Game 47: Los Angeles Clippers (32-14) @ Orlando Magic (21-25) - 6:00 PM ET

[Dynamix]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

[NippySudz]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

I don't like when trezz has to play a long stretch because the energy wanes down as well as his defensive efforts. ..16mins straight. Give him a breather

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[esqtvd]

Seems like a great stat for rebounding and Adams is right there

it beats a poke in the eye
but Kanter's better and so is Boban
it doesn't really tell us much

Zubac had a favorable matchup today and did well
so Doc gave him a few extra minutes in the 3rd for a total of 21
that's exactly the spot in question--Zu sucked vs ATL so he got an early hook
did well today and got his minutes stretched

it's always up to Zubac, not the coach

as for J-Myke, another crap performance
to blame Trezz for anything, our 2nd-best player on days like today
is BS

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus

great win
again

the difference between Kawhi and Lob City is so glaring
Kawhi did a Kobe today

imposed his will on the game
just like Kobe used to
RIP

Read on Twitter

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asked and answered, "my brother"


as the leaders of our 2nd unit, Trezz [and Lou] have to play with the dregs of our roster

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Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus 

you want be liked by everyone?
even the ones who put garbage on our board?

NippySudz wrote:

MartinToVaught wrote:
Going to lose today and on Tuesday.

Are you sure you're a clippers fan?

well it doesn't work that way

sometimes you just have to speak up

which you did

[nickhx2]

i don't think he should be playing 16 minutes straight. honestly if zubac is a bad matchup, that's fine. play more patterson, who's been effective. but not harrell without a break.

if you're not willing to do that, then why even play patterson at all? seems like he'd be the ideal solution.

[NippySudz]

it beats a poke in the eye
but Kanter's better and so is Boban
it doesn't really tell us much

Zubac had a favorable matchup today and did well
so Doc gave him a few extra minutes in the 3rd for a total of 21
that's exactly the spot in question--Zu sucked vs ATL so he got an early hook
did well today and got his minutes stretched

it's always up to Zubac, not the coach

as for J-Myke, another crap performance
to blame Trezz for anything, our 2nd-best player on days like today
is BS

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus

great win
again

the difference between Kawhi and Lob City is so glaring
Kawhi did a Kobe today

imposed his will on the game
just like Kobe used to
RIP

Read on Twitter

tonight's not the night for this when garbage tweets are scumming our board

asked and answered, "my brother"


as the leaders of our 2nd unit, Trezz [and Lou] have to play with the dregs of our roster

Code: Select all

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus 

you want be liked by everyone?
even the ones who put garbage on our board?

NippySudz wrote:

MartinToVaught wrote:
Going to lose today and on Tuesday.

Are you sure you're a clippers fan?

well it doesn't work that way

sometimes you just have to speak up

which you did

I only debate facts, objectively. This has nothing to do with being liked. It harpens back to our discussion on Zu/trezz during the Atlanta game. The stats say that trez has been a net negative.

I have no idea why that's the case, not for the whole month anyway. If I were to guess, he's tired or him and Leonard just don't click as much. I can't tell. I wouldn't panic over it.

Dude you really need to calm down with the whole picking sides bullsh..

Seriously. Justin Russo isn't picking sides when he posts his stats and neither am I. I'm here for discussion. If you or anyone don't like that, feel free to place me on ignore.

For anyone that can answer why trezz net rating is low and has an idea about how doc can improve it, I'm all ears.

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[esqtvd]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

I agree with everything except JaMychal. As TrueLAFan pointed out, J-Myke alternates one good game with 2 or 3 bad ones. It's right there in his Game Log. If JGreen brought a consistent performance every night like Trezz and Zu do, he'd be the 3rd big we so desperately need and that would be that.

And contrary to the slime thrown my way, I'm not down on Zubac at all. He's 22 and is doing his job as our placeholder starter at center. He just needs help sometimes and J-Myke in't it.

[NippySudz]

i don't think he should be playing 16 minutes straight. honestly if zubac is a bad matchup, that's fine. play more patterson, who's been effective. but not harrell without a break.

if you're not willing to do that, then why even play patterson at all? seems like he'd be the ideal solution.

I think trezz scoring is just too sweet to give up and I think doc thinks trezz can go these long stretches without giving up too much but imo I think he's gassed. Maybe he needs to do what you said. I have no idea. I really hope this trend doesn't continue of him being a net negative rating

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[Dynamix]

I will give Doc a bit of a pass because finding those 4th quarter minutes for Zu seems tricky. If he plays well in the 3rd and gets 8 minutes like tonight, what do you do with Trez? Play him only 4 minutes, then sit him at the start of the 4th? Or give him the first few minutes in the 4th, then bring Zu out for a bit, and pull him if things go south? If Zu delivers and stays out there, Trez will pout. If Zu fails, his confidence takes a hit and maybe Trez is out of rhythm. Not exactly ideal either way.

Usually it's simple, you expect a starter to close out the 4th when the game is close, but that's never going to happen with Zu. Doc will always go with Trez's hustle and offense, like he has been doing for these past two seasons with mostly favorable results.

So I think 8 minutes of Zu/16 of Trez in the second half might be as good as it gets for a while, unless Trez completely screws up out there, which I don't want to happen. I just hope we never encounter a Dallas/Atlanta minute situation ever again.

[TheNewEra]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

What better competition as of late? His role has been the same for almost two seasons now with playing majority of his minutes against backups and finishing the game against starters.

16 straight minutes is never fine lol

It’s not stirring the waters to use other options if they see a pattern. You should have more than one way to finish games. Even Doc could see 2 of the fouls/turnovers were BS on the moving screens. Playing with Kawhi helps when you are also working to help get him open. They ran the pick and roll over and over again because it was working and leading to amazing shots

Watch on YouTube

Look how different the action and shots look for him from Zubac on the floor to without. Late 3rd to the finish was more a spot up shooter and playmaker but with Zu he ran more screen plays to get open looks in his mid range shots. This can only continue to get better as they play more together

[esqtvd]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

What better competition as of late? His role has been the same for almost two seasons now with playing majority of his minutes against backups and finishing the game against starters.

16 straight minutes is never fine lol

It’s not stirring the waters to use other options if they see a pattern. You should have more than one way to finish games. Even Doc could see 2 of the fouls/turnovers were BS on the moving screens. Playing with Kawhi helps when you are also working to help get him open. They ran the pick and roll over and over again because it was working and leading to amazing shots

Watch on YouTube

Look how different the action and shots look for him from Zubac on the floor to without. Late 3rd to the finish was more a spot up shooter and playmaker but with Zu he ran more screen plays to get open looks in his mid range shots. This can only continue to get better as they play more together

Put Zubac out there instead of Trezz as our second unit with J-Myke, McGruder, Robinson and Lou and you'll see for yourself.

[esqtvd]

i don't think he should be playing 16 minutes straight. honestly if zubac is a bad matchup, that's fine. play more patterson, who's been effective. but not harrell without a break.

if you're not willing to do that, then why even play patterson at all? seems like he'd be the ideal solution.

I think trezz scoring is just too sweet to give up and I think doc thinks trezz can go these long stretches without giving up too much but imo I think he's gassed. Maybe he needs to do what you said. I have no idea. I really hope this trend doesn't continue of him being a net negative rating

Yes, if only we had a small-ball 5 who could give us those missing 4 minutes around the beginning of the 4th quarter to give Trezz a blow. That's EXACTLY what we're missing. But Green ain't it and Patterson probably isn't either. Doc has tried. It's not like we see something he doesn't.

Hell, Trezz IS our small-ball 5. It's amazing we get away with it 29 minutes a game.

[TheNewEra]

I will give Doc a bit of a pass because finding those 4th quarter minutes for Zu seems tricky. If he plays well in the 3rd and gets 8 minutes like tonight, what do you do with Trez? Play him only 4 minutes, then sit him at the start of the 4th? Or give him the first few minutes in the 4th, then bring Zu out for a bit, and pull him if things go south? If Zu delivers and stays out there, Trez will pout. If Zu fails, his confidence takes a hit and maybe Trez is out of rhythm. Not exactly ideal either way.

Usually it's simple, you expect a starter to close out the 4th when the game is close, but that's never going to happen with Zu. Doc will always go with Trez's hustle and offense, like he has been doing for these past two seasons with mostly favorable results.

So I think 8 minutes of Zu/16 of Trez in the second half might be as good as it gets for a while, unless Trez completely screws up out there, which I don't want to happen. I just hope we never encounter a Dallas/Atlanta minute situation ever again.

Sweet spot between the 8 min and 4 min mark that you can adjust from a game to game basis in the 4th to give Harrell at least four minutes of rest. If Zu comes up short cut it at three minutes if it’s even bring him out after the 4 and if it’s a matchup in his favor then just play Harrell at the 4 spot. No one is even saying Zu has to close but it would better maximize both players if there was some sort of flexibility in the rotation like most nba team.

It’s really not all that tricky when the team finds ways to rest Williams and Kawhi when the backcourt rotation has been trash.You can rotate those guys in to give Harrell his breather.

We will because it happen in MIAMI we just outlasted the run like the Dallas game. Hell its been a issue for two seasons even during the Gortat/Boban era with us giving away certain games because we could no defend the paint or rebound due to a size disadvantage this is nothing new at all

[Dynamix]

I agree with everything except JaMychal. As TrueLAFan pointed out, J-Myke alternates one good game with 2 or 3 bad ones. It's right there in his Game Log. If JGreen brought a consistent performance every night like Trezz and Zu do, he'd be the 3rd big we so desperately need and that would be that.

And contrary to the slime thrown my way, I'm not down on Zubac at all. He's 22 and is doing his job as our placeholder starter at center. He just needs help sometimes and J-Myke in't it.

I'm probably still under the Playoff-JMG spell. We can only hope he starts being more consistent as the playoffs draw closer, then takes a huge leap like he did against the Warriors. He most likely gave up some money to stay with us and seems like a great team guy, so trading him would be a huge hit to our chemistry. Not sure what he could even get us in return to make it worth the price. But I'm guessing moving him isn't even on the table.

Moe/Rome/McG/FRP should be enough to beef up the front court. While I'm sure we'd all love a Collison or D-Rose on the roster, you look at the minutes and it's tough to see where they fit in, if Shamet can keep up his current level of play.

[TheNewEra]

it beats a poke in the eye
but Kanter's better and so is Boban
it doesn't really tell us much

Zubac had a favorable matchup today and did well
so Doc gave him a few extra minutes in the 3rd for a total of 21
that's exactly the spot in question--Zu sucked vs ATL so he got an early hook
did well today and got his minutes stretched

it's always up to Zubac, not the coach

as for J-Myke, another crap performance
to blame Trezz for anything, our 2nd-best player on days like today
is BS

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus

great win
again

the difference between Kawhi and Lob City is so glaring
Kawhi did a Kobe today

imposed his will on the game
just like Kobe used to
RIP

Read on Twitter

tonight's not the night for this when garbage tweets are scumming our board

asked and answered, "my brother"


as the leaders of our 2nd unit, Trezz [and Lou] have to play with the dregs of our roster

Code: Select all

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus 

you want be liked by everyone?
even the ones who put garbage on our board?

NippySudz wrote:

MartinToVaught wrote:
Going to lose today and on Tuesday.

Are you sure you're a clippers fan?

well it doesn't work that way

sometimes you just have to speak up

which you did

Lmao didn’t you crap on Green (using statistics) and Zubacs stat highlight when they were posted but the Harrell stat is inappropriate???????


lol I love y’all clipper nation crazy as hell

[esqtvd]

Read on Twitter

tonight's not the night for this when garbage tweets are scumming our board

asked and answered, "my brother"


as the leaders of our 2nd unit, Trezz [and Lou] have to play with the dregs of our roster

Code: Select all

Trezz was plus+11 when on the floor with anyone but Green
that's how you read plus/minus 

you want be liked by everyone?
even the ones who put garbage on our board?

NippySudz wrote:

Are you sure you're a clippers fan?

well it doesn't work that way

sometimes you just have to speak up

which you did

Lmao didn’t you crap on Green (using statistics) and Zubacs stat highlight when they were posted but the Harrell stat is inappropriate???????


lol I love y’all clipper nation crazy as hell

heh heh


you are reading me carelessly, if not dishonestly man

Zubac is playing within expectations, well done at age 22
Trezz is great, maybe this year's 6MOY, and with PG out and now Bev, at the moment our 2nd best player
Green is ass

my key argument, ICYMI [and you apparently did]

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Put Zubac out there instead of Trezz as our second unit with J-Myke, McGruder, Robinson and Lou and you'll see for yourself.

[TheNewEra]

Trez is being asked to play more against better opposition than before, it's definitely going to be an adjustment for him, especially on the defensive end.

Last night it was 16 straight minutes, but coming after a day of rest that's fine. The game got a bit close in the 4th, then Kawhi and Sham took care of business, so no need to stir the waters by yanking Trez.

Zu had a bunch of turnovers and fouls, Doc could've easily pulled him early if he really wanted to. I'll take those 8 straight minutes in the 3rd as a sign of progress. Playing next to a godlike Kawhi also doesn't hurt.

JMG has been inconsistent lately, but I would still trust him out there in a big game. There are other players ahead of him on the "maybe it's time for a change of scenery" list, and we're not going to mess with chemistry by moving a third of the roster. PatPat is that end of the bench guy you actually want, every couple of games he looks solid, without getting constant minutes. Hope he sticks around, not like we'll get anything in return anyway.

Speaking of not getting anything in return, Rome & McGruder are a truly dreadful combo. I found myself cheering when Rome simply made a play and got to the rim, it's pretty sad. Rodney with that airballed teardrop, followed by Rome getting blocked on a 3P shot. It's like they're actively trying to tank their value so we can't ship them out. The front office should get a huge bonus if they can turn these sort of assets into something even remotely useful.

What better competition as of late? His role has been the same for almost two seasons now with playing majority of his minutes against backups and finishing the game against starters.

16 straight minutes is never fine lol

It’s not stirring the waters to use other options if they see a pattern. You should have more than one way to finish games. Even Doc could see 2 of the fouls/turnovers were BS on the moving screens. Playing with Kawhi helps when you are also working to help get him open. They ran the pick and roll over and over again because it was working and leading to amazing shots

Watch on YouTube

Look how different the action and shots look for him from Zubac on the floor to without. Late 3rd to the finish was more a spot up shooter and playmaker but with Zu he ran more screen plays to get open looks in his mid range shots. This can only continue to get better as they play more together

Put Zubac out there instead of Trezz as our second unit with J-Myke, McGruder, Robinson and Lou and you'll see for yourself.

What did Lou do?

I assure you and even you have admitted Green is at least more consistent than Harkless. Most of the roster breaks down the same just Kawhi is more comfortable with Zu and Lou with Trez. The guards have been rotated game by game and it’s not Zubac fault that Shamet struggles more when he plays next to Harrell/Williams.

Trez gets to be Trez because he’s allowed to be the first or second option the majority of his minutes with the bench. Thats his role and just like it’s on Zu to play defense, rebound, create second chance opportunities and assist getting people open looks.

[esqtvd]

I agree with everything except JaMychal. As TrueLAFan pointed out, J-Myke alternates one good game with 2 or 3 bad ones. It's right there in his Game Log. If JGreen brought a consistent performance every night like Trezz and Zu do, he'd be the 3rd big we so desperately need and that would be that.

And contrary to the slime thrown my way, I'm not down on Zubac at all. He's 22 and is doing his job as our placeholder starter at center. He just needs help sometimes and J-Myke in't it.

I'm probably still under the Playoff-JMG spell. We can only hope he starts being more consistent as the playoffs draw closer, then takes a huge leap like he did against the Warriors. He most likely gave up some money to stay with us and seems like a great team guy, so trading him would be a huge hit to our chemistry. Not sure what he could even get us in return to make it worth the price. But I'm guessing moving him isn't even on the table.

Moe/Rome/McG/FRP should be enough to beef up the front court. While I'm sure we'd all love a Collison or D-Rose on the roster, you look at the minutes and it's tough to see where they fit in, if Shamet can keep up his current level of play.

Well, I was ready to put Shamet on the trade table as our only real tradable asset [and he is] but in the last 2 weeks he's becoming the guy we hoped he'd be at the start of the season.

Why I'm not real big in the trade talk discussions, and when I put a toe in, usually not very helpful, LOL.

I don't watch a lot of the rest of the NBA, and none of us see what the coach and front office see day to day in practice with our own team. Of course, they could be just as pleasantly surprised at Sham's turnaround as the rest of us, but Doc saw it, and has been playing the hell out of him in the absence of PG and Pat Bev.


And who can't love the guy?

[Dynamix]

So what do we do with Sham once Bev and PG return? He clearly benefits a lot from being next to Kawhi, but his pre-season struggles probably had something to do with him getting extra ballhandling duties. PG and Kawhi surely don't want to play big minutes at the 4 on a regular basis. Bev is still an important piece to have out there.

So could we ever see Sham/PG/Kawhi/Green/Zu as our starting lineup? And if Sham keeps hitting his shots, who will close in the clutch, next to PG/Kawhi/Trez? Not in the "we desperately need a three" situations, just our usual close games down the stretch.

[esqtvd]

What better competition as of late? His role has been the same for almost two seasons now with playing majority of his minutes against backups and finishing the game against starters.

16 straight minutes is never fine lol

It’s not stirring the waters to use other options if they see a pattern. You should have more than one way to finish games. Even Doc could see 2 of the fouls/turnovers were BS on the moving screens. Playing with Kawhi helps when you are also working to help get him open. They ran the pick and roll over and over again because it was working and leading to amazing shots

Watch on YouTube

Look how different the action and shots look for him from Zubac on the floor to without. Late 3rd to the finish was more a spot up shooter and playmaker but with Zu he ran more screen plays to get open looks in his mid range shots. This can only continue to get better as they play more together

Put Zubac out there instead of Trezz as our second unit with J-Myke, McGruder, Robinson and Lou and you'll see for yourself.

What did Lou do?

I assure you and even you have admitted Green is at least more consistent than Harkless. Most of the roster breaks down the same just Kawhi is more comfortable with Zu and Lou with Trez. The guards have been rotated game by game and it’s not Zubac fault that Shamet struggles more when he plays next to Harrell/Williams.

Trez gets to be Trez because he’s allowed to be the first or second option the majority of his minutes with the bench. Thats his role and just like it’s on Zu to play defense, rebound, create second chance opportunities and assist getting people open looks.

NOTHING is Zubac's fault except maybe the beginning of the 3rd quarter in the Atlanta game. You're just not hearing a word I say. He's doing his job. Today he did it better than usual and Doc gave him 21 minutes.

But Trezz is one of our best players. You don't hand Trezz's minutes to Zubac. That is all.

[esqtvd]

So what do we do with Sham once Bev and PG return? He clearly benefits a lot from being next to Kawhi, but his pre-season struggles probably had something to do with him getting extra ballhandling duties. PG and Kawhi surely don't want to play big minutes at the 4 on a regular basis. Bev is still an important piece to have out there.

So could we ever see Sham/PG/Kawhi/Green/Zu as our starting lineup? And if Sham keeps hitting his shots, who will close in the clutch, next to PG/Kawhi/Trez? Not in the "we desperately need a three" situations, just our usual close games down the stretch.

I'm not a Harkless fan but I'm even less a Green fan. With so much firepower out there with both Kawhi and PG [and a bit of Bev], we can hide Harkless on offense, esp since we get so [gasp!] iso-oriented. Harkless is the better defender.

We haven't seen that 5 but for a dozen games or so. it still might be the best starting 5.

For the moment, it still looks like our closing 5 is Kawhi-PG-Trezz-Lou-Bev. If we are behind, Shamet for Bev. I think that was the plan back at the beginning of the season, even back before the season started when Doc was in restaurants drawing up plays on bar napkins.

We haven't even seen the 2020 Clippers yet! No wonder Kawhi's been like, chill, man, chill. Nobody ever won a championship in January.