GAME 6 Western Semis: NOTE TIME--10 AM Pacific ESPN

NippySudz · Post #241 » by **NippySudz** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:11 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:

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Wow, just wow.

he's ESQTVD now.

Ignoring the fact that trezz has been negative all series and all playoffs. :noway:

Kelphus · Post #242 » by **Kelphus** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:12 pm

I am nauseous. Denver wins it going away.. I think Clippers will finally realize the urgency that they should have had from game 2. I think they win Tuesday, but at what cost? Will game 1 vs. fLakers still be on Wednesday? fLakers have 3 full days rest and Clips have a back to back to start WCF?

Me no likey. Well, the nausea will help with my dieting effort, that's the only positive I can find today.

TheNewEra · Post #243 » by **TheNewEra** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:12 pm

Lmao what a series I swear

TheNewEra · Post #244 » by **TheNewEra** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:13 pm

NippySudz wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:

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Wow, just wow.

he's ESQTVD now.

Ignoring the fact that trezz has been negative all series and all playoffs.

Doc is the Trump of the NBA

MartinToVaught · Post #245 » by **MartinToVaught** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:13 pm

NippySudz wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:

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Wow, just wow.

he's ESQTVD now.

Ignoring the fact that trezz has been negative all series and all playoffs.

I love how he immediately moves the goalposts from plus/minus to game film just so he doesn't have to admit that he's wrong.

Max Headrom · Post #246 » by **Max Headrom** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:14 pm

Everyone outside of PG and Kawhi were trash this game. 9 combined points in 78 minutes from 3 starters isn't gonna cut it

NippySudz · Post #247 » by **NippySudz** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:14 pm

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playaloc916 · Post #248 » by **playaloc916** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:19 pm

NippySudz wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

I said doc was the best remaining coach in the west. I lied. Its vogel. Vogel made the adjustments. Doc did not.

Doc is basically the best "players' coach" in the league. One of the those coaches that gets their team to play hard, but when it comes to X's and O's, or adjustments, is mediocre. Raptors had two of them, and both actually won COY, but never went far in the playoffs. Sam Mitchell and Dwane Casey. As soon as they replaced Casey with Nurse (who was an assistant under Casey), they win it all (of course, they had a little bit of help from the Klaw). Nurse is very good with making adjustments.

I was afraid of the Jazz because I thought Snyder was a better coach than Malone, and yet Malone looks like Popavich right now...

NippySudz · Post #249 » by **NippySudz** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:19 pm

Max Headrom wrote:Everyone outside of PG and Kawhi were trash this game. 9 combined points in 78 minutes from 3 starters isn't gonna cut it

even with that being said, that's not the reason we lost this game. We lost it because of Doc. I'm sorry to keep ragging on him but its true. Our energy was sapped, but so was theirs. Harrell being on the floor gave them energy. He's a terrible defender. He likes to look active but doesn't get in a defensive stance and likes to reach and then guys blows past him. He jumps on every fake. It's just not good. We gave up like 5 points or so because doc elected not to check in zu back in the game and harrell had to contest a 3 and a 2.

We've won games shooting bad with just our defense. The starters were not the reason we lost the game. The team wasn't the reason we lost the game. The reason we lost was because of Doc Rivers.

Clemenza · Post #250 » by **Clemenza** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:20 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:If Doc is still our coach next season, I'm not watching.

The team has tuned him out

esqtvd · Post #251 » by **esqtvd** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:21 pm

playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

MartinToVaught · Post #252 » by **MartinToVaught** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:22 pm

playaloc916 wrote:
NippySudz wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

I said doc was the best remaining coach in the west. I lied. Its vogel. Vogel made the adjustments. Doc did not.

Doc is basically the best "players' coach" in the league. One of the those coaches that gets their team to play hard, but when it comes to X's and O's, or adjustments, is mediocre. Raptors had two of them, and both actually won COY, but never went far in the playoffs. Sam Mitchell and Dwane Casey. As soon as they replaced Casey with Nurse (who was an assistant under Casey), they win it all (of course, they had a little bit of help from the Klaw). Nurse is very good with making adjustments.

I was afraid of the Jazz because I thought Snyder was a better coach than Malone, and yet Malone looks like Popavich right now...

Why can't a so-called "player's coach" convince Trez to accept fewer minutes instead of letting him keep blowing leads? Why can't he get this team to keep playing hard when they get a big lead?

Not buying this "player's coach" stuff. Doc isn't good at that either.

NippySudz · Post #253 » by **NippySudz** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:22 pm

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NippySudz · Post #254 » by **NippySudz** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:24 pm

I'm sitting here watching doc ruin Kawhi's legacy. He was supposed to take a step into another stratosphere of stardom. Now, we got game 7 and possible second round exit.

dreadhead_htx · Post #255 » by **dreadhead_htx** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:25 pm

doc desperately needs to shorten his rotation. he's trying to stick with guys that are playing poorly and we all know kawhi isnt vocal enough so thats where great coachs step in. kawhi can go out and get 40 but seem like the last few games he hasnt had his hands on the ball like he should in the second half and it really doesnt make sense how doc will take him out at such critical times of the game.

playaloc916 · Post #256 » by **playaloc916** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:28 pm

esqtvd wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

Good point. During the regular season, Lou and Trezz pick and roll was almost unstoppable, and Trezz was bullying players and flexing on them. But you could see from his first few games, he was very rusty. And that rust is still there to this day. Lou has taken a nose dive the past few games as well, so the bench is looking very anemic right now. J-Myke has been pretty decent though.

donemilio21 · Post #257 » by **donemilio21** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:29 pm

esqtvd wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

Trezz lost himself tens of millions by taking a month off (the reason is irrelevant as long as it wasn't due to injury) and playing like **** after he came back. He got the 6th man of the year award, but also proved he can't be reliable when things count and more importantly he cannot be a starter in this league and therfore will not get starter money. He'd be lucky to get somoething better than 3 year $24m in a week FA year. Unfortunate but true. I love the guys energy, but only way he can score is pick and roll with Lou.

playaloc916 · Post #258 » by **playaloc916** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:30 pm

NippySudz wrote:I'm sitting here watching doc ruin Kawhi's legacy. He was supposed to take a step into another stratosphere of stardom. Now, we got game 7 and possible second round exit.

Kawhi was going to have legacy of winning two teams their first championship... :nonono:

TheNewEra · Post #259 » by **TheNewEra** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:31 pm

Feel disgusted and glad I missed this one but speeding through rewatch

donemilio21 · Post #260 » by **donemilio21** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:31 pm

donemilio21 wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
playaloc916 wrote:Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

Trezz lost himself tens of millions by taking a month off (the reason is irrelevant as long as it wasn't due to injury) and playing like **** after he came back. He got the 6th man of the year award, but also proved he can't be reliable when things count and more importantly he cannot be a starter in this league and therfore will not get starter money. He'd be lucky to get something better than 3 year $24m in a week FA year. Unfortunate but true. I love the guys energy, but only way he can score is pick and roll with Lou.

a good coach would have seen this after the Dallas series and would push him out of the 8 man rotation in Denver series. Doc is to blame here for playing an unready and mismatched Trezz this many minutes so far.