Clipper 2015 Offseason

[nickhx2]

seraphin to the knicks for $2.8M.

mannnnnnnnnnn, feels like we could have snagged him since the price was so low. he would have been a near perfect way to cap this offseason.

[Ranma]

Even with a relatively low price point, the Clippers still couldn't afford Seraphin since we can't offer anything more than the veteran minimum. Yeah, maybe he would take less to play for a contender, but the fact that he signed with the Knicks says to me that he'd rather have the money and opportunity to play more in order to increase his market value.

[nickhx2]

yeah, he totally made the better financial decision as opposed to be being sandwiched between dj and cole aldrich for PT.

[JayClips92]

With reports of Markieff Morris wanting out....
Markieff Morris for Jamal and CJ

[nickhx2]

they'd seek value far better than that

[mike3]

I've heard multiple Clipper fans go "Jamal for Markieff Morris".. I don't get it:

A) Markieff is a talented guy, he's not a 3rd string PF, he doesn't play SF (or very little)
B) We've got Blake - Smith - Dawson at PF now, add Markieff and there's a lot of guys deserving of minutes who may struggle to get some. People then respond by saying something along the lines of Smith - Keef small ball off the bench. I can't see that working.

[Ranma]

I don't see the fit for Markieff Morris either given his attitude and remaining contract commitment as well as our current roster depth. Of course, Morris for Crawford and Wilcox represents better asset value so I get why people are calling for the deal and I wouldn't necessarily turn down such an offer if it were available. I'd just prefer to explore 3-way possibilities. It's unlikely we'd get anything better to dump Crawford, but the point is moot as I agree with nickhx2, it's very unlikely that the Suns would sign off on such a deal.

[Wammy Giveaway]

If the Clippers were to trade for superstar DeMar DeRozan using Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick, would you do it?

[Forte IV]

DeRozan isn't a superstar lol

[nickhx2]

lol

[Ranma]

If the Clippers were to trade for superstar DeMar DeRozan using Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick, would you do it?

No. Losing Redick would hurt us more than gaining DeRozan would help.

[Neddy]

If the Clippers were to trade for superstar DeMar DeRozan using Jamal Crawford and J.J. Redick, would you do it?

a 17 PER 0.2 VORP player with net negative 5 between his Ort and Drt is a superstar? then net positve 7 with 1.6 VORP JJ must be a Uberstar and a first ballot HOFer.

[Neddy]

the +1 icon needs a -1 companion icon badly in this forum. and if you accumulate net negative of 100 +1 points, you should be perma banned.

[JayClips92]

I've heard multiple Clipper fans go "Jamal for Markieff Morris".. I don't get it:

A) Markieff is a talented guy, he's not a 3rd string PF, he doesn't play SF (or very little)
B) We've got Blake - Smith - Dawson at PF now, add Markieff and there's a lot of guys deserving of minutes who may struggle to get some. People then respond by saying something along the lines of Smith - Keef small ball off the bench. I can't see that working.

I feel like most clipper fans just want to get rid of Jamal for nothing so if we could bring in a 25 year old who averaged 15 and 6 last year why not.
I don't see Doc playing Dawson very much, he barely played Wilcox last season even when there were blow outs
Last year Doc talked about playing a line up of DJ, Hawes & Blake, I think a line up of Blake, Keef & Josh Smith could work in spurts, mismatches for the other team and having DJ out could spread the floor more.
Josh Smith is a one year rental, it would be nice to get some consistency and get a young guy who's on a relatively good contract.

[Ranma]

Dan Feldman, NBCsports.com (8/7/15)

Chris Haynes of Cleveland.com:

I know Jamal personally, and I know he would definitely like to be a part of the Cavaliers’ organization.

Jamal is one guy off the top of my head that I know would be a fit, and I know that they’ll be looking at him.

They want to use that exception for a wing player.

Let’s be clear: This doesn’t mean Crawford doesn’t also want to play for the Clippers. Many role players want to join LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in Cleveland for the open shots and championship chance, but Chris Paul, Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan offer a similar opportunity.

The Clippers might not want to keep Crawford, though. He’s somewhat superfluous with Lance Stephenson, Austin Rivers and Pablo Prigioni coming off the bench. The Clippers might be happy to flip Crawford for just salary relief. Shedding Crawford would save the Clippers $16,180,533 – $5,675,000 in salary and $10,505,533 in projected luxury-tax payments.
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If Smith doesn’t, Crawford is a decent alternative as a spot-up shooter. His 3-point shooting sunk to 32.7% last season, but that was due to off-the dribble 3-pointers – which fell to 25.0% from 36.4% the year prior. Meanwhile, Crawford’s 3-point shooting without dribbling prior to launching ticked up from 36.0% to 38.0%.

Report: Jamal Crawford Would Want to Play for Cavaliers


Really much ado about nothing we already don't know, but it's good to be aware of just in case the rampant speculation start up again. We all already know Crawford would rather be on another team, but if the Clippers wanted to simply get salary cap relief, the organization would have bought him out for the 2015-16 season. Yes, our roster was in flux at the time but we already had J.J. Redick, Lance Stephenson, and C.J. Wilcox on the roster and it was clear that Doc didn't see him as part of the team's long-term future.

Another thing I take issue with in regards to this report is that if Jamal would relegate himself to being just a spot-up shooter, he'd be an asset to the Clippers as well. I've previously argued that Crawford still has the ability to help the Clippers if he would change his mindset to being more of a facilitator for teammates and a spot-up shooter, but that is not who he is or has been at heart, which is why his ball-dominant isolation playmaking does more harm than good for the team, especially with his lack of defense.

[Ranma]

Grant Hughes, BleacherReport.com (8/6/15)

Among players who attempted at least 190 spot-up shots last season, Crawford ranked fifth in the NBA with 1.22 points per play—ahead of noted marksmen like Danny Green and Wesley Matthews and just a hair behind teammate J.J. Redick. Side note: Holy smokes, Klay Thompson!
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That cuts against everything we know of him, though, and this has always been the most frustrating aspect of his game. Despite his obvious excellence as a standstill shooter (57.2 percent eFG percent on catch-and-shoot possessions last year), he has always insisted on yo-yoing the ball and hoisting contested pull-up jumpers.





More than half (52.4 percent) of his field-goal attempts were pull-ups last year, and his effective field-goal percentage was just 39.9 percent on those shots.

That's how a guy with a deadly standstill jumper wound up converting just 39.6 percent of his field goals and 32.7 percent of his threes last year.

Defensively, Crawford will always be a liability. According to ESPN.com's Real Plus-Minus, no shooting guard was worse last season.

Jamal Crawford Looking Like Odd Man Out for Rebuilt Los Angeles Clippers

[mattd13]

I think jamal still has value and if he starts out strong then doc will play him and someone else will lose time. the team is out to win it all, not rebuilding at this time. also, this team is built for the 2's to make open shots and spread the floor. lance and Austin could be in trouble if jamal looks good early. remember doc likes this guy. personally I hope he does well and accepts his role.

[og15]

I noticed this a while back that with Vinny, Jamal was actually a better crunch time player, but not because he created, but because Vinny used him as a spot up shooter playing off Paul. Jamal is actually a very good spot up shooter, it's his shot selection that is the issue, some of it not his fault, some, well...

Transitioning into his older years he should become a spot up shooter / defender and that would extend his useful value to good teams more so than still trying to be dance dance Jamal of his younger days, but still in dire situations he can be dance dance. The defense is the hard part though.

[Ranma]

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[Wammy Giveaway]

the +1 icon needs a -1 companion icon badly in this forum. and if you accumulate net negative of 100 +1 points, you should be perma banned.

I saw that. I officially hate you now. If you want to petition me being banned, go ahead. I can't deal with this anymore.