract if we plays like how he did today. Not even the Knicks would take him.

PG has fooled a lot of sucker front offices in his career, including ours. I don't think he's untradeable.

[TheNewEra]

Damn this got to 11 pages lol

[playaloc916]

Reggie passed up on a couple of open 3's and ended up taking mostly bad shots. If he's not going to contribute with his biggest strengths, either hitting 3's, or driving in for layups, he needs to sit down and they need to put in Kennard or Mann. Shake this damn roster up. Don't wait until the last game to throw a hail mary. Luka is just too damn good to just do the same thing for game 2 and hope for a different result. The way he was nonchalantly hitting those step back 3s on Zubac made me wonder if someone put some invisible string on the ball and was pulling it through the hoop.

And I don't know if the Mavs usually shoot like this, but hopefully the team does a better job of contesting or they just miss more next game.

Kennard is equally as bad if not worse somehow defensively. Mann could not have played any better this season and yet still gets 0 minutes. Even TMAnn could give Luka a challenge.

Luka did the EXACT same thing last season to the Clippers w the deep 3's, shouldn't be a surprise.

The Mavs didn't even play that good - like us they were consistently on and off from 3, the only bright spot was Brunson throughout (and Luka of course). Porzingis played horrible. With Carlisle at the helm this series and "dynasty" is DONE with a game 2 loss.

I don't know if I would agree with the Mavs not playing that good... They shot 50% overall, 47% from 3, and were slightly behind the Clips in all other categories. I agree that Porzingis played badly, but if he didn't bring their averages down slightly, they would've played almost flawlessly...

Kennard would help with the offense, Mann would help with defense. In this game, the 3's were not falling for us. Mavs shot 47% from deep, we shot 28%. Morris played 32 minutes, had only 8 fga's, and was 0-6 from 3. Again, this goes back to FG distribution. Where are the multiple passes leading to open 3's?

Someone better be kicking someone's asses in the locker room. If the Clips don't win convincingly in game 2, the team is ****ed.