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Post#241 » by ejftw » Tue Oct 4, 2016 10:58 pm

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nickhx2 wrote:15 for jj is a bargain


If Austin Rivers is worth 11 million to Doc/Ballmer, he might as well ask for 20 million.

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Lou Will and two 2nd's for JJ :nod:


How about Austin Rivers for D'Angelo Russell & Brandon Ingram?
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Post#242 » by nickhx2 » Tue Oct 4, 2016 11:08 pm

and 2 second rounders

because they're the lakers they would be high second rounders so that'd be nice for us
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Post#243 » by RKL » Wed Oct 5, 2016 5:41 pm

ejftw wrote:
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nickhx2 wrote:15 for jj is a bargain


If Austin Rivers is worth 11 million to Doc/Ballmer, he might as well ask for 20 million.

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Lou Will and two 2nd's for JJ :nod:


How about Austin Rivers for D'Angelo Russell & Brandon Ingram?


:crazy:
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Post#244 » by nickhx2 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 6:32 pm

crazy talk indeed, friend
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Post#245 » by RKL » Wed Oct 5, 2016 6:39 pm

nickhx2 wrote:crazy talk indeed, friend


Right? As if Doc would ever trade his son :nonono:
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Post#246 » by TucsonClip » Thu Oct 6, 2016 2:36 am

Its not about the money, its gonna be about the years Redick wants. I cant see how the core four remains intact if we dont at least make the WCFs.
Plus, why would I want to go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros.

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Post#247 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Oct 8, 2016 4:06 am

I like JJ, but he is ideally a 6th man. He is too short and athletically challenged against good teams with long and athletic wings. The problem is that Crawford and rivers have been signed to extensions. One of the two should be traded. I think Felton is a far superior point guard as compared with rivers. He should run the point off the bench
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Post#248 » by Neddy » Sat Oct 8, 2016 5:32 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I like JJ, but he is ideally a 6th man. He is too short and athletically challenged against good teams with long and athletic wings. The problem is that Crawford and rivers have been signed to extensions. One of the two should be traded. I think Felton is a far superior point guard as compared with rivers. He should run the point off the bench


they both should be traded.
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Post#249 » by QRich3 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:17 am

Redick is definitely gonna get a 4 year deal north of $20M a year, and I hope it's the Clippers who give it to him.

He's one of the best two way SG's in the league, and one of the better possible fits to our core in the whole league. He's gonna age well and to be honest, long wing defenders don't bother him as much as usually stated. Just remember how crucial he was in game 7 against the Spurs the year before last. And there's not many teams in the league with that long and that good wing defenders.
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Post#250 » by mattd13 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:31 pm

have to agree with Q and also like to add that what ever defense he has you get it every night. plus his help defense is very good and always gets back to protect. I will not be getting league pass this year and will not post to much because after 50 years I have had it with the direction the nba has taken.
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Post#251 » by nickhx2 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:40 pm

Read on Twitter


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Post#252 » by og15 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:42 am

It's like a drama lol

Anyways, a ton of people would take Blake Griffin over Carmelo Anthony, nothing revealed there, but hey, if his 15th ranking is motivation for Carmelo, then that's good for him too
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Post#253 » by nickhx2 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:52 am

ya, only one making it a big deal is smith. but honestly i'd do the same thing, and i'd triple down on his personality if it paid me millions of dollars a year

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Post#254 » by UKClipperfan » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:10 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I like JJ, but he is ideally a 6th man. He is too short and athletically challenged against good teams with long and athletic wings. The problem is that Crawford and rivers have been signed to extensions. One of the two should be traded. I think Felton is a far superior point guard as compared with rivers. He should run the point off the bench


Felton's ability to set the table will get him minutes. I don't want Jamal or Austin traded though. Still need their scoring. Austin's a pretty good defender now too. And Felton's not exactly known for being in shape.

The Stephen A thing must be an act. Melo is about 75% of the player he was, while Blake has improved every part of his game. Sure he's lost some athleticism, but he can still get up there if he needs to. Then there's the Knicks bias.
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Post#255 » by og15 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:53 pm

Jamals isolation ability is good for certain situations, but I wouldn't say the team "needs" his scoring if it's not going to be efficient. You can alleviate the need for it with staggered lineups as well as utilizing the new players via pick and roll/pop with Bass and Speights and Austin flanking as a slasher and Johnson as a shooter.
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Post#256 » by QRich3 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:26 pm

Yeah, Jamal's still really good at scoring in isolation, he was the 5th most efficient last year among players with at least 100 such possessions, right between Lillard and Durant. The problem is, even for the best in the league, isolations are still not very efficient possessions. So it's great to have a guy like that for broken plays to bail you out, but the problem, as we know, is when he takes too many of those possessions instead of deferring to say, let the best playmaker in the game and the best roll man in the league run a much more efficient pick'n'roll. If he was ready to be a role player and not bite more than he can chew, he'd be a really valuable piece to have, even with his bad defense. But we know he's never gonna be that.
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Post#257 » by nickhx2 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:33 pm

it's good to have realism when discussing jamal crawford.

not sure how much longer i can stomach people thinking he can stop doing crappy things like shooting too much, and doing more things like catch and shoot at this stage of the game.
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Post#258 » by Neddy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:47 pm

QRich3 wrote:Yeah, Jamal's still really good at scoring in isolation, he was the 5th most efficient last year among players with at least 100 such possessions, right between Lillard and Durant. The problem is, even for the best in the league, isolations are still not very efficient possessions. So it's great to have a guy like that for broken plays to bail you out, but the problem, as we know, is when he takes too many of those possessions instead of deferring to say, let the best playmaker in the game and the best roll man in the league run a much more efficient pick'n'roll. If he was ready to be a role player and not bite more than he can chew, he'd be a really valuable piece to have, even with his bad defense. But we know he's never gonna be that.


whenever he is on the floor, it is obvious that we need the ball out of his hands until the clock in in a single digit. thus I advocate for Felton to be our primary backup PG and not Austin.
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Post#259 » by Neddy » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:50 pm

nickhx2 wrote:it's good to have realism when discussing jamal crawford.

not sure how much longer i can stomach people thinking he can stop doing crappy things like shooting too much, and doing more things like catch and shoot at this stage of the game.


gotta keep his minutes in check. Felton must be the primary ball handler for the second unit or whenever CP3 is not on the floor. hope Doc's nepotism comes through and Austin becomes the primary backup 2 behind JJ and Jamal is a nitch player who comes in on certain situations only.

but we all know Docs gonna go with that dumbass 3 guard unit with Pierce as the PF and a real PF as a C. just gotta hope that C is gonna be Bass.
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Post#260 » by QRich3 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:23 pm

Neddy wrote:
QRich3 wrote:Yeah, Jamal's still really good at scoring in isolation, he was the 5th most efficient last year among players with at least 100 such possessions, right between Lillard and Durant. The problem is, even for the best in the league, isolations are still not very efficient possessions. So it's great to have a guy like that for broken plays to bail you out, but the problem, as we know, is when he takes too many of those possessions instead of deferring to say, let the best playmaker in the game and the best roll man in the league run a much more efficient pick'n'roll. If he was ready to be a role player and not bite more than he can chew, he'd be a really valuable piece to have, even with his bad defense. But we know he's never gonna be that.


whenever he is on the floor, it is obvious that we need the ball out of his hands until the clock in in a single digit. thus I advocate for Felton to be our primary backup PG and not Austin.

Yeah Felton should definitely be our full time back up PG, we'll see if Doc thinks the same. Although I like Austin defending opposing PGs more than anyone else on the bench, and on offense I like him much more playing next to a competent PG like Felton. He is not ready to run an offense by himself, that's for sure. And a lot of the time he shares the backcourt with Crawford, it's Jamal running things, which is probably even worse.

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