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[Scoundreldays]

Maybe at the start of every game thread I should say we suck and are going to get blown out so we play amazing.

The old Costanza method.

Off topic: did you guys see what Luka just did to the Knicks? I know he torches us a lot, but 60/21/10 is on a whole other level.

I saw the end. Absolutely insane!

[Scoundreldays]

Maybe at the start of every game thread I should say we suck and are going to get blown out so we play amazing.

The old Costanza method.

Off topic: did you guys see what Luka just did to the Knicks? I know he torches us a lot, but 60/21/10 is on a whole other level.

I saw the end. Absolutely insane!

[Roscoe Sheed]

Maybe at the start of every game thread I should say we suck and are going to get blown out so we play amazing.

The old Costanza method.

Off topic: did you guys see what Luka just did to the Knicks? I know he torches us a lot, but 60/21/10 is on a whole other level.

to blow a lead like that in so little time basically requires that everything goes wrong for you and everything goes right for them. However, the Knicks did make some free throws, so they did a few things right, but turnovers and lack of rebounding really hurt them.

[esqtvd]

interesting phenomenon

why coaching is more an art than a science

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This guy is such a liar, it makes my skin crawl just listening to him. He had to be forced by the front office to play Shai instead of Avery **** Bradley when he was actually on the team. Not only that, but when he was the GM, every single move he made was a disaster. He never won a single trade, ever. The same guy who traded a first-round pick for a few months of Jeff Green now wants to fret about the value of other people's trades.

If only Glenn put this much effort into coaching his teams rather than making up revisionist history for his failures.

[wco81]

This guy is such a liar, it makes my skin crawl just listening to him. He had to be forced by the front office to play Shai instead of Avery **** Bradley when he was actually on the team. Not only that, but when he was the GM, every single move he made was a disaster. He never won a single trade, ever. The same guy who traded a first-round pick for a few months of Jeff Green now wants to fret about the value of other people's trades.

If only Glenn put this much effort into coaching his teams rather than making up revisionist history for his failures.

I'm not saying there aren't legit reasons to call out Doc at every opportunity.

But he's been gone 2 or 3 years now?

Maybe if the Clippers win a title, you will forgive but not forget?

[esqtvd]

Just the usual distortions and Doc derangement douchebaggery lol.

As a matter of fact, Doc was starting all three of Bradley, Shai and Beverley SIDE BY SIDE. And winning.

[MartinToVaught]

This guy is such a liar, it makes my skin crawl just listening to him. He had to be forced by the front office to play Shai instead of Avery **** Bradley when he was actually on the team. Not only that, but when he was the GM, every single move he made was a disaster. He never won a single trade, ever. The same guy who traded a first-round pick for a few months of Jeff Green now wants to fret about the value of other people's trades.

If only Glenn put this much effort into coaching his teams rather than making up revisionist history for his failures.

I'm not saying there aren't legit reasons to call out Doc at every opportunity.

But he's been gone 2 or 3 years now?

Maybe if the Clippers win a title, you will forgive but not forget?

As long as Glenn keeps spreading lies about his tenure here, the fans who suffered through it have every right to point out what actually happened.

[esqtvd]

I'm not saying there aren't legit reasons to call out Doc at every opportunity.

Doc developed raw rookie Shai [one season in college] into an effective NBA starter. And made the playoffs while doing so. Shai played 28 minutes in his first NBA game and was starting by his 10th game. Don't fall for the bllshtt, man.

[TrueLAfan]

Shai played 82 games as a rookie, and played as much as Ayton and only about 125 minutes less than Luka, for Christ's sake. They minutes were consistent too--other than that little lull he had aroun d the All Star Game, he played about 25-29 mpg every month. It is what it is.

Anyway, I want to get back to the Clippers now. We don't need a backup C. We need a big. Huge difference. Andre Drummond is a backup C. He'd be useless to us. We need a 6'9"-6'10" guy that can play adequately at C, is mobile enough to stay with quick PFs, and can rebound and hit some threes. Al Horford is the Ur-version. Bobby Portis is a great example. Wendell Carter. Zach Collins. A guy that could play alongside Zu, and shift to the 5 when rotations changed and bench players come on the court. We need a guy like that, and Mook ain't it.

Also--look, I love Reggie. It's just that we want him to be a smart ballplayer, and that isn't what he is it. He's a balls out, erratic guy. He just is. And we need a guy to run the offense that is not like that--an unspectacular guy that is tough and gets the job done. I'd kill to have Tyus Jones right now.

[esqtvd]

Shai played 82 games as a rookie, and played as much as Ayton and only about 125 minutes less than Luka, for Christ's sake. They minutes were consistent too--other than that little lull he had aroun d the All Star Game, he played about 25-29 mpg every month. It is what it is.

Anyway, I want to get back to the Clippers now. We don't need a backup C. We need a big. Huge difference. Andre Drummond is a backup C. He'd be useless to us. We need a 6'9"-6'10" guy that can play adequately at C, is mobile enough to stay with quick PFs, and can rebound and hit some threes. Al Horford is the Ur-version. Bobby Portis is a great example. Wendell Carter. Zach Collins. A guy that could play alongside Zu, and shift to the 5 when rotations changed and bench players come on the court. We need a guy like that, and Mook ain't it.

Also--look, I love Reggie. It's just that we want him to be a smart ballplayer, and that isn't what he is it. He's a balls out, erratic guy. He just is. And we need a guy to run the offense that is not like that--an unspectacular guy that is tough and gets the job done. I'd kill to have Tyus Jones right now.

All true but the problem is the same at the 5 as it is at the 1--it's not Zu or Reggie, it's what happens when they leave the floor. Each is adequate. Not great, but adequate. In a perfect world, neither would be starting. In a perfect world Mook wouldn't be starting either. But the Clippers already have the league's most expensive payroll at approximately $192 million, and the second-highest luxury-tax bill ($144.7 million).

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I did a double-post on purpose because not everyone saw the second part. It was thought Spurs would keep Vonleh, but the fact he's getting bought out means Clippers have two more options to consider.

While Dieng is a true center, Clippers may consider Vonleh simply because he is a cent-ward (forward/center hybrid), and they're valuing forwards who can pretend to be point guards, centers, or both.

But some Clipper fans want a more internal solution. Keep an eye out on their G-League affiliate. If no good one pops up, they'll just simply convert one of their two-ways to a standard contract.

[TrueLAfan]

Hmm. I'm a Vonleh guy. I wondered what happened to him in 2022 and 2021—who he’d pissed off, if he forgot to put on the good cologne, whatever. After he got traded from Minny, he was in the wilderness for two and a half years. It’s weird, too … in the three and a half seasons before that, he was solid rotation player and pretty good spot starter; about 6 points and 6 boards a game in around 19 mpg, on 47% shooting--and 32% from 3. He plays both frontcourt positions and has good size. He's an ex-lottery pick and still only 27. He doesn't have injury issues--in 2022, after playing only 4 games the year before, he went to China and averaged 15 and 10 (and 38% from behind the arc) in less than 24 minutes per game. He's an end of bench guy but a good one.

[wco81]

I've never heard any complaints about Blake as a teammate in Detroit or Brooklyn. CP3, on the other hand, got ran out of Houston and now the honeymoon appears to be over in Phoenix.

It's obvious to anyone who isn't agenda-driven who the problems were with Lob City. Since the end of that era, Doc has solidified himself as the worst coach and biggest choke artist in sports history, CP3 has alienated even more teammates and added a few more playoff meltdowns to his resume, DJ has become unplayable now that he's lost a step and only cares about selfishly padding his rebounds, and Austin is barely clinging on to a spot in the league now that he doesn't have his dad force-feeding him minutes and touches. Meanwhile, Blake's been drama-free.

Dang, an Austin Rivers podcast episode popped into my Ringer NBA feed.

I had to look up who was talking after listening for a bit.

My ears, my ears!

He said the Sixth Man Award should be named after Jamal Crawford.

What say you Clippers fans?

[nickhx2]

idk - it's a joke of an award, just like most awards are, so i guess i don't really care

that said i guess i do kinda care because if you actually are trying to name trophies after players who best represent that award then you should actually give it to players who were good/most deserving of those awards. basically i'm saying it should be named after manu.

[KL2]

That exchange with Shannon Sharpe and Brooks, Adams, Ja and his dad was wild.

[nickhx2]

what happened lol

[Dynamix]

Just some trash talking that got out of hand. Also grown ass men sitting on the sidelines trying to make it about themselves.

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[KL2]

Incredible move by the Lakers.

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