Doc out!!!!!!!!!

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Hun?

it was a wammy kind of take

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Doc Rivers' future in Philly depends on THIS fu*king guy



https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/76-ers/report-kevin-durant-was-mad-at-james-hardens-conditioning

"Durant was astonished in the opening weeks of the season at Harden's lack of explosiveness and sluggish play, something he attributed in large part to Harden's being out of shape, as he did the ensuing hamstring issues," Arnovitz reported Tuesday.

James Harden claims he is feeling no pressure to perform well in the playoffs with the Philadelphia 76ers.

"Pressure, no. I feel good," Harden said after Thursday's practice at the team's facility here with a smile. "I'm ready to hoop. There's nothing to it."

Joel Embiid said his co-star just needs to be himself, and let everything else take care of itself.

"I tell him to be himself. He's been doing a great job of being the playmaker but we need him to be aggressive and really score the ball, especially against Toronto," Embiid said. "With the way they guard me, we're going to need everybody. We're going to need Tyrese to be aggressive with all the attention that's going to be on me and James, Tyrese, Tobias, all the other guys, they have to make plays. He just has to be himself, and not worry about people talking about pressure. Whatever happened in the past, you look back at what he's accomplished and what he's done, he had to play against a dynasty. It would have been hard for anybody to beat those Golden State teams, so bad timing. But I'm sure it's going to be fine."

Harden also has insisted he is entering the playoffs healthy.

"It's good," Harden said. "I've actually been doing some sprints and some hamstring work this week, so it's a really good week to prepare myself for this first round."

[og15]

it's the coach's fault lol

After shooting 59.2 percent in his first four games as a 76er, Harden is at 36.6 percent in his last 12. That ranks 137th out of 145 players who've taken at least 100 shots since March 7. He's shot better than exactly eight NBA players since March 7.

There's actually a decent chance Doc will get fired: with no bench and starter Matisse Thybulle banned from Canada for the Raptors series over vaccination issues, a first-round loss is quite possible especially with Harden stinking up the joint. Also the rabid Negadelphia media hates him--and the feeling is mutual. [They got Gabe Kapler's scalp--now the very successful manager of the Giants.]

Harden's shooting has been trash, but his playmaking has been very good, and he's still parading his way to the FT line. He's only taking 13.6 FGA/G, but he's attempting 8.9 FTA. The end result has been that Philly Harden still has a 60% TS, and the Sixers offense with the addition of his playmaking has taken off since he arrived (122.3 Ortg with Harden on the court, vs 112.3 without, +10). He ends up not hurting their offense because teams are not going to leave him open even if his percentages are bad, his playmaking helps other guys, and all those FT's still making him an efficient scorer.

The question of course is going to be whether he can maintain that in the post-season.

[the_process]

Has Glenn always been such a pompous ****? He earlier this year dismissed a question by saying "Would you ask Pop that question? No. So don't ask me that question."

I mean, the nads on this dude are way too big for a guy with only one title and a ton of choking. Sixer fans are mostly in favor of firing him already.

[MartinToVaught]

Has Glenn always been such a pompous ****? He earlier this year dismissed a question by saying "Would you ask Pop that question? No. So don't ask me that question."

I mean, the nads on this dude are way too big for a guy with only one title and a ton of choking. Sixer fans are mostly in favor of firing him already.

Yes. I'll never forget the moment where I fully soured on Doc as a coach: the press conference after he blew the Houston series in 2015, when he actually had the nerve to blame his epic chokejob on "the mess he inherited" from our previous front office. We were supposed to forget that he demanded a trade to coach said "mess," or that our roster and assets were better off before he crowned himself as GM.

Doc is a stubborn ass who can never accept when he's wrong and always points the finger at others after he fails. It's why he chokes so much, and it's why he'll never change.

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it's the coach's fault lol

After shooting 59.2 percent in his first four games as a 76er, Harden is at 36.6 percent in his last 12. That ranks 137th out of 145 players who've taken at least 100 shots since March 7. He's shot better than exactly eight NBA players since March 7.

There's actually a decent chance Doc will get fired: with no bench and starter Matisse Thybulle banned from Canada for the Raptors series over vaccination issues, a first-round loss is quite possible especially with Harden stinking up the joint. Also the rabid Negadelphia media hates him--and the feeling is mutual. [They got Gabe Kapler's scalp--now the very successful manager of the Giants.]

Harden's shooting has been trash, but his playmaking has been very good, and he's still parading his way to the FT line. He's only taking 13.6 FGA/G, but he's attempting 8.9 FTA. The end result has been that Philly Harden still has a 60% TS, and the Sixers offense with the addition of his playmaking has taken off since he arrived (122.3 Ortg with Harden on the court, vs 112.3 without, +10). He ends up not hurting their offense because teams are not going to leave him open even if his percentages are bad, his playmaking helps other guys, and all those FT's still making him an efficient scorer.

The question of course is going to be whether he can maintain that in the post-season.

All true--he's not killing them. Unfortunately the 76ers need even more from him than the 19.6 ppg he been put up over the last 10 games. His plus-minus was also greatly helped by playing with defensive ace Matisse Thybulle who is banned from the games in Canada [no vax].

[NickP]

Doc has the audacity to bring Pop up? Pop did more with the level of talent he had. Yes Duncan is a Hall of famer and so is Manu but how many hall of famers has Doc coached?
If Doc had 20% of the coaching acumen Pop has, doc would have had at least 3 rings.

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and Tony Parker and David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard

[NickP]

and Tony Parker and David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard

I can only wonder how stunted Kawhi's growth would have been under doc.

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and Tony Parker and David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard

I can only wonder how stunted Kawhi's growth would have been under doc.

well it's just Wack-a-Mole speculation at this point

Kawhi became an all-star at age 24, in his 5th season

[the_process]

Has Glenn always been such a pompous ****? He earlier this year dismissed a question by saying "Would you ask Pop that question? No. So don't ask me that question."

I mean, the nads on this dude are way too big for a guy with only one title and a ton of choking. Sixer fans are mostly in favor of firing him already.

Yes. I'll never forget the moment where I fully soured on Doc as a coach: the press conference after he blew the Houston series in 2015, when he actually had the nerve to blame his epic chokejob on "the mess he inherited" from our previous front office. We were supposed to forget that he demanded a trade to coach said "mess," or that our roster and assets were better off before he crowned himself as GM.

Doc is a stubborn ass who can never accept when he's wrong and always points the finger at others after he fails. It's why he chokes so much, and it's why he'll never change.

This is exactly what we’ve seen in his two years in Philly.

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This is exactly what we’ve seen in his two years in Philly.

The WIP media dopes booed when they drafted McNabb and chased Gabe Kapler out of town. This is the head dope in Negadelphia who started the calling him Glenn from Day One.




Doc did everything under the sun to save Ben Simmons but still was the scapegoat. Now Daryl Morey traded away all their depth and that's Doc's fault too.

A Look into Doc Rivers’ Continued Defense of Ben Simmons


Otherwise even-keeled, criticism regarding Ben Simmons has been the one thing that has fired up Doc Rivers with the media this season.

Since taking the reins in Philadelphia, Doc Rivers has proved to be the right man for the job. He has pressed all the right buttons on players, and it is tough to argue that he hasn’t maximized the skillset of just about every player. Basketball decisions aside, Rivers also has been a vast change in tone from the head coaching position. Brett Brown and his Brooklyn accent had worn out their welcome, and Doc Rivers and his 22 years of experience were a needed change.

While he typically faces the media with a politician-like suave and answers with even-keeled thoughts, Rivers has continually gotten riled up over one thing, Ben Simmons.

Rivers in the Early Months
From the minute Rivers took over, it was clear he was in Ben Simmons’ corner. Doc immediately attempted to take pressure off of Simmons by talking about how he had no worries regarding his offensive development. Rivers emphasized that he viewed Simmons as a facilitator rather than a scorer and continually refocused the conversation of what Simmons does well. He also was reportedly firmly against trading Ben Simmons when the discussions surrounding James Harden occurred.


Like many who have watched Simmons play, Rivers talked about how impactful Simmons’ game is beyond the stat sheet. Following a victory over the Lakers in January, Doc playfully put it- “the winning things he does is hard to put into numbers.” He has also showered him in praise for his ability to control the team’s pace, creating looks for others, and led a Defensive Player of the Year campaign.


The Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid Relationship
In addition to the criticisms of Simmons’ shooting, Doc Rivers has also worked to squash the rumors surrounding the relationship of Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons. These whispers have grown throughout the four years the two have spent on the court together and seemed to increase during the Jimmy Butler saga.


This narrative has been overblown from the start and one that has lingered on for far too long. While Simmons and Embiid are not an ideal on-court pairing, each are extremely talented basketball players and more than capable of making it work. These issues can also be attributed to an ill-fitting supportive cast, which Daryl Morey has done wonders to fix this season.

Rivers Breaking Point
Following the Sixers’ game four loss to the Wizards, Doc Rivers appeared to hit his breaking point with the media. When a question regarding Ben Simmons lack of scoring in Embiid’s absence and if this was fair criticism was asked, Rivers replied:

“No. But you guys keep this Ben Simmons narrative alive, which to me is freaking insane- how good this guy is and all the things he does. Ben is not a 40 point guy. It’s not what he does, he does other things for your team, and I just don’t understand why that’s not sinking in, in our city. You know, everybody on the team doesn’t have to be a scorer to help the team. Ben scores, but Ben creates scoring for us- that’s what he does. So, you know, if I’m Ben at some point, I’d get tired of it. I just would. Because he’s just too good, and he does so many good things for this basketball team, and I keep saying ‘celebrate him,’ celebrate all the stuff he does well. We don’t do that enough.”

Doc Rivers then had his mic drop moment before walking off when a question regarding Simmons’ free-throw shooting was more specifically asked. Rivers had previously pointed out that he was not upset with Ben splitting his free throws during the “Hack-a-Ben” strategy by the Wizards because one point per possession is pretty good analytically. Rivers said he did not consider taking Ben off the court and, in what turned out to be the final question of the media availability, Doc finished by saying:

“With Ben, we’re gonna keep him on the floor. Unless you guys want us to bench him the whole game. If anybody wants us to do that, just let me know, and then I’ll know you don’t know basketball.”

This outburst was the most outspoken Rivers has been all year and the only time he has come close to losing his temper with the media.

[the_process]

This is exactly what we’ve seen in his two years in Philly.

The WIP media dopes booed when they drafted McNabb and chased Gabe Kapler out of town. This is the head dope in Negadelphia who started the calling him Glenn from Day One.




Doc did everything under the sun to save Ben Simmons but still was the scapegoat. Now Daryl Morey traded away all their depth and that's Doc's fault too.

A Look into Doc Rivers’ Continued Defense of Ben Simmons


Otherwise even-keeled, criticism regarding Ben Simmons has been the one thing that has fired up Doc Rivers with the media this season.

Since taking the reins in Philadelphia, Doc Rivers has proved to be the right man for the job. He has pressed all the right buttons on players, and it is tough to argue that he hasn’t maximized the skillset of just about every player. Basketball decisions aside, Rivers also has been a vast change in tone from the head coaching position. Brett Brown and his Brooklyn accent had worn out their welcome, and Doc Rivers and his 22 years of experience were a needed change.

While he typically faces the media with a politician-like suave and answers with even-keeled thoughts, Rivers has continually gotten riled up over one thing, Ben Simmons.

Rivers in the Early Months
From the minute Rivers took over, it was clear he was in Ben Simmons’ corner. Doc immediately attempted to take pressure off of Simmons by talking about how he had no worries regarding his offensive development. Rivers emphasized that he viewed Simmons as a facilitator rather than a scorer and continually refocused the conversation of what Simmons does well. He also was reportedly firmly against trading Ben Simmons when the discussions surrounding James Harden occurred.


Like many who have watched Simmons play, Rivers talked about how impactful Simmons’ game is beyond the stat sheet. Following a victory over the Lakers in January, Doc playfully put it- “the winning things he does is hard to put into numbers.” He has also showered him in praise for his ability to control the team’s pace, creating looks for others, and led a Defensive Player of the Year campaign.


The Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid Relationship
In addition to the criticisms of Simmons’ shooting, Doc Rivers has also worked to squash the rumors surrounding the relationship of Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons. These whispers have grown throughout the four years the two have spent on the court together and seemed to increase during the Jimmy Butler saga.


This narrative has been overblown from the start and one that has lingered on for far too long. While Simmons and Embiid are not an ideal on-court pairing, each are extremely talented basketball players and more than capable of making it work. These issues can also be attributed to an ill-fitting supportive cast, which Daryl Morey has done wonders to fix this season.

Rivers Breaking Point
Following the Sixers’ game four loss to the Wizards, Doc Rivers appeared to hit his breaking point with the media. When a question regarding Ben Simmons lack of scoring in Embiid’s absence and if this was fair criticism was asked, Rivers replied:

“No. But you guys keep this Ben Simmons narrative alive, which to me is freaking insane- how good this guy is and all the things he does. Ben is not a 40 point guy. It’s not what he does, he does other things for your team, and I just don’t understand why that’s not sinking in, in our city. You know, everybody on the team doesn’t have to be a scorer to help the team. Ben scores, but Ben creates scoring for us- that’s what he does. So, you know, if I’m Ben at some point, I’d get tired of it. I just would. Because he’s just too good, and he does so many good things for this basketball team, and I keep saying ‘celebrate him,’ celebrate all the stuff he does well. We don’t do that enough.”

Doc Rivers then had his mic drop moment before walking off when a question regarding Simmons’ free-throw shooting was more specifically asked. Rivers had previously pointed out that he was not upset with Ben splitting his free throws during the “Hack-a-Ben” strategy by the Wizards because one point per possession is pretty good analytically. Rivers said he did not consider taking Ben off the court and, in what turned out to be the final question of the media availability, Doc finished by saying:

“With Ben, we’re gonna keep him on the floor. Unless you guys want us to bench him the whole game. If anybody wants us to do that, just let me know, and then I’ll know you don’t know basketball.”

This outburst was the most outspoken Rivers has been all year and the only time he has come close to losing his temper with the media.

Book not needed. Not Glenn’s fault YSBS quit on his team. That being said, he is objectively a below average coach and a ****head.

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Book not needed. Not Glenn’s fault YSBS quit on his team. That being said, he is objectively a below average coach.

opinions are not objective lol
in fact they're like a***oles


objectively, Doc Rivers is the 9th winningest coach of all time
and spare us the shtick from the biggest fool in Philly media

[clipperlover]

and Tony Parker and David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard

I can only wonder how stunted Kawhi's growth would have been under doc.

well it's just Wack-a-Mole speculation at this point

Kawhi became an all-star at age 24, in his 5th season

What a misleading stat. Kawhi had played in 3 EC Championships, 2 NBA Finals, won an NBA Finals MVP, checked LeBron James in his prime on the biggest stage and was NBA defensive player of the year before he made an All-Star team.

Blake played in 5 AS games before Kawhi played in 1. All kinds of talk about him being a future HoFamer. We see how that turned out.

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I can only wonder how stunted Kawhi's growth would have been under doc.

well it's just Wack-a-Mole speculation at this point

Kawhi became an all-star at age 24, in his 5th season

What a misleading stat. Kawhi had played in 3 EC Championships, 2 NBA Finals, won an NBA Finals MVP, checked LeBron James in his prime on the biggest stage and was NBA defensive player of the year before he made an All-Star team.

Blake played in 5 AS games before Kawhi played in 1. All kinds of talk about him being a future HoFamer. We see how that turned out.

point is, one could say what took so long under Popovich

[Dynamix]

I was ready to skip the playoffs entirely, but just can't keep myself from checking out that Sixers-Raptors series. Seeing Doc get the axe again and end up on the Kings or Lakers would be really fun. Hell, he might even end the Kings playoff drought and get a CotY vote or two! Or maybe the Sixers figure it all out and make that elusive conference finals, then they'll be stuck with him for another year or two.

In any case, my new life goal is to live long enough to witness the last Doc defender still battling on this board. Most Sixers fans are already done with him, while some of other teams are dreading the thought of him coming over. So yeah, appreciate those that still go to bat for the guy, they're a rare breed nowadays.

[esqtvd]

I was ready to skip the playoffs entirely, but just can't keep myself from checking out that Sixers-Raptors series. Seeing Doc get the axe again and end up on the Kings or Lakers would be really fun. Hell, he might even end the Kings playoff drought and get a CotY vote or two! Or maybe the Sixers figure it all out and make that elusive conference finals, then they'll be stuck with him for another year or two.

In any case, my new life goal is to live long enough to witness the last Doc defender still battling on this board. Most Sixers fans are already done with him, while some of other teams are dreading the thought of him coming over. So yeah, appreciate those that still go to bat for the guy, they're a rare breed nowadays.

Actually I only defend him from stupid arguments. Dopes always blame the coach.

[nickhx2]

I was ready to skip the playoffs entirely, but just can't keep myself from checking out that Sixers-Raptors series. Seeing Doc get the axe again and end up on the Kings or Lakers would be really fun. Hell, he might even end the Kings playoff drought and get a CotY vote or two! Or maybe the Sixers figure it all out and make that elusive conference finals, then they'll be stuck with him for another year or two.

In any case, my new life goal is to live long enough to witness the last Doc defender still battling on this board. Most Sixers fans are already done with him, while some of other teams are dreading the thought of him coming over. So yeah, appreciate those that still go to bat for the guy, they're a rare breed nowadays.

someone on gb posted they wanted to see doc coach the lakers and i just thought that was the most evil and amusing thing you could ask for lol

i mean, by all means lol

i think it was mentioned by the 76er fan earlier that he's objectively below average as a coach but that's not really true. he's objectively an ok coach, but that's where it ends - he brought a lot of legitimacy to the clippers from an x's and o's perspective and he was an upgrade over VDN in that regard for sure. but as far as making optimal adjustments in a series where the other team's going to exploit every edge possible, he's kinda useless. i'd only also add that their fans should just be glad he's not in control of personnel, because then you'd just see punting championship equity for no reason, like he did with us.

i don't really see why anyone would defend him at this point, because from a basketball perspective he's just not gonna take you that far. it's non-sensical and anyone who understands basketball sees that. but for whatever it's worth, i'd still vote for him to lead a social cause. he's similar to kerr/popovich in that regard that they're unafraid to speak openly about some of the legitimate social issues that we deal with in america, and i respect that a lot.

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