Chris Paul to the Rockets

wco81 · Post #441 » by **wco81** » Sun May 12, 2019 12:52 pm

Yeah but it's also quite possible that the Clippers don't get farther than CP3 has, who made the WCF last year.

Now you guys have some promising young players to root for, which you didn't have just over a year ago. But those players may never reach the level of CP3. In fact, it's likely they won't. CP3 has probably made all NBA several times in his career including while on the Clippers?

Clippers have to root for Toronto to lose game 7 to Philly today, which will make it more likely that Kawhi leaves the Raptors.

Post #442 » by **QRich3** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:33 pm

Yeah we might not get a player of his calibre in many years, 1st ballot hall of famers dont grow on trees, but what Quake says is a very good point, if we kept him we’d be on his timetable and it would be hard to build a team that way. At least one that wouldn’t be in hell as he aged. So it’s not always about having the highest ceiling star, but the best team you can build.

wco81 · Post #443 » by **wco81** » Sun May 12, 2019 2:08 pm

THat is true, the $40 million a year contracts are crippling.

But I don't think the intent of the super max or the max contracts was to help build contenders in the first place.

It was to keep franchise cornerstones on teams throughout the leagues, rather than them leaving for bigger markets or other contenders.

The NBAPA just wanted to maximize the payouts to the players and the NBA wanted franchise players to stay put, not leave teams.

Fans just automatically assume that super max players must be able to lead a team to contention but it kept Westbrook in a small market, keeping the Thunder viable in that market, even if it really hampers their championship goals. Same with Wall in Washington and maybe Kemba.

But the assumption is that keeping these big name players on their original teams stabilizes those franchises, even if they don't really contend for titles.

However the NBA has been surprised that superstars will take a $35 million a year contract for a better chance to win. That may still be the case with players like AD, who's leaving money on the table by forcing himself out of NO and may happen with Giannis.

Clemenza · Post #444 » by **Clemenza** » Sun May 12, 2019 4:23 pm

Akklaim1 wrote:Can someone please tell Clipsfansince98 to stop posting so much about the Clippers in GB? Dude just loves to bait everyone so that they will give the Clippers credit on anything he feels like talking about.

Good luck with that. I sent him a pm once to post some of that stuff in here and help this board out a bit but of course that's not happening

madmaxmedia · Post #445 » by **madmaxmedia** » Sun May 12, 2019 4:40 pm

The problem with keeping the Lob City group together is that we were reaching the point of having to spend more and more (including luxury tax) to keep a team that had basically peaked and would be on a slow decline going forward. On top of that both Blake and Chris are somewhat injury-prone. In other words paying more and more for diminishing returns.

That’s not to say we couldn’t still be good, or even had no chance to get better. But with both players eligible for huge contracts the outlook realistically was only going to get harder, and that’s after 2 (IIRC) very disappointing playoffs.

wco81 · Post #446 » by **wco81** » Sun May 12, 2019 5:09 pm

Assumption is the team with CP3 and Blake had hit their ceiling, as they were both eligible for maxes.

Obviously here on RealGM, that wasn't good enough, a 50-55 win team which hadn't been able to get past the second round for various reasons.

But what about among the Clippers fan base at large?

Would there have been a revolt? Would the fans have boycotted attending games or watching games on TV?

If they weren't able to trade CP3 and Blake and get back assets, it was likely a serious rebuild, perhaps a couple of years in the lottery.

Clippers have avoided the rebuild but unless they're able to use that cap space, it may have been for naught.

Ranma · Post #447 » by **Ranma** » Sun May 12, 2019 6:24 pm

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wco81 · Post #449 » by **wco81** » Sun May 12, 2019 9:11 pm

Rockets were capped out so they couldn't sign CP3 outright?

So they were coming off like 53 or 55 wins but got beat in the second round by the Spurs I believe.

So they signed CP3, won 67 games, took the WArriors to 7 games in the WCF.

No way they would have been better than the 2018 Rockets if they didn't make that trade.

Angel strike1 · Post #450 » by **Angel strike1** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:21 pm

this trade was pure magic. we went from straight up losing cp3 to honestly winning the trade.

madmaxmedia · Post #451 » by **madmaxmedia** » Mon May 13, 2019 4:22 am

Both teams 'won' that trade IMO, ideally the best trade opportunities are when 2 teams in different situations help each other out.

I don't know where the Rockets would be now had they not traded for CP3 though, I mean they willingly gave up depth and youth for a superstar of course the more time passes the better it looks for us. Same goes for Blake trade, and Tobias trade to lesser extent.

Ranma · Post #452 » by **Ranma** » Sat May 25, 2019 2:27 am

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Wammy Giveaway · Post #453 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Sat May 25, 2019 4:05 am

There are rumors that the Rockets will look to trade Chris Paul.

NJ.com - Would Rockets Trade Chris Paul After Dust-Up With James Harden

AZ Central - Let's Talk Mike Conley, Chris Paul And Anthony Davis

LeBron Wire (USA Today) - Could Argument With James Harden And Chris Paul Land Paul With Lakers?

Bleacher Report - Why The Rockets Should Trade Chris Paul To The Lakers

NBA Alerts Official - Why The Houston Rockets Should Trade Chris Paul For Anthony Davis

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wco81 · Post #454 » by **wco81** » Sat May 25, 2019 6:31 am

35-year old making over $40 million a year.

Who wants that contract?

Galloisdaman · Post #455 » by **Galloisdaman** » Sat May 25, 2019 11:28 am

wco81 wrote:35-year old making over $40 million a year.

Who wants that contract?

Not many people will want it. Its almost like a no trade clause. Its going to have to take another questionable contract or two going back. John Wall? Parsons? Wiggins? Hayward? Batum?

Ranma · Post #456 » by **Ranma** » Sat May 25, 2019 11:30 am

I also don't see anybody looking to trade for Paul's contract. Even the Lakers, probably won't turn to him unless it's absolutely as a last resort after striking out on the likes of Kemba Walker, Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson and whomever else. The only reason the Lakers may even be interested in Paul at his advanced age and deteriorating state would be the connection with LeBron.

Would King James even be interested in playing with his good buddy at this point? On the other hand, LeBron moved his family out west to retire and make movies in Los Angeles, so why not just realize the Brotherhood dream and bring along Melo while he's at it? Maybe then he'll be able to find cast members for his Space Jam sequel.

Galloisdaman · Post #457 » by **Galloisdaman** » Sat May 25, 2019 12:14 pm

Lakers could go all in for Lebron. Chris Paul, Derozan, and as you mentioned maybe even Melo. It would be one of the craziest rolls of the dice around but who knows? I could see Melo there on a minimum deal but that is a long way from Paul at 42 million.

Wammy Giveaway · Post #458 » by **Wammy Giveaway** » Wed May 29, 2019 3:52 pm

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wco81 · Post #459 » by **wco81** » Wed May 29, 2019 4:12 pm

They've have to give up a lot of picks and other assets to dump that contract.

Ranma · Post #460 » by **Ranma** » Wed May 29, 2019 5:50 pm

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