Clemenza wrote:esqtvd wrote:NickP wrote:If PG was out in the open market as a FA then there would be plenty of teams with cap space in line to sign him for the Max deal. Clippers included. Hayward signed a near Max deal. There are guys signing Max deals that have no business signing Max deals. In a so called bad year PG averaged close to 22 ppg. If he returns to his true form then the gamble pays off.
Yes, Nick, you're certainly correct that SOME teams would have scooped PG up at that price. Gordon Hayward at the butt end of the NBA universe in Charlotte is the perfect example. And both are better than Tobias Harris, who got the near-max as the Sixers' 3rd wheel.
What we're saying here is that a deep-pockets contender [and the Clippers have the deepest] would not have bought him at market price, at least not as their foundational FA. If Kawhi weren't already here and RESPONSIBLE for the Clippers trading away the farm to acquire PG in the first place, no, I don't think they make this deal.
As I wrote and so did Andrew Greif and every other dispassionate observer, there is no confidence Kawhi will re-sign with the Clips, only hope.True, but how long do these Clippers have? George’s extension locks him in through at least the 2023-2024 season, but Leonard —the larger of the two pillars — can opt out at the end of this season. The two-time Finals MVP already forced his way out of San Antonio, leaving a $221-million supermax deal behind, then said goodbye to the championship confetti and $190-million max deal in Toronto a year later. Predicting Leonard’s next move is tricky to say the least. If money or a chance to repeat isn’t enough to keep him, what will?
If money or a chance to repeat isn’t enough to keep him, what will?
Well, I think the Clippers are hoping that PG will. They don't have much else beyond Serge, since Phoenix is just as close to Kawhi's mansion in San Diego by air/car as Staples is.
And Serge's contract next year is a PLAYER option. They could both be with the Suns this time next year. Just sayin', bro. I'm not here to fight with you.
I don't see Kawhi leaving at all. The only threat to me was the Lakers but they threw all their dough at Bron & AD and rightfully so. Both him and PG are home literally and figuratively and right where they want to be in life. He's finally in LA, the team is his, the front office caters to him, his oddball personality & load management, for better or worse, is already accepted within the team's structure, and if we win there's big money to be made in LA. Go to Phoenix and he's gotta deal with the oddball owner Sarver, its Booker's team, CP3 is second in the pecking order, new teammates, new coach, new offense, its not Southern California anymore which he fought and manipulated to get to, etc. Unless we somehow have an even worse meltdown than last season's bubble and all the players want to strangle each other Kawhi's is not going anywhere. Its easier said than done.. Plus he needs to ball out this season, take some leadership up with the team and not to mention we gotta see how his leg is holding up in a year or so. Ibaka is old. Why would the Suns want him? Ballmer wants to win first and foremost. If we don't have a nice playoff run the coddling of players and massaging egos will be over with.
Yep. You have to use the process of elimination. Ask yourself where Kawhi would go. He's not a ring chaser because he has the hardware. He's not going to be 3rd fiddle on LeBron's team. He loves to be in his hometown. I just don't see a viable scenario where he leaves this team.
There's a lot to prove this year. I think PG and Kawhi are up to the challenge.
























