Game 59: Los Angeles Clippers (39-19) vs. Denver Nuggets (40-18) - 10:30 PM ET

[NippySudz]

Huge game/huge win from the Playoff seeding standpoint, especially. Denver is the most troubling to face without having Home Court adv for the series.

Wasn't an issue for Portland last year. Denver doesn't have Superstars that know when to take over games. Jokic is great but he's passive at times where they need him the most and he's not a two way player. I can't see them beating any team with superstars

Maybe unless mpj gets more minutes and turned into KD

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Jokic is the only dependable playoff performer on that team. He dragged them to that series win against the Spurs last year by himself, when the Spurs were practically begging to lose. I honestly think we would have beaten them.

You're the one who said this year's clippers will lose in the first round. I can't take your takes at face value currently lol.

You raved about coach Malone and I keep telling you, this Denver nuggets team loses to sub .500 teams even when they're healthy.

We have issues with losing to sub.500 teams but we had an up and down year and it's our first yr together. The Malone project has been going on since 2014. The current roster has played together for two or three years and get blown out by teams like the Cavs.

We definitely lost some games that we shouldn't be losing even with injuries, but as I said earlier, we're still in a good position to contend when you have a second seed like Denver that doesn't have a superstar that can take over games. Jokic can be that guy in stretches. Jokic can't be that guy for a seven game series.

Only team that concerns me other than the Lakers is the rockets.

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[NippySudz]

If you go on nuggets social media, it's a bunch of fire mike Malone and play mpj more minutes.

Every fanbase overreacts.

Mpj might deserve more minutes, but mpj is still a yr or two away. He's still kinda raw.

As for Mike Malone, Mike Malone is the reason nuggets are successful. Saying fire mike Malone, you better have a better replacement lined up.

Lastly, what is Mike Malone supposed to do to guard LeBron, kawhi or pg? They have no big wings. Why is no one blaming the nuggets front office for not securing defensive stoppers?

Should Denver make it to finals, they're not stopping giannis. They did win at Milwaukee but in a seven game set, they're not stopping him

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[og15]

If only the clippers picked up dwight howard during the offseason....

Dwight wouldn't be making a difference when Jokic is making shots like this:

Read on Twitter

Watch on YouTube

Jump to the 4:53 mark if you're interested to see just how well Dwight played jokic. Active hands, strength. It's much more better than just hands up defense

Partly not zu's fault. He's just not as strong or mobile to be switched like that.

But I always hated the hands up, let me launch my midsection at you but claim verticality defense lol. It's fine honestly but I wish Zu was more defensively sound against more skilled players.

Maybe in due time

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agreed, I always found that funny, I always think, players understand there is such a thing as a "blocking foul", right?? So why do they think that if you put your hands up and commit a blocking foul, it doesn't count?

Huge game/huge win from the Playoff seeding standpoint, especially. Denver is the most troubling to face without having Home Court adv for the series.

Wasn't an issue for Portland last year. Denver doesn't have Superstars that know when to take over games. Jokic is great but he's passive at times where they need him the most and he's not a two way player. I can't see them beating any team with superstars

Maybe unless mpj gets more minutes and turned into KD

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Jokic is the only dependable playoff performer on that team. He dragged them to that series win against the Spurs last year by himself, when the Spurs were practically begging to lose. I honestly think we would have beaten them.

Denver is an interesting team, emphasis on the team part. Jokic is their only true "star", so technically he's the only guy expected to be consistent throughout a series, but they pretty consistently got production from different guys through that series scoring wise to keep themselves going. I think it is unfair to say that Jamal Murray wasn't consistent vs SA, since there's no such thing as 100% consistency from players. Jamal Murray averaged 19/3/4 for that series, he had 17, 24, 6, 24, 23, 16, 23. So it's really just that 6 point game that was very bad. Game 1 was not "good" in isolation, but not the worst game, he used 23 FGA to get those 17 points, Game 6 he used 18 FGA to get his 16 points, so below average there. That's pretty good for a non-star player.

In their wins:
Game 2 they had 4 guys with 20+ points
Game 4 win, Jokic 29, Craig 18, Murray 24, 15/31 3PT as a team (4 guys with 2+ 3PM)
Game 5 win Murray 23, Barton 17, Jokic 16, Harris 15, Millsap 14, Beasley 11, Morris 10 (5 guys with 2+ 3PM)
Game 7 just Murray and Jokic producing scoring wise, Jokic struggled with efficiency, but it was a not an efficient offensive game from either side

That model of team does maybe require your main guy to be more of a "takeover" scorer, and if Jokic is not that, then Denver's goal will be to get him a guy who is not necessarily a better player, but just better in that aspect of basketball.

[Clippers2020]

Only team that concerns me other than the Lakers is the rockets.

Westbrook and Harden are horrible playoff shooters/chuckers, so I wouldn't worry about them.
And the Lakers have done nothing to suggest they'll threaten the Clippers, let alone win a game.

[NippySudz]

Dwight wouldn't be making a difference when Jokic is making shots like this:

Read on Twitter

Watch on YouTube

Jump to the 4:53 mark if you're interested to see just how well Dwight played jokic. Active hands, strength. It's much more better than just hands up defense

Partly not zu's fault. He's just not as strong or mobile to be switched like that.

But I always hated the hands up, let me launch my midsection at you but claim verticality defense lol. It's fine honestly but I wish Zu was more defensively sound against more skilled players.

Maybe in due time

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agreed, I always found that funny, I always think, players understand there is such a thing as a "blocking foul", right?? So why do they think that if you put your hands up and commit a blocking foul, it doesn't count?

Wasn't an issue for Portland last year. Denver doesn't have Superstars that know when to take over games. Jokic is great but he's passive at times where they need him the most and he's not a two way player. I can't see them beating any team with superstars

Maybe unless mpj gets more minutes and turned into KD

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Jokic is the only dependable playoff performer on that team. He dragged them to that series win against the Spurs last year by himself, when the Spurs were practically begging to lose. I honestly think we would have beaten them.

Denver is an interesting team, emphasis on the team part. Jokic is their only true "star", so technically he's the only guy expected to be consistent throughout a series, but they pretty consistently got production from different guys through that series scoring wise to keep themselves going. I think it is unfair to say that Jamal Murray wasn't consistent vs SA, since there's no such thing as 100% consistency from players. Jamal Murray averaged 19/3/4 for that series, he had 17, 24, 6, 24, 23, 16, 23. So it's really just that 6 point game that was very bad. Game 1 was not "good" in isolation, but not the worst game, he used 23 FGA to get those 17 points, Game 6 he used 18 FGA to get his 16 points, so below average there. That's pretty good for a non-star player.

In their wins:
Game 2 they had 4 guys with 20+ points
Game 4 win, Jokic 29, Craig 18, Murray 24, 15/31 3PT as a team (4 guys with 2+ 3PM)
Game 5 win Murray 23, Barton 17, Jokic 16, Harris 15, Millsap 14, Beasley 11, Morris 10 (5 guys with 2+ 3PM)
Game 7 just Murray and Jokic producing scoring wise, Jokic struggled with efficiency, but it was a not an efficient offensive game from either side

That model of team does maybe require your main guy to be more of a "takeover" scorer, and if Jokic is not that, then Denver's goal will be to get him a guy who is not necessarily a better player, but just better in that aspect of basketball.

Nuggets fan think mpj had the potential to be that guy and so do I but he does need to play more than 4 minutes of playing time so that's on Malone. Beasely was traded and mpj is supposed to eat up his mins. in due time, he will become that guy but he's a liability on defense right now.

Still was worth a shot trying last night and Malone didn't make that adjustment.

I don't think he's ready this season to be that guy, not over there course of 7 game set anyway

I've watched all the nuggets playoff run last yr. You can see Malone trying to rally jokic to take over and jokic is not really getting it or just wants to keep it focused on the team. He's good enough to be a go to guy but he's passive down the stretch.

His lack of conditioning this past summer shows me he doesn't put in the work in the summertime. He lost 25lbs during the season getting into shape

He's a smart basketball player but I don't believe he has as much drive as the other top players in the game to get better. Man just got hella good IQ and feel for the game.

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[Clemenza]

Great win.. We're going to be a problem if we can stay healthy. The Reggie Jackson pickup as been huge for us so far.

[NippySudz]

Only team that concerns me other than the Lakers is the rockets.

Westbrook and Harden are horrible playoff shooters/chuckers, so I wouldn't worry about them.
And the Lakers have done nothing to suggest they'll threaten the Clippers, let alone win a game.

You overlook every opponent dude. Lol.

These two are playing in a new system that benefits them both greatly. You can underestimate them if you want to. I am not

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[Clippers2020]

Only team that concerns me other than the Lakers is the rockets.

Westbrook and Harden are horrible playoff shooters/chuckers, so I wouldn't worry about them.
And the Lakers have done nothing to suggest they'll threaten the Clippers, let alone win a game.

You overlook every opponent dude. Lol.

These two are playing in a new system that benefits them both greatly. You can underestimate them if you want to. I am not

I overlook the regular season teams, because they aren't made for the playoffs.

[NippySudz]

Westbrook and Harden are horrible playoff shooters/chuckers, so I wouldn't worry about them.
And the Lakers have done nothing to suggest they'll threaten the Clippers, let alone win a game.

You overlook every opponent dude. Lol.

These two are playing in a new system that benefits them both greatly. You can underestimate them if you want to. I am not

I overlook the regular season teams, because they aren't made for the playoffs.

Who other the clippers do you take as contenders?

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[og15]

Westbrook and Harden are horrible playoff shooters/chuckers, so I wouldn't worry about them.
And the Lakers have done nothing to suggest they'll threaten the Clippers, let alone win a game.

You overlook every opponent dude. Lol.

These two are playing in a new system that benefits them both greatly. You can underestimate them if you want to. I am not

I overlook the regular season teams, because they aren't made for the playoffs.

It's okay, as long as the actual team isn't overlooking any opponents then it's all good, fans can do it all we want.

Rockets are going to be interesting, looks like they've found a way to make Westbrook efficient. Harden is not a horrible playoff shooter though, certainly decreases from his regular season, but he's still efficient.

[TrueLAfan]

As I mentioned in the GB, Reggie Jackson has been better than I imagined so far, if it continues the pickup will be looking better than expected.

Every piece of the cog did their part tonight, great win.

This. Jackson is literally giving us a massive massive boost—probably a couple of points or more per game. The four man gang whose minutes he’s taking (McGruder, Rome, Walton, Mann) were afraid to take shots and barely drew iron when they did. Just being an adequate shooter is worth an extra point a game. It’s just math. Even if RJ only shoots as much as those four guys did (4.5 shots per 20 minutes), he’s so much better as a shooter that’s he’s giving us nearly 1.3 points per game more in those 4.5 shots. That’s how much those four—particularly Rome and McGruder—have been hurting our bench scoring.

And that’s leaving out the ball movement. RJ is taking a little over 12 shots per 36; about what you expect from a decent shooting/scoring PG. And as a distributor, he’s crushing it. Crushing it. He’s averaging an assist every 4.4 minutes. His assist percentage is over 32%, which is terrific. Our second team has simultaneously received a massive shooting boost along with a huge distributing boost that doesn’t force Lou to be a PG.

I’m realistic. I don’t expect this to last; Reggie isn’t going to shoot 48% and 42% from 3 for his Clipper career. But I also think it’s realistic to expect Reggie to be a 42 and 35 guy that gets to the line a little because that’s what he’s done for the last four years. I think it’s realistic for him to get an assist every 5 and a half minute because that’s what he’s done for the last four years. Until I looked into it, I really didn’t grasp how much our offense was losing playing McGruder, Rome, Walton, and Mann for 30 minutes a game. Having a NBA caliber near-starter—because Reggie Jackson is basically a slightly below average NBA starter playing as our #8 or #9 player and replacing a bagful of wet dog hair—for 20 of those 30 minutes a game is such a significant plus that it’s kind of amazing me.

[nickhx2]

GB thread on the reggie jackson signing lol

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[NippySudz]

GB thread on the reggie jackson signing lol

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1942872

Started off positive then others chimed in lol

I wasn't high or low on the signing. I was neutral about it. At least that's how I remember it. I was just happy no more effing mcgruder when I heard the news. I was more worried about getting an experienced center. I still kinda worried about that. Zu is inexperienced. He'll hold his own here and there in the playoffs but I'm worried about the later rounds.


Just my anxiety lol

but I can't argue. this was a great pick up. It's so interesting reading people's hot takes. You can tell who watches game vs who watch boxscores and highlights. Even among our own game threads. For example MTV said the refs were the reason why Zu couldn't guard jokic and jokic is a superstar and he's getting all these ticky tack fouls when really jokic scored ten of the first 12 points for the nuggets in the first quarter on a series of moves for layups and chip ins .

In that general board thread, people were saying we don't need a point guard and it's playing keep away from the lakers Really didn't watch mcgruder stink up the joint for series of games. Watching mcgruder play is so damn infuriating.lol.


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[esqtvd]

If you go on nuggets social media, it's a bunch of fire mike Malone and play mpj more minutes.

Every fanbase overreacts.

Mpj might deserve more minutes, but mpj is still a yr or two away. He's still kinda raw.

As for Mike Malone, Mike Malone is the reason nuggets are successful. Saying fire mike Malone, you better have a better replacement lined up.

Lastly, what is Mike Malone supposed to do to guard LeBron, kawhi or pg? They have no big wings. Why is no one blaming the nuggets front office for not securing defensive stoppers?

Should Denver make it to finals, they're not stopping giannis. They did win at Milwaukee but in a seven game set, they're not stopping him

I was playing a gig but kept track of the game on one of the bar's TVs. Doc and the boys fed all our fairweather Clipper "fans" a big shittburger lol.

https://www.facebook.com/Fire-coach-Mike-Malone-1345541728849469/posts/


As for Planet Zubac, don't be too hard on your boy. Nobody's figured out Jokic. He got his [21-9-2, 25 minutes], but didn't hurt us. Zubac did fine. And Trezz's 18-10-4 in only 20 minutes more than balanced it out.

[NippySudz]

If you go on nuggets social media, it's a bunch of fire mike Malone and play mpj more minutes.

Every fanbase overreacts.

Mpj might deserve more minutes, but mpj is still a yr or two away. He's still kinda raw.

As for Mike Malone, Mike Malone is the reason nuggets are successful. Saying fire mike Malone, you better have a better replacement lined up.

Lastly, what is Mike Malone supposed to do to guard LeBron, kawhi or pg? They have no big wings. Why is no one blaming the nuggets front office for not securing defensive stoppers?

Should Denver make it to finals, they're not stopping giannis. They did win at Milwaukee but in a seven game set, they're not stopping him

I was playing a gig but kept track of the game on one of the bar's TVs. Doc and the boys fed all our fairweather Clipper "fans" a big shittburger lol.

https://www.facebook.com/Fire-coach-Mike-Malone-1345541728849469/posts/


As for Planet Zubac, don't be too hard on your boy. Nobody's figured out Jokic. He got his [21-9-2, 25 minutes], but didn't hurt us. Zubac did fine. And Trezz's 18-10-4 in only 20 minutes more than balanced it out.

I'm thinking in the scope of playoffs. Do we really expect Zu to be suddenly this experienced center that has championship meddle?

I think that's unrealistic. Trez issue is more so he's undersized and misses rotations as opposed to just being inexperienced.

What if zu goes down, god forbid and we need size? We should get some center insurance.

If you can, watch the game and not the boxscore. Watch the first quarter and maybe the second quarter . It was like seeing a big brother play his little brother in a pick up game.

I know jokic is a superstar and top ten player, he makes good defenders look silly at times, I don't dismiss that..but if we were to face them them with the pressure of the playoffs, can Zu handle the assignment with relative no playoff experience? That's the question I have

I still think we beat Denver because we have other tools that can negate Denver but maybe not jokic but Milwaukee, brook Lopez I don't think we have an answer for that on both hands.

I hope your gig went well

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[esqtvd]

If you go on nuggets social media, it's a bunch of fire mike Malone and play mpj more minutes.

Every fanbase overreacts.

Mpj might deserve more minutes, but mpj is still a yr or two away. He's still kinda raw.

As for Mike Malone, Mike Malone is the reason nuggets are successful. Saying fire mike Malone, you better have a better replacement lined up.

Lastly, what is Mike Malone supposed to do to guard LeBron, kawhi or pg? They have no big wings. Why is no one blaming the nuggets front office for not securing defensive stoppers?

Should Denver make it to finals, they're not stopping giannis. They did win at Milwaukee but in a seven game set, they're not stopping him

I was playing a gig but kept track of the game on one of the bar's TVs. Doc and the boys fed all our fairweather Clipper "fans" a big shittburger lol.

https://www.facebook.com/Fire-coach-Mike-Malone-1345541728849469/posts/


As for Planet Zubac, don't be too hard on your boy. Nobody's figured out Jokic. He got his [21-9-2, 25 minutes], but didn't hurt us. Zubac did fine. And Trezz's 18-10-4 in only 20 minutes more than balanced it out.

I'm thinking in the scope of playoffs. Do we really expect Zu to be suddenly this experienced center that has championship meddle?

I think that's unrealistic. Trez issue is more so he's undersized and misses rotations as opposed to just being inexperienced.

What if zu goes down, god forbid and we need size? We should get some center insurance.

If you can, watch the game and not the boxscore. Watch the first quarter and maybe the second quarter . It was like seeing a big brother play his little brother in a pick up game.

I know jokic is a superstar and top ten player, he makes good defenders look silly at times, I don't dismiss that..but if we were to face them them with the pressure of the playoffs, can Zu handle the assignment with relative no playoff experience? That's the question I have

I still think we beat Denver because we have other tools that can negate Denver but maybe not jokic but Milwaukee, brook Lopez I don't think we have an answer for that on both hands.

I hope your gig went well

yes all my gigs go well thx


As for Zubac and the center position, you have to compromise somewhere. We're spending $12M on centers and Denver is paying Joker $26M. But we still came out even in production. And even if Trezz is doing a lot of his damage against second units--so what??

[BTW, Denver is paying Plumlee $14M--meaning they're using $40M of their cap for two guys Zu and Trezz played pretty much to a draw. That's pretty cool. But Plumlee and Millsap's $30M come off the books this summer, so that's a little scary.]


But yes, I agree--I've been agitating for a 3rd big if only as personal foul cannon fodder. It's not unimaginable that a Jokic or Embiid could get both our centers in foul trouble early in the first half, and we're kinda screwed if they do. But we have an open roster spot, and I'm sure that's what the FO is holding it open for. Maybe it'll be Noah but let's wait awhile to make sure he's healthy for the playoffs and/or nobody better hits the market.

[esqtvd]

interesting

the only Clipper 2-man combinations under zero in Net Rating [minimum 150 minutes]

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.M. Harkless, .M. Harrell   LAC   48   521   103.7   104.5   -0.8   
.L. Williams, .R. McGruder   LAC   41   459   106.3   108.1   -1.7   
.J. Green, .R. McGruder   LAC   41   430   104.5   106.7   -2.2   
.M. Harkless, .J. Green   LAC   29   210   100.8   103.3   -2.5   
.R. McGruder, .L. Shamet   LAC   32   216   104.5   107.2   -2.7   
.L. Williams, .I. Zubac   LAC   56   311   103.7   106.6   -3.0   
.M. Harkless, .L. Shamet   LAC   32   359   107.9   111.1   -3.2   
.L. Williams, .M. Harkless   LAC   46   526   104.2   108.0   -3.8   
.P. Beverley, .P. Patterson   LAC   30   241   98.8           102.9   -4.1   

quick conclusions:


--Harkless was ass
--McGruder is ass but we already knew that but the stats prove it

--Lou and Zu = DEATH

Top 10:

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.P. Beverley, .M. Harrell   LAC   42   483   116.5   101.1   15.4   
.P. Beverley, .K. Leonard   LAC   36   805   116.6   101.3   15.3   
.K. Leonard, .M. Harrell   LAC   45   672   115.9   101.2   14.7   
.P. Beverley, .L. Shamet   LAC   27   402   115.0   101.2   13.8   
.K. Leonard, .J. Green   LAC   36   318   114.1   101.2   12.9   
.P. George, .J. Green           LAC   28   226   113.1   100.4   12.7   
.P. Beverley, .J. Green   LAC   33   255   117.3   105.3   12.0   
.P. Patterson, .K. Leonard   LAC   27   255   111.5    99.6           11.9   
.P. Patterson, .M. Harrell   LAC   38   228   111.3    99.8           11.5   
.K. Leonard, .M. Harkless   LAC   38   648   114.2   103.4   10.8   
.P. Beverley, .P. George   LAC   26   567   116.0   105.6   10.5   
.P. George, .K. Leonard   LAC   27   631   113.6   103.5   10.1   
.P. George, .I. Zubac           LAC   37   572   114.0   103.9   10.1   

quick conclusions:

--2 of the top 3 are with Trezz, especially including with Kawhi, which is all that matters
--Kawhi even made Harkless look good, which is why most people didn't notice he was ass
--Zubac squeaks into the top 10 only when we're at full strength with PG
--Beverley 4 of the top 10 pairs
--Patterson did well as a placeholder starter
--Green seems to play very well with with first-unit guys


worth consideration and discussion

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&GroupQuantity=2&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*150



BTW the lineups with Reggie [limited sample, minutes > 45] are sick

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&GroupQuantity=2&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*45

[NippySudz]

interesting

the only Clipper 2-man combinations under zero in Net Rating [minimum 150 minutes]

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.M. Harkless, .M. Harrell   LAC   48   521   103.7   104.5   -0.8   
.L. Williams, .R. McGruder   LAC   41   459   106.3   108.1   -1.7   
.J. Green, .R. McGruder   LAC   41   430   104.5   106.7   -2.2   
.M. Harkless, .J. Green   LAC   29   210   100.8   103.3   -2.5   
.R. McGruder, .L. Shamet   LAC   32   216   104.5   107.2   -2.7   
.L. Williams, .I. Zubac   LAC   56   311   103.7   106.6   -3.0   
.M. Harkless, .L. Shamet   LAC   32   359   107.9   111.1   -3.2   
.L. Williams, .M. Harkless   LAC   46   526   104.2   108.0   -3.8   
.P. Beverley, .P. Patterson   LAC   30   241   98.8           102.9   -4.1   

quick conclusions:


--Harkless was ass
--McGruder is ass but we already knew that but the stats prove it

--Lou and Zu = DEATH

Top 10:

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.P. Beverley, .M. Harrell   LAC   42   483   116.5   101.1   15.4   
.P. Beverley, .K. Leonard   LAC   36   805   116.6   101.3   15.3   
.K. Leonard, .M. Harrell   LAC   45   672   115.9   101.2   14.7   
.P. Beverley, .L. Shamet   LAC   27   402   115.0   101.2   13.8   
.K. Leonard, .J. Green   LAC   36   318   114.1   101.2   12.9   
.P. George, .J. Green           LAC   28   226   113.1   100.4   12.7   
.P. Beverley, .J. Green   LAC   33   255   117.3   105.3   12.0   
.P. Patterson, .K. Leonard   LAC   27   255   111.5    99.6           11.9   
.P. Patterson, .M. Harrell   LAC   38   228   111.3    99.8           11.5   
.K. Leonard, .M. Harkless   LAC   38   648   114.2   103.4   10.8   
.P. Beverley, .P. George   LAC   26   567   116.0   105.6   10.5   
.P. George, .K. Leonard   LAC   27   631   113.6   103.5   10.1   
.P. George, .I. Zubac           LAC   37   572   114.0   103.9   10.1   

quick conclusions:

--2 of the top 3 are with Trezz, especially including with Kawhi, which is all that matters
--Kawhi even made Harkless look good, which is why most people didn't notice he was ass
--Zubac squeaks into the top 10 only when we're at full strength with PG
--Beverley 4 of the top 10 pairs
--Patterson did well as a placeholder starter
--Green seems to play very well with with first-unit guys


worth consideration and discussion

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&GroupQuantity=2&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*150



BTW the lineups with Reggie [limited sample, minutes > 45] are sick

https://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/?Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&GroupQuantity=2&sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*G*45

I'm curious to see what's going to happen against the rockets..we match well on paper small ball wise. The only problem is Westbrook. I care more about beating the rockets than the Lakers at this point.

Felt like the rockets stole a game from is that we should have won being up 15..should be 2-1 on the season.

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[Clippers2020]

You overlook every opponent dude. Lol.

These two are playing in a new system that benefits them both greatly. You can underestimate them if you want to. I am not

I overlook the regular season teams, because they aren't made for the playoffs.

Who other the clippers do you take as contenders?

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Only one team in the West - the Lakers.
If the Lakers can avoid playing the Clippers, then the Lakers should reach the NBA Finals.

[NippySudz]

I overlook the regular season teams, because they aren't made for the playoffs.

Who other the clippers do you take as contenders?

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Only one team in the West - the Lakers.
If the Lakers can avoid playing the Clippers, then the Lakers should reach the NBA Finals.

I personally think the rockets have a chance and so do the Lakers. Russell Westbrook is following the LeBron model but with a caveat. No big men and the lane is wide open. For the first time in his career. It's not like the okc days. He's playing an elite level, super efficient. No one has an answer for it..yet


I think clippers can matchup small ball should we need to go there but containing Westbrook in transition will be a problem imo. Luckily the games slow down a bit in the playoffs

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