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Post#221 » by TheNewEra » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:13 am

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Guess they had a sit down among the three of them to avoid any drama. Trez knows he is still in a contract year but he will have to be patient. Next series will have similar issues with the Nuggets or Jazz
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Post#223 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:19 am

Watching the replay now. This Curry dude is good,almost as good as his brother. :)
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Post#224 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:49 pm

Proud of this team.
Proud of the adjustments made going into this game.

Shotout to Sham.
Shotout to Marcus Morris.

Paul George is exactly who I thought he was and that is scary AF considering what it may take to beat the Lakers.
This is why I was never a true fan of Kawhi making us trade for this guy. Just sign here and let this great FO figure the rest of it out.
Nonetheless, I hoped Kawhi's influence and Doc's coaching would help PG exercise some of his demons in the postseason. He needs to get it together. We aren't beating LAL if he plays poorly.
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Post#225 » by Quake Griffin » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:52 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Take notes, PG:

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Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
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Post#226 » by TucsonClip » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:13 pm

Kawhi wasn't coming without him. Doesn't mean he won't want Giannis next summer. :)
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Post#227 » by NippySudz » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:14 pm

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MartinToVaught wrote:Take notes, PG:

Read on Twitter

Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
Kawhi is the only reason pg is here

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Post#228 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:06 pm

Jimmy Butler would be better,he was FA no need for trades just to ship Gallinari.
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Re: Game 3 - 6PM PST TNT 

Post#229 » by playaloc916 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:08 pm

NippySudz wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Take notes, PG:

Read on Twitter

Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
Kawhi is the only reason pg is here

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Yeah, I think it was kind of a combo deal... You get PG or I'm not signing with you... Of course, that might've been a bluff and he might've sign regardless, but that is the very nature of negotiations... I think Kawhi would make a great poker player, you can't tell what he's thinking, lol.
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Post#230 » by esqtvd » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:21 pm

On a semi-related note, we sure dodged a bullet here:

    Tobias Harris has yet to make a three-pointer in the NBA playoffs.


https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/tobias-harris-sixers-has-been-slumping-this-series-20200822.html
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Post#231 » by MartinRiggs » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:23 pm

:lol:

Also trading Blake was amazing move,no matter how mad I was at the time. :D
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Post#232 » by NippySudz » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:36 pm

playaloc916 wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
Kawhi is the only reason pg is here

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Yeah, I think it was kind of a combo deal... You get PG or I'm not signing with you... Of course, that might've been a bluff and he might've sign regardless, but that is the very nature of negotiations... I think Kawhi would make a great poker player, you can't tell what he's thinking, lol.
I still think it will pay off. Eventually it'll click for him to stop being passive. Like it did for Lowry last year.

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Post#233 » by nickhx2 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:12 pm

eh, i'm really not worried about paul george. you could tell after his mishaps early on he put a lot of focus into playmaking and defense. this is a guy whose shot is pure. he will figure it out and even if it takes a while, he's doing a lot of other positive things.

PG could literally shoot this poorly all series and as long as harrell/shamet keep improving, the team will just keep getting better and better.

btw, how about morris and zubac? morris was my biggest concern since we traded for him and this guy has been quietly solid all 3 games. and you gotta give a lot of credit to zubac. doc didn't have a lot of faith in him but he's just always doing his best and not complaining. he was so good for us last night. as far as doc, yeah you wish he'd have come around sooner on zubac, but hey, he got there and now we're better off for it.

i just hope doc continues to keep his faith in him, as well as shamet.
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Post#234 » by esqtvd » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:06 pm

nickhx2 wrote:eh, i'm really not worried about paul george. you could tell after his mishaps early on he put a lot of focus into playmaking and defense. this is a guy whose shot is pure. he will figure it out and even if it takes a while, he's doing a lot of other positive things.

PG could literally shoot this poorly all series and as long as harrell/shamet keep improving, the team will just keep getting better and better.

btw, how about morris and zubac? morris was my biggest concern since we traded for him and this guy has been quietly solid all 3 games. and you gotta give a lot of credit to zubac. doc didn't have a lot of faith in him but he's just always doing his best and not complaining. he was so good for us last night. as far as doc, yeah you wish he'd have come around sooner on zubac, but hey, he got there and now we're better off for it.

i just hope doc continues to keep his faith in him, as well as shamet.



IMO, Zu is a cut above where he was in March. He's a tad quicker and in better shape, and with a ton of film study and now a mentor in Noah, seems to get caught watching far less--which is when he gets Doc's hook. [Like when he went minus-13 in the first 5 minutes of Game 2.] Add in the fact that Trezz is not all the way back--he missed not only 5 months of play but most of the restart ramp-up too--Zubac is the choice.


Doc's faith in Senior is starting to pay off bigtime, and now Shamet would be an incredible bonus. He could have given up on both but that's not how Doc rolls. If you've proven you do it once in the NBA, you can probably do it again and Doc's going to give you every chance. That's a feature, not a flaw.

As for PG, it's all here. He's still a heckuva player.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden


    "I'm not worried about it," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said. "He's a great player. He's human. I can guarantee you this, he has not forgotten how to shoot. It will fall for him."

    Teammate Kawhi Leonard -- who scored 36 points in Game 3 and is shooting 34-for-66 (51.5%) while averaging 33.3 points in this series -- said George would snap out of his shooting funk.

    "I mean, he's good," Leonard said. "We all start from scratch again Game 4. You shoot 100% from 3 in two games, three games, doesn't mean you're going to shoot well going forward. It's all from scratch again. This is playoff basketball.

    "He's a confident player, he's going to turn it around. We got his back."
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Re: Game 3 - 6PM PST TNT 

Post#235 » by Quake Griffin » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:20 am

NippySudz wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:Take notes, PG:

Read on Twitter

Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
Kawhi is the only reason pg is here

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Doesn't mean he will want that in the summer of 2021.
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Post#236 » by NippySudz » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:21 am

Quake Griffin wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:Nah...take notes front office.

Kawhi may not want to play with a Playoff Punk when summer 2021 comes around.
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Doesn't mean he will want that in the summer of 2021.
Maybe. Let's see if they win the chip to see if that's the case.

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Post#237 » by NippySudz » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:59 am

esqtvd wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:eh, i'm really not worried about paul george. you could tell after his mishaps early on he put a lot of focus into playmaking and defense. this is a guy whose shot is pure. he will figure it out and even if it takes a while, he's doing a lot of other positive things.

PG could literally shoot this poorly all series and as long as harrell/shamet keep improving, the team will just keep getting better and better.

btw, how about morris and zubac? morris was my biggest concern since we traded for him and this guy has been quietly solid all 3 games. and you gotta give a lot of credit to zubac. doc didn't have a lot of faith in him but he's just always doing his best and not complaining. he was so good for us last night. as far as doc, yeah you wish he'd have come around sooner on zubac, but hey, he got there and now we're better off for it.

i just hope doc continues to keep his faith in him, as well as shamet.



IMO, Zu is a cut above where he was in March. He's a tad quicker and in better shape, and with a ton of film study and now a mentor in Noah, seems to get caught watching far less--which is when he gets Doc's hook. [Like when he went minus-13 in the first 5 minutes of Game 2.] Add in the fact that Trezz is not all the way back--he missed not only 5 months of play but most of the restart ramp-up too--Zubac is the choice.


Doc's faith in Senior is starting to pay off bigtime, and now Shamet would be an incredible bonus. He could have given up on both but that's not how Doc rolls. If you've proven you do it once in the NBA, you can probably do it again and Doc's going to give you every chance. That's a feature, not a flaw.

As for PG, it's all here. He's still a heckuva player.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden


    "I'm not worried about it," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said. "He's a great player. He's human. I can guarantee you this, he has not forgotten how to shoot. It will fall for him."

    Teammate Kawhi Leonard -- who scored 36 points in Game 3 and is shooting 34-for-66 (51.5%) while averaging 33.3 points in this series -- said George would snap out of his shooting funk.

    "I mean, he's good," Leonard said. "We all start from scratch again Game 4. You shoot 100% from 3 in two games, three games, doesn't mean you're going to shoot well going forward. It's all from scratch again. This is playoff basketball.

    "He's a confident player, he's going to turn it around. We got his back."

I think he's always been the same player. just not given a chance to show it in certain matchups even when it was favorable to do so. He's not DPOY as some people want you to be believe but seeing no fourth quarter mins. Hell no second half mins in some of the regular season games was just bad. You have to play him if you want him to get experience. especially if the matchup is favourable.

I think trezz not being in the bubble was an opportunity for zubac to contribute to this team in major ways. Its paying off. I suspect had trezz been in the bubble from the start, it would have been a late revelation. Probably too late.
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Post#239 » by esqtvd » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:33 am

NippySudz wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:eh, i'm really not worried about paul george. you could tell after his mishaps early on he put a lot of focus into playmaking and defense. this is a guy whose shot is pure. he will figure it out and even if it takes a while, he's doing a lot of other positive things.

PG could literally shoot this poorly all series and as long as harrell/shamet keep improving, the team will just keep getting better and better.

btw, how about morris and zubac? morris was my biggest concern since we traded for him and this guy has been quietly solid all 3 games. and you gotta give a lot of credit to zubac. doc didn't have a lot of faith in him but he's just always doing his best and not complaining. he was so good for us last night. as far as doc, yeah you wish he'd have come around sooner on zubac, but hey, he got there and now we're better off for it.

i just hope doc continues to keep his faith in him, as well as shamet.



IMO, Zu is a cut above where he was in March. He's a tad quicker and in better shape, and with a ton of film study and now a mentor in Noah, seems to get caught watching far less--which is when he gets Doc's hook. [Like when he went minus-13 in the first 5 minutes of Game 2.] Add in the fact that Trezz is not all the way back--he missed not only 5 months of play but most of the restart ramp-up too--Zubac is the choice.


Doc's faith in Senior is starting to pay off bigtime, and now Shamet would be an incredible bonus. He could have given up on both but that's not how Doc rolls. If you've proven you do it once in the NBA, you can probably do it again and Doc's going to give you every chance. That's a feature, not a flaw.

As for PG, it's all here. He's still a heckuva player.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden


    "I'm not worried about it," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said. "He's a great player. He's human. I can guarantee you this, he has not forgotten how to shoot. It will fall for him."

    Teammate Kawhi Leonard -- who scored 36 points in Game 3 and is shooting 34-for-66 (51.5%) while averaging 33.3 points in this series -- said George would snap out of his shooting funk.

    "I mean, he's good," Leonard said. "We all start from scratch again Game 4. You shoot 100% from 3 in two games, three games, doesn't mean you're going to shoot well going forward. It's all from scratch again. This is playoff basketball.

    "He's a confident player, he's going to turn it around. We got his back."

I think he's always been the same player. just not given a chance to show it in certain matchups even when it was favorable to do so. He's not DPOY as some people want you to be believe but seeing no fourth quarter mins. Hell no second half mins in some of the regular season games was just bad. You have to play him if you want him to get experience. especially if the matchup is favourable.

I think trezz not being in the bubble was an opportunity for zubac to contribute to this team in major ways. Its paying off. I suspect had trezz been in the bubble from the start, it would have been a late revelation. Probably too late.


a) WATCH the action
b) To CONFIRM your "eye test" watch the RUNNING plus/minus during a game


https://www.espn.com/nba/scoreboard

That way you can separate your feelings from reality. Game 2 started with the Clippers down 15-2. Doc yanked Zubac for Trezz who promptly went PLUS+7 and got us back into the game.

Fact.

The scoreboard doesn't lie. Every move Doc makes is borne out by the stats. Pay attention. In Game 3, although Trezz had good offensive stats, his plus/minus was crap. Doc YANKED Trezz after 5 minutes and gave Zubac the lion's share of the remaining minutes and only gave Trezz PT when we are up by a bunch.

No, Zu is not the same player he was back in March--he's better. Unfortunately, Trezz isn't the same player he was back in March either, when he was 6MOY in the whole NBA. The irony is that Doc's critics are the ones who aren't making adjustments. They're saying the same vulture BS over and over they said 6 months ago.

6 years ago!! Same whining over and over, blaming the coach for every failure by the players on the court. It's sick.


Update your software. Cut the BS. WATCH THE DAMN GAME. This is supposed to be fun. We're gonna win this f***er!!
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Post#240 » by NippySudz » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:40 am

esqtvd wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

IMO, Zu is a cut above where he was in March. He's a tad quicker and in better shape, and with a ton of film study and now a mentor in Noah, seems to get caught watching far less--which is when he gets Doc's hook. [Like when he went minus-13 in the first 5 minutes of Game 2.] Add in the fact that Trezz is not all the way back--he missed not only 5 months of play but most of the restart ramp-up too--Zubac is the choice.


Doc's faith in Senior is starting to pay off bigtime, and now Shamet would be an incredible bonus. He could have given up on both but that's not how Doc rolls. If you've proven you do it once in the NBA, you can probably do it again and Doc's going to give you every chance. That's a feature, not a flaw.

As for PG, it's all here. He's still a heckuva player.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden


    "I'm not worried about it," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said. "He's a great player. He's human. I can guarantee you this, he has not forgotten how to shoot. It will fall for him."

    Teammate Kawhi Leonard -- who scored 36 points in Game 3 and is shooting 34-for-66 (51.5%) while averaging 33.3 points in this series -- said George would snap out of his shooting funk.

    "I mean, he's good," Leonard said. "We all start from scratch again Game 4. You shoot 100% from 3 in two games, three games, doesn't mean you're going to shoot well going forward. It's all from scratch again. This is playoff basketball.

    "He's a confident player, he's going to turn it around. We got his back."

I think he's always been the same player. just not given a chance to show it in certain matchups even when it was favorable to do so. He's not DPOY as some people want you to be believe but seeing no fourth quarter mins. Hell no second half mins in some of the regular season games was just bad. You have to play him if you want him to get experience. especially if the matchup is favourable.

I think trezz not being in the bubble was an opportunity for zubac to contribute to this team in major ways. Its paying off. I suspect had trezz been in the bubble from the start, it would have been a late revelation. Probably too late.


a) WATCH the action
b) To CONFIRM your "eye test" watch the RUNNING plus/minus during a game


https://www.espn.com/nba/scoreboard

That way you can separate your feelings from reality. Game 2 started with the Clippers down 15-2 Doc yanked Zubac for Trezz who promptly went PLUS+7 and got us back into the game.

The scoreboard doesn't lie. Every move Doc makes is borne out by the stats. In Game 3, although Trezz had good offensive stats, his plus/minus was crap. Doc YANKED Trezz after 5 minutes and gave Zubac the lion's share of the remaining minutes and only gae Trezz PT when we are up by a bunch.

No, Zu is not the same player he was back in March--he's better--and unfortunately, Trezz isn't the player he was back in March either. The irony is that Doc's critics are the ones who aren't making adjustments. They're saying the same vulture BS over and over they said 6 months ago.

6 years ago!!

Update your software. Cut the BS. WATCH THE DAMN GAME. This is supposed to be fun. We're gonna win this f***er!!


+/- isn't the end all be all though. Doc made adjustments to how Zubac was played, He switched zubac off actions to stop middle penetration

Read on Twitter

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That's great coaching adjustment by doc. That has nothing to do with Zubac being bad. That's a good adjustment.

Also, Kawhi Leonard was a +1 for game 3. Again, Plus/minus isn't the end all be all. WATCH THE GAME(s). :wink:

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