2024 NBA Draft (Clippers select at 46)

[KL2]

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[KL2]

That’s what I’ve been saying. They held auditions for the SD Clippers.

[MartinToVaught]

Frank is a clown and so is Ballmer for not firing him. This franchise will never win anything until it starts taking the draft seriously.

[esqtvd]

No idea what "taking the draft seriously" even means. Boston got Jrue Holiday at the cost of Brogdon and two FRPs to come [2024, 2029]. They got the 2016 Jaylen Brown pick [#3] and the 2017 FRP they traded for Jayson Tatum [#3] in the Kevin Garnett-Paul Pierce trade with the Nets that people are still laughing about.

Danny Ainge made that trade back in 2013 and he is long gone. The lesson here is to find some idiot GM to fleece for top-5 picks and then wait ELEVEN YEARS for it all to pay off.


https://www.deseret.com/sports/2024/06/20/danny-ainge-credit-boston-celtics-nba-championship/#:~:text=All%20told%2C%20Ainge%20spent%2018,Ray%20Allen%20and%20Rajon%20Rondo.

“Ainge’s impact on the roster is still considerable,” Robbs wrote. “For years, Ainge’s greatest trade heist during his Celtics tenure was considered to be the acquisition of Kevin Garnett in the summer of 2007. That honor can now officially be shifted to June 2013 and the deal when Boston acquired first-round picks and a pick swap that produced three top-8 picks from Brooklyn over five years in exchange for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce. Ainge didn’t just land a massive haul to jumpstart a rebuild, he navigated those drafts masterfully to maximize his good fortune as the Nets cratered ahead of schedule. Jaylen Brown was a raw prospect in 2016 at No. 3, avoiding a number of potholes (Dragan Bender, Kris Dunn, Buddy Hield) in the process. He selected a franchise cornerstone Jayson Tatum a year later and extracted maximum value out of a division rival by trading from the No. 1 overall pick.

“For all of Stevens’ savvy moves supplementing Tatum and Brown over the past three years, the hardest part of team building was done by Ainge early in identifying future stars. He also deserves credit (along with Stevens) for avoiding the temptation to sell Boston’s young stars for an earlier win-now push. Tatum was never going anywhere after his rookie year, but Brown’s name was rumored to be included in potential deals for Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard in the latter days of Ainge’s tenure. His unwillingness to budge on Brown’s value in those talks (or the draft pick that became Brown) in those trade talks has helped position the Celtics to become a perennial contender.”

[MartinToVaught]

No idea what "taking the draft seriously" even means.

Not seeking out the oldest prospects in the draft who are projected as UDFAs after blowing smoke up the fanbase's ass again about getting younger and more athletic.

Not reaching for limited, low-upside players and then giving the same boilerplate speech about "toughness" and "playing hard" to justify wasting another pick.

Not trading as many first-round picks as you can for over-the-hill veterans in their late 30s.

Not letting the players you draft rot on the bench or in the G-League until they wash out of the league without us getting to see if they have anything at all. It's mindboggling that this team keeps drafting based on who might be able to contribute the fastest on a win-now team rather than on upside, but still won't play anyone they draft, negating the entire strategy.

Need I go on? This front office has shown nothing but contempt for the draft and player development since back when Doc was still running it.

[KL2]

Last workout I could find.

6’6 SG Langston Terry (Lithia Springs HS (GA)

[esqtvd]

No idea what "taking the draft seriously" even means.

Not seeking out the oldest prospects in the draft who are projected as UDFAs after blowing smoke up the fanbase's ass again about getting younger and more athletic.

Not reaching for limited, low-upside players and then giving the same boilerplate speech about "toughness" and "playing hard" to justify wasting another pick.

Not trading as many first-round picks as you can for over-the-hill veterans in their late 30s.

Not letting the players you draft rot on the bench or in the G-League until they wash out of the league without us getting to see if they have anything at all. It's mindboggling that this team keeps drafting based on who might be able to contribute the fastest on a win-now team rather than on upside, but still won't play anyone they draft, negating the entire strategy.

Need I go on? This front office has shown nothing but contempt for the draft and player development since back when Doc was still running it.

Easy to say, impossible to prove. In fact, they do get their chance. Kobe Brown got the same number of minutes as PJ Tucker. They BOTH were ass, lol.

The fact remains that none of our draftees in the last 20 years went elsewhere and did anything. Contenders don't waste minutes on guys who are not NBA-level talents. They can't. Every time Ty gave the G-Leaguers some burn with a 20-point lead, they blew it.

Now if you want to blame the scouting department, I agree. But Jerry West was part of it too, so there you go. The fact is already proven in the comments above that smart trades are the ticket, not hitting on back of the rotation guys in the second half of the first round.

No idea what "taking the draft seriously" even means. Boston got Jrue Holiday at the cost of Brogdon and two FRPs to come [2024, 2029]. They got the 2016 Jaylen Brown pick [#3] and the 2017 FRP they traded for Jayson Tatum [#3] in the Kevin Garnett-Paul Pierce trade with the Nets that people are still laughing about.

Danny Ainge made that trade back in 2013 and he is long gone. The lesson here is to find some idiot GM to fleece for top-5 picks and then wait ELEVEN YEARS for it all to pay off.

[ejftw]

Wonder if anyone is in the war room for the Clips, considering only first round is today

[esqtvd]

Wonder if anyone is in the war room for the Clips, considering only first round is today

LOL. Good point.

I don't follow NCAA at all but I've read this is the weakest draft in quite a while. Lots of teams taking flyers on internationals, hoping for the next Jokic, I suppose.

Another reason the draft is a crapshoot. You could end up with a high pick but in a crap draft.

[ejftw]

It's weak in the sense of high end talent, but one of the better ones to find that connector, that glue guy type, which, just isn't sexy for the mainstream and the casuals.

Edit: @ Phoenix trading Holmes to Denver....Nuggets get an A++

[KL2]

I feel bad. Fans on Twitter thinking the Clippers are going to do something.

I can’t believe Phoenix helping Denver like that.

[ejftw]

I feel bad. Fans on Twitter thinking the Clippers are going to do something.

I can’t believe Phoenix helping Denver like that.

yeah that Phoenix decision man....Holmes is the perfect bench big for Denver

[esqtvd]

It's weak in the sense of high end talent, but one of the better ones to find that connector, that glue guy type, which, just isn't sexy for the mainstream and the casuals.

Proving the point, though. Those guys are not real needle-movers and there are plenty of veterans available who you KNOW can do the job who won't cost an arm and a leg.

33-yr-old Jrue Holiday cost Boston TWO future first-rounders [2024, 2029] AND Malcolm Brogdon. If you want to upgrade from a nice "glue guy" like Brogdon, it's gonna cost you.

Actually I thought there might be a new appreciation for FRPs this year, but nothing has changed. The Knicks just traded away 4 or 6 of 'em for a "glue guy" who went at #10 in his draft. Makes the Clippers deal for PG and thus scoring Kawhi to boot look totally sane. Whoever traded a 2024 FRP for a key veteran is looking pretty smart now.

Sure the draft is FREE talent. Hitting picks is great and admittedly, neither Doc nor Frank ever hit a damn thing. [That's what Jerry West was supposed to be here for, wasn't it?]

But trading smart remains the real key. The Process is bullspit, just gathering up picks willy-nilly, throwing them in the deep end of the pool, and seeing who floats is not how it works.

Danny Ainge did his version of The Process, and it finally paid off. ELEVEN YEARS later.

[ejftw]

Edwards, Kolek, Filipkowski, Simpson, Ajinca, Mitchel, Reeves

Any of those guys drop to 46 and I'm happy

[KL2]

If? Might be less painful if they trade for a future one than whatever awful choice they’d make.

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[Sofia]

Steer into the crash. Draft Bronny

[Clemenza]

A lot of guys fell which is good for us. The Kansas kid Furphy is only 19. Flipowski, Bona, Klintman, etc.

[KL2]

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It's weak in the sense of high end talent, but one of the better ones to find that connector, that glue guy type, which, just isn't sexy for the mainstream and the casuals.

Proving the point, though. Those guys are not real needle-movers and there are plenty of veterans available who you KNOW can do the job who won't cost an arm and a leg.

33-yr-old Jrue Holiday cost Boston TWO future first-rounders [2024, 2029] AND Malcolm Brogdon. If you want to upgrade from a nice "glue guy" like Brogdon, it's gonna cost you.

Actually I thought there might be a new appreciation for FRPs this year, but nothing has changed. The Knicks just traded away 4 or 6 of 'em for a "glue guy" who went at #10 in his draft. Makes the Clippers deal for PG and thus scoring Kawhi to boot look totally sane. Whoever traded a 2024 FRP for a key veteran is looking pretty smart now.

Sure the draft is FREE talent. Hitting picks is great and admittedly, neither Doc nor Frank ever hit a damn thing. [That's what Jerry West was supposed to be here for, wasn't it?]

But trading smart remains the real key. The Process is bullspit, just gathering up picks willy-nilly, throwing them in the deep end of the pool, and seeing who floats is not how it works.

Danny Ainge did his version of The Process, and it finally paid off. ELEVEN YEARS later.

Well, we did absolutely hit it big with SGA , and Mann was a great find at his position. Generally in the 2nd round a guy like Mann represents the ceiling of what you can realistically hope for.

But yes the draft is a crapshoot, but we've essentially exhausted everything to get to the point where we are now and getting a couple of picks and younger rotation guys for PG would probably represent a long term improvement for us. I also agree that we do take the draft seriously, we just have been really bad at it for the most part so that's not a compliment either LOL.

The GSW rumors do make a lot of sense IMO and I hope they are real, though I have no idea what packages might actually have been discussed. I think getting PG would significantly help GSW maximize the remaining years for Steph, and he and PG would probably end up retiring around the same time.