Blake out with Torn Quad

[Dynamix]

This could be a career defining moment for Blake. He seemed to be on the right path, now his whole world is turned upside down. Might not be that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but he can kiss his ASG streak goodbye, serious injury or not.

I really want to know what could lead to something like this between co-workers and so called friends. Without having a clue as to what went down, I'll just assume it's due to pent-up frustration with sitting out and whatever else is going on inside the locker room. Or maybe Blake simply isn't as smart as he looks and did a really dumb thing for nothing.

Whatever the case may be, if there were rings handed out for drama, we'd be full of them by now.

[Ranma]

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[BlzMwt]

There is also the VERY REAL possibility that Toronto Police follows up on this and charges are laid.

He could be looking at probation, and not being allowed back into Canada or overseas. It's unlikely a man with his resources would get prison time for common assault, but he could.

if this was a close friend of Blake's, this could all just be a misunderstanding. If the friend doesn't want to charge him, then I'm sure the police won't pursue it. Blake's not a threat to the public, he has no prior instances of behaviour of this nature.

If this close friend does want to charge Blake, I'm sure he could be paid off if there were consequences such as not being allowed to leave the US, which I think was hyperbole.

Not that I condone his behaviour, but everyone makes mistakes

[nickhx2]

especially 20 year olds with money

[CoachD]

There is also the VERY REAL possibility that Toronto Police follows up on this and charges are laid.

He could be looking at probation, and not being allowed back into Canada or overseas. It's unlikely a man with his resources would get prison time for common assault, but he could.

if this was a close friend of Blake's, this could all just be a misunderstanding. If the friend doesn't want to charge him, then I'm sure the police won't pursue it. Blake's not a threat to the public, he has no prior instances of behaviour of this nature.

If this close friend does want to charge Blake, I'm sure he could be paid off if there were consequences such as not being allowed to leave the US, which I think was hyperbole.

Not that I condone his behaviour, but everyone makes mistakes

If you are charged with a crime outside of the US, you are generally stripped of your passport.
If you have a criminal record within the US, you will have a very difficult time getting into Canada even with a valid passport and even if you are part of a team. This has affected players in the past not being able to travel into Canada

Also the laws are different in Canada than the US...

From the Criminal Code of Canada FAQ:

"Although both the police and Crown counsel consider the views of the victim with respect to prosecution and sentencing, the investigation and decisions about what charge to lay must be based on legal principles and the public interest alone, not the wishes of the victim."

[Ranma]

Based on the audio report by Michael Eaves in the video above, the equipment staffer suffered significant injuries including his eye swollen fairly shut and a lot of bleeding. Plus, Griffin and Josh Smith didn't see eye-to-eye all season long. One of the reasons Smith was traded was because the team expected Griffin to be coming back soon from the quad injury. This latest transgression and resulting injury to his hand is bad timing. Just because Griffin is/was friends with the guy doesn't mean criminal and civil charges won't eventually be levied against him. This is just bad all around. I can't rationalize much of a silver lining in any of this.

[BlzMwt]

There is also the VERY REAL possibility that Toronto Police follows up on this and charges are laid.

He could be looking at probation, and not being allowed back into Canada or overseas. It's unlikely a man with his resources would get prison time for common assault, but he could.

if this was a close friend of Blake's, this could all just be a misunderstanding. If the friend doesn't want to charge him, then I'm sure the police won't pursue it. Blake's not a threat to the public, he has no prior instances of behaviour of this nature.

If this close friend does want to charge Blake, I'm sure he could be paid off if there were consequences such as not being allowed to leave the US, which I think was hyperbole.

Not that I condone his behaviour, but everyone makes mistakes

If you are charged with a crime outside of the US, you are generally stripped of your passport.
If you have a criminal record within the US, you will have a very difficult time getting into Canada even with a valid passport and even if you are part of a team. This has affected players in the past not being able to travel into Canada

I'm not accusing you, i'm actually interested. What other players have had similar issues when attempting to travel abroad?

"Although both the police and Crown counsel consider the views of the victim with respect to prosecution and sentencing, the investigation and decisions about what charge to lay must be based on legal principles and the public interest alone, not the wishes of the victim."

Legal principles, as in that sometimes charges are dropped within Canada. In class the other day I learned about a nurse who had her minor charges dropped because she worked in both the US and Canada. The judge let her off without a giving her a criminal record, so that she could continue working abroad. I forget what the charges were though, so there is definitely history of such things, every case is different and actually the Canadian legal system is a lot more flexible than the US.

Public interest. How does it benefit the public to not have Griffin come back into the country? To charge him? So he will stop attacking Canadian citizens? He has no history besides this. The only public interest I see here is keeping him out of Canada so that the Raptors will have a better chance against whatever team he is on at the time.


EDIT: My post makes less of an argument considering the audio Ranma posted.

[Quake Griffin]

more concerned with this being his 2nd time dealing with this in as many years.

Don't be a child and look at Doc or start talking about rebuilds etc .etc.
Hold Blake responsible for his bull.

[Ranma]

more concerned with this being his 2nd time dealing with this in as many years.

Don't be a child and look at Doc or start talking about rebuilds etc .etc.
Hold Blake responsible for his bull.

Let's not forget that Blake was also involved in an altercation at a nightclub in Las Vegas in 2014 where some random dude supposedly tried to take his picture. Misdemeanor charges were eventually dropped due to a lack of evidence and conflicting eyewitness accounts.

[SalamiNcheese]

if this was a close friend of Blake's, this could all just be a misunderstanding. If the friend doesn't want to charge him, then I'm sure the police won't pursue it. Blake's not a threat to the public, he has no prior instances of behaviour of this nature.

If this close friend does want to charge Blake, I'm sure he could be paid off if there were consequences such as not being allowed to leave the US, which I think was hyperbole.

Not that I condone his behaviour, but everyone makes mistakes

If you are charged with a crime outside of the US, you are generally stripped of your passport.
If you have a criminal record within the US, you will have a very difficult time getting into Canada even with a valid passport and even if you are part of a team. This has affected players in the past not being able to travel into Canada

I'm not accusing you, i'm actually interested. What other players have had similar issues when attempting to travel abroad?

"Although both the police and Crown counsel consider the views of the victim with respect to prosecution and sentencing, the investigation and decisions about what charge to lay must be based on legal principles and the public interest alone, not the wishes of the victim."

Legal principles, as in that sometimes charges are dropped within Canada. In class the other day I learned about a nurse who had her minor charges dropped because she worked in both the US and Canada. The judge let her off without a giving her a criminal record, so that she could continue working abroad. I forget what the charges were though, so there is definitely history of such things, every case is different and actually the Canadian legal system is a lot more flexible than the US.

Public interest. How does it benefit the public to not have Griffin come back into the country? To charge him? So he will stop attacking Canadian citizens? He has no history besides this. The only public interest I see here is keeping him out of Canada so that the Raptors will have a better chance against whatever team he is on at the time.


EDIT: My post makes less of an argument considering the audio Ranma posted.

Wow do you really think the country of Canada and laws are run by the Toronto raptors... You sir made my day.

[CoachD]

BlzMwt,

Off the top of my head ... some names that I KNOW have been denied entry into Canada from various sports at different times ...

Bob Probert (NHL player, drug charges)
Doc Gooden
Nikolai Khabibulin (DUI)
Boris Becker (tax evasion)
Qyntel Woods was another after charges were layed regarding his dog fighting ring in Portland
I know Keon Clark tried to return last season for the Raptors 20th anniversary festivities and was denied entry.

[BlzMwt]

Wow do you really think the country of Canada and laws are run by the Toronto raptors... You sir made my day.

Yup, that's exactly what I said.

Off the top of my head ... some names that I KNOW have been denied entry into Canada from various sports at different times ...

Bob Probert (NHL player, drug charges)
Doc Gooden
Nikolai Khabibulin (DUI)
Boris Becker (tax evasion)
Qyntel Woods was another after charges were layed regarding his dog fighting ring in Portland
I know Keon Clark tried to return last season for the Raptors 20th anniversary festivities and was denied entry.

Thank you, I'm gonna look them up

[Wammy Giveaway]

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If the incident is severe enough, rumor is Griffin will miss the remainder of the season by way of suspension.

[CoachD]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/692067010440658944[/tweet]

If the incident is severe enough, rumor is Griffin will miss the remainder of the season by way of suspension.

Suspension is more likely than charges it sounds like

[QRich3]

Funny that dude's last tweet is a retweet of Blake congratulating him on his birthday 3 years ago, and having a bit of fun at his expense on instagram

[tweet]https://twitter.com/blakegriffin32/status/344163186766905345[/tweet]

Whatever happened, they are both f'cking morons probably.

[Texas Chuck]

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If the incident is severe enough, rumor is Griffin will miss the remainder of the season by way of suspension.

Wow! Incident must be even worse than early reports suggest if the NBA is willing to suspend one of their most heavily promoted players that severely.

[Ranma]

It's probably unfair to bring Doc into the web Griffin has tangled himself in, but when I hear Michael Smith say in the video above that the Clippers can't seem to get out of their own way with Jemele Hill in agreement by mentioning self-inflicted blunders, I can't help but think how this team continues to emulate its coach in the wrong ways. Doc similarly undermines his own progress with the dual roles he serves for the team. We've previously mentioned how both the team and coach likes to incessantly whine and complain to the referees. Doc & the Clips also enjoy talking a better game than performing up to expectations. The team and coach seem to also conduct themselves in an arrogant manner in dimissing the importance of the little things whether it's Doc's habit of not conducting many practices or the team's lack of urgency during regular season play. Leadership starts at the top for examples to be followed and it can't be a coincidence that stuff keeps happening year after year even in the post-Sterling era.

Also, just as I suspected, the NBA will look into the matter and will likely impose a suspension once he does get back from injury based on the available information right now.

[Wammy Giveaway]

Wow! Incident must be even worse than early reports suggest if the NBA is willing to suspend one of their most heavily promoted players that severely.

There is a precedent: Gilbert Arenas bringing guns to a locker room.

Keep an eye out for a post by me on the #HateTheClippers thread.

[MrHill]

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If the incident is severe enough, rumor is Griffin will miss the remainder of the season by way of suspension.

Blake's hand injury is 4-6 weeks, so that it'll put it anywhere between the All-Star break (and coincidentally, the NBA All-Star weekend is in Toronto this year) and the end of February, and if the NBA tacks on suspension time after the injury is cleared, that's another six weeks right there, from the end of February to mid-April.

This is just a bizarre season all the way around, quite frankly, although the Clippers still have a chance to finish the season strong, despite what the naysayers say, but Blake's injury and foolishness definitely set this back some.

[QRich3]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/692067010440658944[/tweet]

If the incident is severe enough, rumor is Griffin will miss the remainder of the season by way of suspension.

Wow! Incident must be even worse than early reports suggest if the NBA is willing to suspend one of their most heavily promoted players that severely.

The league suspended Big Baby Davis for two games for a similar incident, the "remainder of the season" estimate is just Wammy's usual story time spin. The potential suspension will depend on what injuries the equipment staffer has and the details of the incident we dont know about. Could be the whole season, could be no suspension at all.