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Re: Transaction Discussion Part 4 (Trades, Free-Agency, News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#501 » by esqtvd » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:26 pm

Micromoves, admittedly. OTOH, moves I don't see Ballmer's fingerprints all over. @ZubacSZN on X:

Lawrence Frank moves

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    -Muscala for Zubac

    -Blake for Tobias & FRP (ended up being SGA)

    -Batum/Reggie/iHart/Russ/Simmons on vet mins

    -Tobias for 2 firsts + Shamet

    -Shamet for Kennard & 4 seconds

    -Dunn s&t & DJ MLE

    -Mann for Bogi & 3 seconds

    -Bledsoe for Norm & RoCo

    -Drafted Mann 48th

    -Coffey UDFA
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Post#503 » by KL2 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 3:31 pm

LMAO. Even the all-star game is getting the afternoon game treatment.

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Post#504 » by Captain Ballmer » Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:24 am

Time to sell Kawhi this summer when he's healthy.
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Post#505 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Apr 30, 2025 1:44 pm

Captain Ballmer wrote:Time to sell Kawhi this summer when he's healthy.

Agreed, but neither Ballmer nor Frank have the balls to do it. They will cling on to Kawhi until he loses all value.
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Post#506 » by og15 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:19 pm

If it's not working with Zion on New Orleans, with his very stipulated contract:

The salary for the 2025-26 season became fully guaranteed on July 15, 2025. While he will earn a high salary in the following years ($42.17 million in 2026-27 and $44.89 million in 2027-28), those amounts are contingent on him meeting specific games played and weight/body fat thresholds in the preceding seasons.


....that's a guy that I would attempt to do a swap for Kawhi, as I don't believe Zion's trade value is very high (though neither is Kawhi's)

I don't think Zion is better by any means, but that's a move that at least puts you in some higher hope direction, but you can escape from as needed and still keep the 2027 cap space.

Not sure how realistic any of that is, or if it even makes sense, but throwing it out there as a thought.
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Post#507 » by Ballings7 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:34 pm

og15 wrote:If it's not working with Zion on New Orleans, with his very stipulated contract:

The salary for the 2025-26 season became fully guaranteed on July 15, 2025. While he will earn a high salary in the following years ($42.17 million in 2026-27 and $44.89 million in 2027-28), those amounts are contingent on him meeting specific games played and weight/body fat thresholds in the preceding seasons.


....that's a guy that I would attempt to do a swap for Kawhi, as I don't believe Zion's trade value is very high (though neither is Kawhi's)

I don't think Zion is better by any means, but that's a move that at least puts you in some higher hope direction, but you can escape from as needed and still keep the 2027 cap space.

Not sure how realistic any of that is, or if it even makes sense, but throwing it out there as a thought.


I wouldn't mind it if it happened.

When Zion is right (meaning been in decent shape and playing), he's been a top 10 player in the league, or better.

The 2024 Lakers play-in game game he was going great till he got hurt later in that game, then the Pels fell off, ever since.

Then, last season, was a lost one for him, just 30 games.. this season he's been off to a respectable start, building momentum back... but is out again now since 11/3.



1.5 year ago or so now - but he looks like a more compact prime-LeBron there, amazing stuff.

Not too much to lose for the Clips, and would create some fun media storms for sure.. the vibe would be "fresh" for Clipper Nation. Harden + Zion would be pretty wild and fun basketball most nights.

Harden
Beal
DJJ
Zion
Zubac

The "foundation" for the team hedges on Zion being a fixture and credibly to build a team around him if he shows he's reliable. Does that happen? I'd lean to no, but it'd probably be a better transition for the team, with a "future" possibility of it working out.

The availability situation of Zion is similar to Kawhi -- that cloud remains, but the upside is of course better overall.

Between the two, Kawhi is still a better basketball player for at least another couple seasons (including this one; as long as ZIon stays as he has been recently); but Zion's offensive game is a bit more dynamic than Kawhi's, overall.

Both different players and athletes with their own strengths offensively.

Worst case you let Zion go later if things don't work, and Zion goes down in Clippers lore :P
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Re: Transaction Discussion Part 4 (Trades, Free-Agency, News, Rumors & Ideas) 

Post#508 » by Captain Ballmer » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:27 am

Can you even trade Kawhi with that investigation going on? Don't think NBA will allow it.
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Post#509 » by og15 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:14 pm

Captain Ballmer wrote:Can you even trade Kawhi with that investigation going on? Don't think NBA will allow it.

Have no clue
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Post#510 » by Ballings7 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:55 am

With the Nico post-firing storms in full swing.. Anthony Davis trade talk has begun for later in the season.

This is total base speculation and talk (basically equal to a realgm random poster thread), and probably doesn't happen, but its interesting to think about - Zach Lowe brings up the Clippers for an AD trade:

23min 30sec:
https://youtu.be/9JJ31AQ7i-U?t=1400


So he proposed with a third team being involved (Brooklyn), with the Clippers sending out.. John Collins, Bogdanovic, Lopez or DJJ (and a bit more needed from LAC to make things work to still be under the first apron).

This would also risk to mess up the 2027 plan, since AD would likely pick up his player option after the 2026-2027 season.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/10809/anthony-davis

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2027-28: Player Option (deadline 6/29/27)




I personally would probably not trade for AD, because he's at the end of his prime, but has still been very good when healthy (elite defensively), but still fairly injury prone (as has been seen since going to Dallas). If it happened, obviously its in the similar mindset as Dallas where its in the short term to use lightning in a bottle for a couple years.

-- probable line up, say February 2025:

Harden
Beal (Dunn or Christie)
Kawhi
AD
Zubac

AD, Zubac, and Kawhi when healthy is still one heck of a front court on both ends.

ZL did mention Kawhi being traded for AD wouldn't work under the apron rules. Which is probably right given the higher salaries of each.

Rest of the possible AD trade teams talk after the Clips mention, is pretty fun too.

From:


I think AD to the Wolves would be a good fit, Randle to Dallas. AntMan, McDaniels, AD, and Gobert + Reid off the bench, is pretty incredible combo of size, agility, and offense.. strong chance to be in the WCF again.
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Post#511 » by Ballings7 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:37 pm

League rumblings appear to be getting started on Anthony Davis.. still just talk, though.


League executives and scouts believe the organization should explore trading the 32-year-old big as Dallas pivots to build around rookie Cooper Flagg following the dismissal of Nico Harrison.

Davis remains a dominant two-way player when healthy, though durability concerns cloud his trade value. Multiple league sources insist gauging the market represents necessary due diligence as Dallas' championship window appears to have closed.

"You don't go two timelines anymore," a West executive said. "You say, 'We're going to take what we can get [for Davis].' At this point, I'm not sure what they can get."

Davis has a player option for the 2027-28 season worth $62.8 million that his extension would be built off. Any team trading for Davis would certainly be doing so with the expectation of agreeing to an extension with him in the 2026 offseason.

The franchise must balance immediate competitiveness against long-term roster construction. Owner Patrick Dumont's approach to a potential rebuild remains unclear as the organization enters a transitional period.

Zach Lowe of The Ringer reported that rival teams are already having internal discussions on the trade value of Davis.


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Post#512 » by wco81 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:48 am

What is this 2027 plan?

The only UFA who might sign with another team is Giannis, if he doesn't get traded next summer or in Feb 2027.

Jokic is expected to re-up with Denver next summer to fall.

Mitchell can be UFA but hmm, is he expected to shop for another team? I thought he favored the Knicks since that's his home but they'd have to get rid of salaries?
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Post#513 » by Captain Ballmer » Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:56 am

wco81 wrote:What is this 2027 plan?


Probably DeMar Derozan or Lebron James, we love oldies in here.
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Post#514 » by Ballings7 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:55 pm

wco81 wrote:What is this 2027 plan?

The only UFA who might sign with another team is Giannis, if he doesn't get traded next summer or in Feb 2027.

Jokic is expected to re-up with Denver next summer to fall.

Mitchell can be UFA but hmm, is he expected to shop for another team? I thought he favored the Knicks since that's his home but they'd have to get rid of salaries?


At this point I don't know, as far as free agency at least.. most of the main players are extended, or probably will with their teams, or may not be as good as they are now.

https://www.sportscasting.com/news/clippers-remain-competitive-with-eye-on-2027/

https://www.totalprosports.com/nba/report-los-angeles-clippers-quietly-drop-hints-eyeing-mega-star-2027/
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Post#515 » by wco81 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:27 pm

The Lakers are saving cap space for that year and so are a couple of other teams.

But really don't see more than one superstar who might change teams.
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Post#516 » by og15 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:25 pm

wco81 wrote:What is this 2027 plan?

The only UFA who might sign with another team is Giannis, if he doesn't get traded next summer or in Feb 2027.

Jokic is expected to re-up with Denver next summer to fall.

Mitchell can be UFA but hmm, is he expected to shop for another team? I thought he favored the Knicks since that's his home but they'd have to get rid of salaries?

The team just wants to be flexible. They have no choice since they don't control their draft pick destiny. Being able to have cap space also allows you to take on contracts in trades as a team pays you in draft picks. It allows you to be a third team in a trade to help other teams make their moves, again, while getting compensation, and then you can sign second tier guys on larger but shorter deals to allow you to still maintain future flexibility.

wco81 wrote:The Lakers are saving cap space for that year and so are a couple of other teams.

But really don't see more than one superstar who might change teams.
Lakers might not have too much cap space to save with Luka on the roster and then likely re-signing Reaves.

Now, I don't think Giannis or Jokic is realistic, but if you have the opportunity, you should certainly at least put yourself in the mix for guys like that.
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Post#517 » by wco81 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:48 am

Another possibility could be Donovan Mitchell, who has a $53 million player option that he could decline and become a free agent in summer of 2027.

He will be almost 31 (birthday in early September).

Not a great 2-way player but one of the best scorers in the league.

If both Giannis and Mitchell hit the free agent market, that would be a boffo class.

When have there been two multiple All-NBA players still in their primes become UFAs in the same class? May never have happened before.
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Post#518 » by og15 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:16 pm

wco81 wrote:Another possibility could be Donovan Mitchell, who has a $53 million player option that he could decline and become a free agent in summer of 2027.

He will be almost 31 (birthday in early September).

Not a great 2-way player but one of the best scorers in the league.

If both Giannis and Mitchell hit the free agent market, that would be a boffo class.

When have there been two multiple All-NBA players still in their primes become UFAs in the same class? May never have happened before.

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Post#519 » by Roscoe Sheed » Wed Dec 10, 2025 5:08 pm

I know that the last thing the Clippers need is even more bad publicity, but Malik Beasley is a great shooter who could help in a sorely lacking department. Just a thought.
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Post#520 » by Ballings7 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:22 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:I know that the last thing the Clippers need is even more bad publicity, but Malik Beasley is a great shooter who could help in a sorely lacking department. Just a thought.


I wouldn't mind him at all. I've always liked his game since Denver days.

We should also trade for Jalen Smith from the Bulls : ) .. hybrid big that can space the floor, defend multiple positions.
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