2019 - 2021 Free-Agents

[Galloisdaman]

If no KL the Clippers need to find some help.

Is Zubac a real answer at center?

How much would you pay Bev? Sounds like he has some dollar signs in his mind. I can't blame him for that.

[Ranma]

The problem is that rough estimate of $32.5 million in anticipated free salary-cap space doesn't seem to take into account the cap holds required for the open roster spots to be filled out. Plus, it is also contingent on Davis waiving the trade kicker as well as the timing of the actual official completion of the trade. I'm not sure the Lakers will have enough to pursue a max-level player even if a discount were given.

[Ranma]

The Lakers kind of went all in but if they play well the picks will not be so good. Feels like the Melo deal in some ways by giving up young players and picks. AD is a great player so what looks like a great haul for the Pelicans may not turn out to be that great if the Lakers play well. Lakers hope is that with AD and another FA their 2021 and 2024 picks will not be high. They are hoping that AD makes the pick swaps meaningless.
Ball (high pick)
Ingram (high pick)
#4 pick
2 other first (probably not great ones)
2 swap options (could be meaningless)

Based on Tania Ganguli's clarification tweet, there is only one swap option since the unprotected first-round pick has the option to defer to 2025 instead of Tim Bontemps's initial tweet reporting it as an unprotected swap for 2025.

Yes, the eventual outcome of the deal is largely dependent on how well the Lakers play here on out, but given the dysfunction of the organization and what already looks to be misleading cap numbers, I wouldn't bet on the Lakers breaking through just yet. LeBron and AD by themselves are not enough to contend, I would think.

[Galloisdaman]

The Lakers kind of went all in but if they play well the picks will not be so good. Feels like the Melo deal in some ways by giving up young players and picks. AD is a great player so what looks like a great haul for the Pelicans may not turn out to be that great if the Lakers play well. Lakers hope is that with AD and another FA their 2021 and 2024 picks will not be high. They are hoping that AD makes the pick swaps meaningless.
Ball (high pick)
Ingram (high pick)
#4 pick
2 other first (probably not great ones)
2 swap options (could be meaningless)

Based on Tania Ganguli's clarification tweet, there is only one swap option since the unprotected first-round pick has the right to defer to 2025 instead of Tim Bontemps initial tweet reporting it as an unprotected swap for 2025.

Yes, the eventual outcome of the deal is largely dependent on how well the Lakers play here on out, but given the dysfunction of the organization and what already looks to be misleading cap numbers, I wouldn't bet on the Lakers breaking through just yet. LeBron and AD by themselves are not enough to contend, I would think.

Talent wise (if healthy) Lebron, AD and Kuzma alone should mean a guaranteed 50-60 wins UNLESS Lebron's me first attitude and slacking on defense drags the franchise down. In the past Lebron alone meant 50 wins. His reputation has slipped.

[Ranma]

Talent wise (if healthy) Lebron, AD and Kuzma alone should mean a guaranteed 50-60 wins UNLESS Lebron's me first attitude and slacking on defense drags the franchise down. In the past Lebron alone meant 50 wins. His reputation has slipped.

You're seriously overrating Kuzma and/or repeating the same mistakes the Lakers made last season when LeBron and Magic put their knuckleheads together in fashioning that mish-mash roster of misfits. The team needs to space the floor with shooters as well as have depth to the roster, so no, that trio by themselves does not get them 50-60 wins. Until they find such complimentary pieces and depth, it's counting chicks before the eggs hatch.

[Galloisdaman]

Talent wise (if healthy) Lebron, AD and Kuzma alone should mean a guaranteed 50-60 wins UNLESS Lebron's me first attitude and slacking on defense drags the franchise down. In the past Lebron alone meant 50 wins. His reputation has slipped.

You're seriously overrating Kuzma and/or repeating the same mistakes the Lakers made last season when LeBron and Magic put their knuckleheads together in fashioning that mish-mash roster of misfits. The team needs to space the floor with shooters as well as have depth to the roster, so no, that trio by themselves does not get them 50-60 wins. Until they find such complimentary pieces and depth, it's counting chicks before the eggs hatch.

I agree that they need more but if Lebron is anything like old Lebron and AD is AD than talent wise they have two top 10 players. That is the hard part of building a roster. Finding the rest is much easier. I'm not 100% sold on them because of Lebrons me first attitude. I think that infected last seasons team so it could again. When I say 50-60 wins its just based on Lebron and AD's talent level but that talent can be infected again by Lebrons attitude and not playing defense. Talent wise the Lakers should be a very strong team but will their environment be healthy? Or toxic?

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[wco81]

If they can't get a max free agent, then they might go for shooters like Reddick and Ross.

[mkwest]

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It's just my opinion, but I don't think players should keep their trade kicker/bonus when they are the party forcing the trade.

[esqtvd]

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[Galloisdaman]

Everyone on the planet knows KL is plan A.

Is there a plan B if A does not work out?

[Captain Ballmer]

Everyone on the planet knows KL is plan A.

Is there a plan B if A does not work out?

I believe the plan B is the same one we are doing the last 2 years. Keep signing valuable contracts without loosing future flexibility. We probably will do some under the radar type of cheap signings a la Lou, Harrell.

[wco81]

Everyone on the planet knows KL is plan A.

Is there a plan B if A does not work out?

I believe the plan B is the same one we are doing the last 2 years. Keep signing valuable contracts without loosing future flexibility. We probably will do some under the radar type of cheap signings a la Lou, Harrell.

So the Danny Ainge plan?

[Galloisdaman]

Are there any young, fast, defensive rebounding centers out there?
Maybe a raw young version of DJ?

[Wammy Giveaway]

So the Danny Ainge plan?

Nah, more like the Spurs plan. Look for diamonds in the rough to craft, then bring in steady heady vets to show them what it takes to win.

The Danny Ainge plan involves stashing assets to trade for a superstar. Clippers won't do that - it conflicts with the unheralded blue collar ethos they are now embracing.

[MartinToVaught]

Everyone on the planet knows KL is plan A.

Is there a plan B if A does not work out?

I believe the plan B is the same one we are doing the last 2 years. Keep signing valuable contracts without loosing future flexibility. We probably will do some under the radar type of cheap signings a la Lou, Harrell.

So the Danny Ainge plan?

No, because our front office has already proven they aren't afraid to make bold trades like Ainge is. I don't think the Tobias trade would have happened if Ainge was our GM because he'd get greedy and start demanding even more.

[esqtvd]

So the Danny Ainge plan?

Nah, more like the Spurs plan. Look for diamonds in the rough to craft, then bring in steady heady vets to show them what it takes to win.

FTR, the Spurs legend needs a major update. They haven't drafted squat in 10 years. Not one of these guys has even averaged 10 points a game in a season.


2018 NBA 1 18 Lonnie Walker University of Miami
2018 NBA 2 49 Chimezie Metu University of Southern California
2017 NBA 1 29 Derrick White University of Colorado
2017 NBA 2 59 Jaron Blossomgame Clemson University
2016 NBA 1 29 Dejounte Murray University of Washington
2015 NBA 1 26 Nikola Milutinov Partizan Belgrade (Serbia)
2015 NBA 2 55 Cady Lalanne University of Massachusetts Amherst
2014 NBA 1 30 Kyle Anderson University of California, Los Angeles
2014 NBA 2 58 Jordan McRae University of Tennessee
2013 NBA 1 28 Livio Jean-Charles ASVEL Basket (France)
2013 NBA 2 58 Deshaun Thomas Ohio State University
2012 NBA 2 59 Marcus Denmon University of Missouri
2011 NBA 1 29 Cory Joseph University of Texas at Austin
2011 NBA 2 59 Adam Hanga Alba Fehérvár (Hungary)
2010 NBA 1 20 James Anderson Oklahoma State University
2010 NBA 2 49 Ryan Richards CB Gran Canaria (Spain)
2009 NBA 2 37 DeJuan Blair University of Pittsburgh
2009 NBA 2 51 Jack McClinton University of Miami
2009 NBA 2 53 Nando de Colo Cholet Basket (France)

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[Galloisdaman]

Wow Barnes turns down 25 mill? Salaries are nuts.