Trade Idea Thread II

[Neddy]

.... then we probably should pass on those numbskulls too.....

[Det the Threat]

I dont think we will have any luck in getting allen but if we did i would be so crazy happy. I have a trade idea that benefits us but at the same time hurts us bit. What do you guys think about trading Gomes, Bledsoe and cook to washington for blatche, mcgee and young? dont try to work in the trade machine because it will not work but mcgee and young fit right into both our trade exceptions. we come up much better in this trade but take on blatche's salary that reports indicate washingtons will trade players as long as blatche is included in the trade.

What would you think about us trading DJ, Caron and Bledsoe for Rashard Lewis, Trevor Booker and Jordan Crawford?

That's pretty much what you're asking the Wizards to do here and they sureley wouldn't be OK with that.

I know that Blatche's been on the trade block and that they'd love to get rid of him, but they certainly wouldn't include McGee(who's as good as DJ, but also able to hit some free throws, making him an option at the end of close games) and Nick Young for that kind of package.


To me, the most realistic trades this deadline for us are the ones using our TPE and maybe a 2nd rounder for a guy like Raja Bell, DeShawn Stevenson, Carlos Delfino, Mike Dunleavy, Marco Bellinelli or maybe even Tracy McGrady.
Those ain't sexy, but at least possible, with us hardly having anything of value to offer while also not being interested to take on longterm contracts.

If those ain't happening, then we'll most likely wait and see who gets cut/bought out to try and add one or even two of those guys.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/deadline-deci ... lean-house check it out?

1) It's hoopsworld and not all that credible.

2) I've read about them wanting to get rid of Blatche, but that there most likely won't happen anything at all, cause hardly anyone's interested in him.

3) The wiretap here at realgm just has a story up that says McGee wants $14 mil per year. No thanks.

[mkwest]

3) The wiretap here at realgm just has a story up that says McGee wants $14 mil per year. No thanks.

But he is special

In all seriousness, I think the Wizards need to consider waiving Lewis is in the offseason (partially guaranteed for $13M) and using the amnesty on Blatche. Nobody wants Blatche for 3 1/2 more seasons for the $30M he's owed.

McGee has great physical tools. He's more advanced than DJ in areas, but he's a knucklehead. I really do feel bad for the Wizards and their fans. They have talented players, but it's the mentality of the players that makes them a poor bunch to build around. They need competency and structure around the players that they do choose to build around. They need a no nonsense coach and to alleviate themselves of a few headaches. In the draft, choose a player that is a team player, a leader, committed to defense, etc.

[LOJ]

The Wizards need group theraphy more than anything.

[Angel strike1]

to be honest young wasnt really what we needed since we needed 3 point shooter.

but he is a solid shooter. good ft shoots and we got him for free.

[Kapono's Sweatband]

to be honest young wasnt really what we needed since we needed 3 point shooter.

but he is a solid shooter. good ft shoots and we got him for free.

- Makes 1.8 3PFG a game shooting 37.1%
- Has hit 4 in a game twice this month already (SAS and GSW)
- Has hit 7/8 in a game against POR this season
- Career 38% shooter from deep on 3 attempts a game

He is a shooter similar to Billups, attempts a lot of threes (4.9per this season) and they are often difficult shots. I have a feeling he will get many more open looks playing with us and unlike Butler he is a great stand-still shooter.

He fills our need perfectly at 6'7" as well. Most importantly got him for a steaming pile of crap.

[Jodi]

Pistons fan here...What do you guys think of this trade involving D.Jordan?
Pistons get: D.Jordan
Warriors get: Villanueva
Clippers get: Biedrins + Pistons 2012 9th pick

[Angel strike1]

Pistons fan here...What do you guys think of this trade involving D.Jordan?
Pistons get: D.Jordan
Warriors get: Villanueva
Clippers get: Biedrins + Pistons 2012 9th pick

WOULD LOVE THAT!!

9th pick in this draft is going to be big.

and we get to ditch dj's contract. biedrins isnt bad.

[LOJ]

Contrary to what a lot of Clippers fans think, DJ's contract is not bad. We would have a glaring hole at C, and we'll be trading him for a horrible big in Biedrins, and the closest thing to a center for the 9th pick is Tyler Zeller. In that draft after the top 7 or so, there is a big dropoff

No thanks.

10M a year for a big with his potential isn't albatross. If this offseason he works on the little things, and can get us 12/10/2 on a consistant basis with average/above average defense that 10M/y is worth every penny.

[Angel strike1]

Contrary to what a lot of Clippers fans think, DJ's contract is not bad. We would have a glaring hole at C, and we'll be trading him for a horrible big in Biedrins, and the closest thing to a center for the 9th pick is Tyler Zeller. In that draft after the top 7 or so, there is a big dropoff

No thanks.

10M a year for a big with his potential isn't albatross. If this offseason he works on the little things, and can get us 12/10/2 on a consistant basis with average/above average defense that 10M/y is worth every penny.

we can acutually us the 9th pic to trade up. this draft is soo deep its sick.
also we get cap space that we might use to go after howad or a big.


dj is good but he neeeds to work on himself during summer. better foot work bit of jump shot.

but 1 defect is he just isnt bright. he bites on every pump fake in the book.
could be better 1-1 defender


upside? huge.

but hasnt been able to do much with it for few years.

remember you need someone to go up vs likes of bynum. tierd of getting owned by bynum everytime we play the lakers.


also with him in the post blake got to shoot more jumpers. you cant have 2 players that dunk on the floor same time. no spacing.

[clippermitch]

Contrary to what a lot of Clippers fans think, DJ's contract is not bad. We would have a glaring hole at C, and we'll be trading him for a horrible big in Biedrins, and the closest thing to a center for the 9th pick is Tyler Zeller. In that draft after the top 7 or so, there is a big dropoff

No thanks.

10M a year for a big with his potential isn't albatross. If this offseason he works on the little things, and can get us 12/10/2 on a consistant basis with average/above average defense that 10M/y is worth every penny.

$10M for a legit C is a bargain. However, DJ is not a legit C. He has no offensive game and his defense, other than weak side blocks is atrocious.

Here's a list of Centers making less than DJ:

Kendrick Perkins - $8M
Joakim Noah - $10M
Camby - $9M
Dalembert - $7M

[og15]

Dalembert was such a good deal, 2 years / $13.7 million with the second year being a team option. Honestly, if Houston wanted the potential, I wouldn't mind trading DJ for Dalembert, but they wouldn't do that.

[Neddy]

Pistons fan here...What do you guys think of this trade involving D.Jordan?
Pistons get: D.Jordan
Warriors get: Villanueva
Clippers get: Biedrins + Pistons 2012 9th pick

uh-uh. hell no. biedrin's conrtract is toxic and this is a SF rich draft with no center better in this draft to replace DJ, as poor as he is.

[Boneman2]

Pacer fan wanting to know the asking price for Bledsoe.

My assumption is that Bledsoe is not part of the plan moving forward, not that it degrades his value or anything, but I view him as expendable. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Essentially, what's the cost of doing business?

[Det the Threat]

Pacer fan wanting to know the asking price for Bledsoe.

My assumption is that Bledsoe is not part of the plan moving forward, not that it degrades his value or anything, but I view him as expendable. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Essentially, what's the cost of doing business?

That assumption's just wrong.

Bledsoe's shown during the playoffs that he's a valuable player and the #1 option as Chris Paul's backup.

So he would cost quite a bit, if someone wanted to trade for him.

[og15]

Yea, Bledsoe is not a guy the team wants to move, he's a nice backup with some unique skills and has the ability to be used for stretches as a SG.

[OOO]

Pistons fan here...What do you guys think of this trade involving D.Jordan?
Pistons get: D.Jordan
Warriors get: Villanueva
Clippers get: Biedrins + Pistons 2012 9th pick

You would give up the 9th pick for a Center who can't do anything but dunk? I bet Pistons fans are glad you're not their GM.

[Kerrsed]

Saw the talk in your Offseason thread, but figured this would be a better thread to ask in:

I think Frye is definitely one of the best options just because he's on of the few guys that can play PF and C. A lot of the other guys are PF's only, and in order to maintain the shooting presence, Blake or the acquired PF would have to play minutes at C. Frye can do both. I believe Phoenix is most content with keeping him because his contract isn't too bad or hampering, as opposed to Josh Childress who was a terrible contract. If one could sell them on Gomes and Trey Thompkins, that might be an option. I like Trey, but if Frye is acquired and on the team for the next 3 seasons, when will Trey ever play? And I don't believe Trey's potential is as a better player than Frye.

With Frye, Phoenix would pretty much want to dump him. Sarver and the Suns have been frugal in the past, but could be well under the cap if Nash decides to leave as a free-agent. Eric Pincus mentioned something revolving around Mo/Frye. Phoenix does have Aaron Brooks' rights and will have to make decisions on him and Brown. A player like Mo is not necessarily something that they would need if they bring the other 2 guards back.

Just what i came on your board to discuss.

Ok, we are pretty sure Nash is gone. Most likely in FA with a slight chance of a S&T. So once Nash is gone, we will be looking at trading players of value in return for some youngin's with potential for a rebuild. Read a couple of articles talking about how LAC need a stretch 4, and Frye being a good choice. Just as mentioned, he has the benefit of playing PF/C. He does a good job at both positions. The issue i have is there is no way that we would want Mo Will in return. With that being said, what about something like Bledsoe/Thompkins for Frye? Clippers get one of the best stretch 4's in the league, and the Suns get a young PG that can start for us, and a back-up big that we can develop into a poor man's Frye.

[Det the Threat]

Saw the talk in your Offseason thread, but figured this would be a better thread to ask in:

Just what i came on your board to discuss.

Ok, we are pretty sure Nash is gone. Most likely in FA with a slight chance of a S&T. So once Nash is gone, we will be looking at trading players of value in return for some youngin's with potential for a rebuild. Read a couple of articles talking about how LAC need a stretch 4, and Frye being a good choice. Just as mentioned, he has the benefit of playing PF/C. He does a good job at both positions. The issue i have is there is no way that we would want Mo Will in return. With that being said, what about something like Bledsoe/Thompkins for Frye? Clippers get one of the best stretch 4's in the league, and the Suns get a young PG that can start for us, and a back-up big that we can develop into a poor man's Frye.

That wouldn't make any sense at all for us.

Bledsoe's our #1 backup point guard and groomed behind Paul.
That's why we wouldn't give him away in a trade like this, even though it would be nice to have him stretch opposing teams defenses for Griffin and Paul.

The trade you're suggesting also isn't working financially as we're close to the salary cap and with Frye making about $4 mil more then Bledsoe and Thompkins combined.

All things considered:
I don't see the trade you've offered as being a possibility, as we need to fill in some gaps(shooting guard, backup sg, backup sf, backup pf, backup c) and need to get creative to do so.
Therefore a guy like Mo will most likely be available cause he makes over $8 mil and can't be paired with Paul for longer stretches.


So the only reasonable trade I'd see happening is Mo for Frye, with maybe a third team taking on Mo and sending something else to you.

[og15]

It would have to include Gomes to make the salaries work. The team probably won't want to trade Bledsoe because even though there was a glut of guards before, going into the off-season there won't be, and Mo isn't in the long term plans. Of course in addition to that, him impacting games a lot defensively and having good size, speed, jumping ability and potential as a defensive guard and slasher adds to that.

If Mo opts in, the team will be $2M over the cap, and only has exceptions. Bledsoe's ability won't be replaceable by any guard that costs in the same range. Gotta give some to get some, and this is one of those times when a draft pick is valuable.

Two things come into play. One is that if Bledsoe is traded, the team would probably want to unload contracts along with him, but he won't be traded to unload contracts. The second is that due to his playoff performance his value is at a high right now, so the team will both want to keep him, and watch out for what offers are available for him. Remember that he was a holdout player in the deal for Chris Paul, so the FO values him a lot, and even more so now.