GAME 50: Clippers (32-17) vs Nuggets (32-17)—Thursday 10PM

[MartinToVaught]

Why is T Mann not starting over Reggie? This is an absolute joke.

At this point, the only explanation is that we have ANOTHER bad coach who plays favorites. This whole Reggie obsession has been going on all season. It's this year's version of Doc refusing to play Zu over Trez.

Lets not act like Reggie hasn't had some good games as of late. At least he's suiting up and busting his azz. Pat Bev is at $15 million a year. And what's taking Rondo so long to make his debut? You're rippin' a guy that's a fill in the roster player who was supposed to be at the end of the bench this year.

And yep, Mann's ballin' and Ty Lue now has to take his role a step further as he keeps breaking through a new ceiling almost every game. Yes he needs to be a starter.

Reggie's had some good performances lately for sure, but at the end of the day, he's still a one-dimensional player with poor BBIQ, and not someone I'd ever feel comfortable with giving any important minutes to in the playoffs. We need to give Mann a larger role. Not just because he's a better player, but also because his playstyle isn't redundant with the rest of the team.

[nickhx2]

oh cool like 80th game in 90 nights and one starter out, two returning from injury, and one guy who should be a starter i consider retired since i'm pretty sure he doesn't even play basketball anymore and the board is overreacting again, good to know

[RingColluder]

PG is injured/washed up or a combination of both. Kawhi can't close out games anymore. Morris is hit or miss. Kennard won't step up and demand the ball. Reggie is a fill in-stop gap player. Patterson needs to retire.

F*ck it, might be time to usher in the Mann-Zu era early.

bc Kawhi has to carry this team on his back since PG is absolute garbage every game. Are you for real man?

I addressed PG, do you not read? Kawhi missed a lot of chippies down the stretch against Orlando and Denver. He's got to bring us home in one of those games. I still believe in him though.

You're bashing Kawhi as if he didn't carry the team on his back for most of the game. Sit down. You're clueless about Kawhi, "can't close out games" when he has to start closing out games in the middle of the 3rd.

[RingColluder]

I know people here love to **** on PG, but honestly Kawhi hasn't been clutch at all this season. I am curious to see 4th quarter scoring average to see where he ranks.

Identical situation to the Magic game. He's forced to go iso heavy from the middle of the 3rd quarter ALL THE WAY to the end of the game. This is ridiculous. OF course he's going to be gassed when Paul George every game is either injured or shooting 5-15 EVERY SINGLE GAME.

[RingColluder]

Why is T Mann not starting over Reggie? This is an absolute joke.

At this point, the only explanation is that we have ANOTHER bad coach who plays favorites. This whole Reggie obsession has been going on all season. It's this year's version of Doc refusing to play Zu over Trez.

I'm beginning to get extremely concerned myself.

If TMann isn't starting by next game, really going to start raising some questions about Lue.

Like him playing Kawhi an extra 3-4 minutes when we're up 20 with a back to back coming.

[RingColluder]

At this point, the only explanation is that we have ANOTHER bad coach who plays favorites. This whole Reggie obsession has been going on all season. It's this year's version of Doc refusing to play Zu over Trez.

Lets not act like Reggie hasn't had some good games as of late. At least he's suiting up and busting his azz. Pat Bev is at $15 million a year. And what's taking Rondo so long to make his debut? You're rippin' a guy that's a fill in the roster player who was supposed to be at the end of the bench this year.

And yep, Mann's ballin' and Ty Lue now has to take his role a step further as he keeps breaking through a new ceiling almost every game. Yes he needs to be a starter.

Reggie's had some good performances lately for sure, but at the end of the day, he's still a one-dimensional player with poor BBIQ, and not someone I'd ever feel comfortable with giving any important minutes to in the playoffs. We need to give Mann a larger role. Not just because he's a better player, but also because his playstyle isn't redundant with the rest of the team.

I think Reggie would be better on the 2nd team as a spot up guy. His issue is his defense mainly and that he straight up isn't a PG. I'd still trust him w PG duties over Paul George.


Mann needs to be the starter.

NINE minutes for Mann in the 1st half is absolutely ridiculous.

[RingColluder]

oh cool like 80th game in 90 nights and one starter out, two returning from injury, and one guy who should be a starter i consider retired since i'm pretty sure he doesn't even play basketball anymore and the board is overreacting again, good to know

The issue is Paul George. He continues to look absolutely horrendous as a playmaker, ball handler and shooting the ball.

Notice how well our team has moved the basketball later with him out? The dude is a ball stopper and a below average shooter.

if ANYONE else was playing like he does, he would be benched. BOTTOM LINE. But because he's a max guy people are forced to accept his disastrous play. He's an absolute nightmare of a player, and everyone outside of certain Clipper fans can see it. Absolutely delusional.


Kawhi deserves so much better. I'm crushed.


PG needs to have Marcus Morris's role and Marcus needs to be our 2nd offensive option. PG is fine on defense so he can still start, but god he will be the reason we lose in the 1st round. I'm **** sick of him, he is ruining this team.

[MartinToVaught]

oh cool like 80th game in 90 nights and one starter out, two returning from injury, and one guy who should be a starter i consider retired since i'm pretty sure he doesn't even play basketball anymore and the board is overreacting again, good to know

Posts like these just remind me of last season (and the entire Lob City era, for that matter) when the critics were always told they were "overreacting" because [insert excuses here], despite the Clippers' consistent lack of success when it matters.

It's April. This team should be rounding into form for the playoffs right now, not scrambling for excuses after another embarrassing loss. The criticism is deserved.

[Clemenza]

bc Kawhi has to carry this team on his back since PG is absolute garbage every game. Are you for real man?

I addressed PG, do you not read? Kawhi missed a lot of chippies down the stretch against Orlando and Denver. He's got to bring us home in one of those games. I still believe in him though.

You're bashing Kawhi as if he didn't carry the team on his back for most of the game. Sit down. You're clueless about Kawhi, "can't close out games" when he has to start closing out games in the middle of the 3rd.

So what, close one of these f*cking games out if we're within three points or less! He's the Batman, alpha, and face of the team. Of course its not going to happen every game but bring us the f*ck home once in a while. 24 points isn't carrying a team. Damn near all big stars pull out wins like tonight. Bron, Lillard, Luka, Curry would've put at least one of those games away even with their sidekick playing like sh*t if they're within five or less points. Come on man, don't be a blind d**k rider

[Clemenza]

At this point, the only explanation is that we have ANOTHER bad coach who plays favorites. This whole Reggie obsession has been going on all season. It's this year's version of Doc refusing to play Zu over Trez.

Lets not act like Reggie hasn't had some good games as of late. At least he's suiting up and busting his azz. Pat Bev is at $15 million a year. And what's taking Rondo so long to make his debut? You're rippin' a guy that's a fill in the roster player who was supposed to be at the end of the bench this year.

And yep, Mann's ballin' and Ty Lue now has to take his role a step further as he keeps breaking through a new ceiling almost every game. Yes he needs to be a starter.

Reggie's had some good performances lately for sure, but at the end of the day, he's still a one-dimensional player with poor BBIQ, and not someone I'd ever feel comfortable with giving any important minutes to in the playoffs. We need to give Mann a larger role. Not just because he's a better player, but also because his playstyle isn't redundant with the rest of the team.

You're right but the thing is, he's not supposed to be playing. He was supposed to be a 'break glass in case of an emergency' player for us this year unlike last season.

[esqtvd]

oh cool like 80th game in 90 nights and one starter out, two returning from injury, and one guy who should be a starter i consider retired since i'm pretty sure he doesn't even play basketball anymore and the board is overreacting again, good to know

The issue is Paul George. He continues to look absolutely horrendous as a playmaker, ball handler and shooting the ball.

Notice how well our team has moved the basketball later with him out? The dude is a ball stopper and a below average shooter.

if ANYONE else was playing like he does, he would be benched. BOTTOM LINE. But because he's a max guy people are forced to accept his disastrous play. He's an absolute nightmare of a player, and everyone outside of certain Clipper fans can see it. Absolutely delusional.


Kawhi deserves so much better. I'm crushed.


PG needs to have Marcus Morris's role and Marcus needs to be our 2nd offensive option. PG is fine on defense so he can still start, but god he will be the reason we lose in the 1st round. I'm **** sick of him, he is ruining this team.

FTR: PG is struggling with his shot but over the last 5/10/15 games [pick any one] he is

#1 in plus/minus
#1 in assists
#2 in scoring
#2 in rebounding

the shooting is unfortunate but he IS producing

BTW--Kawhi is #5 in plus/minus [PG = +9.1, KL =+5.8] and even worse from distance [PG = 34.6%, KL = 31.6%]

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional/?sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=-1&Season=2020-21&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&LastNGames=10

[RingColluder]

I addressed PG, do you not read? Kawhi missed a lot of chippies down the stretch against Orlando and Denver. He's got to bring us home in one of those games. I still believe in him though.

You're bashing Kawhi as if he didn't carry the team on his back for most of the game. Sit down. You're clueless about Kawhi, "can't close out games" when he has to start closing out games in the middle of the 3rd.

So what, close one of these f*cking games out if we're within three points or less! He's the Batman, alpha, and face of the team. Of course its not going to happen every game but bring us the f*ck home once in a while. 24 points isn't carrying a team. Damn near all big stars pull out wins like tonight. Bron, Lillard, Luka, Curry would've put at least one of those games away even with their sidekick playing like sh*t if they're within five or less points. Come on man, don't be a blind d**k rider

He is all those things. Look at HOW Kawhi has to be scoring, the nuggets were doubling him all game to force it others and even still he bullied his way to find ways to score or contribute with rebounds etc..


Talk about LeBron? Kawhi looks like how LeBron did on that Lakers team where they didn't make the playoffs and NO ONE else was doing anything. The difference is Kawhi played till the final bell where LeBron flat out gave up halfway through the season. Thank you for mentioning that, you're proving exactly what I've been saying.

[Clemenza]

You're bashing Kawhi as if he didn't carry the team on his back for most of the game. Sit down. You're clueless about Kawhi, "can't close out games" when he has to start closing out games in the middle of the 3rd.

So what, close one of these f*cking games out if we're within three points or less! He's the Batman, alpha, and face of the team. Of course its not going to happen every game but bring us the f*ck home once in a while. 24 points isn't carrying a team. Damn near all big stars pull out wins like tonight. Bron, Lillard, Luka, Curry would've put at least one of those games away even with their sidekick playing like sh*t if they're within five or less points. Come on man, don't be a blind d**k rider

He is all those things. Look at HOW Kawhi has to be scoring, the nuggets were doubling him all game to force it others and even still he bullied his way to find ways to score or contribute with rebounds etc..


Talk about LeBron? Kawhi looks like how LeBron did on that Lakers team where they didn't make the playoffs and NO ONE else was doing anything. The difference is Kawhi played till the final bell where LeBron flat out gave up halfway through the season. Thank you for mentioning that, you're proving exactly what I've been saying.

He gets doubled cause the opponents see that he's going into his ISO routine and forcing tough shots too much. Move the ball around and in most cases he'll get it right back for a easier shot. He didn't end the game well tonight imo- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm on several message boards and I'm constantly defending Kawhi damn near 24/7. They rip him and PG to death. Matter of fact Kawhi is getting ripped to shreds on other Clipper boards tonight. I'm pro Clippers day in and day out. The **** I say on here most times I don't even say on other places, not even in the General Board here on RealGM. So don't think I'm anti-Kawhi if I say something about him. You act like someone dissed a family member of yours if they say something about what Kawhi did and didn't do. Chill man

[RingColluder]

So what, close one of these f*cking games out if we're within three points or less! He's the Batman, alpha, and face of the team. Of course its not going to happen every game but bring us the f*ck home once in a while. 24 points isn't carrying a team. Damn near all big stars pull out wins like tonight. Bron, Lillard, Luka, Curry would've put at least one of those games away even with their sidekick playing like sh*t if they're within five or less points. Come on man, don't be a blind d**k rider

He is all those things. Look at HOW Kawhi has to be scoring, the nuggets were doubling him all game to force it others and even still he bullied his way to find ways to score or contribute with rebounds etc..


Talk about LeBron? Kawhi looks like how LeBron did on that Lakers team where they didn't make the playoffs and NO ONE else was doing anything. The difference is Kawhi played till the final bell where LeBron flat out gave up halfway through the season. Thank you for mentioning that, you're proving exactly what I've been saying.

He gets doubled cause the opponents see that he's going into his ISO routine and forcing tough shots too much. Move the ball around and in most cases he'll get it right back for a easier shot. He didn't end the game well tonight imo- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm on several message boards and I'm constantly defending Kawhi damn near 24/7. They rip him and PG to death. Matter of fact Kawhi is getting ripped to shreds on other Clipper boards tonight. I'm pro Clippers day in and day out. The **** I say on here most times I don't even say on other places, not even in the General Board here on RealGM. So don't think I'm anti-Kawhi if I say something about him. You act like someone dissed a family member of yours if they say something about what Kawhi did and didn't do. Chill man

He gets doubled because he is the only legitimate offensive threat on the team. He didn't end the game well tonight, but it's because he was exhausted.

Bro you're the one who went at me, this game was on Paul George. Without Kawhi bringing the team back in the mid 4th we lose this game by 10-12 with 4 minutes to go.

What other clipper message boards are there? The one's like reddit that want Luke Kennard to get 35 minutes and think Paul George is the true superstar. What I've seen on most boards is Kawhi isn't getting ANY blame and everyone is **** on Paul George.

And btw, I see people like on Mavs board and.. I think the Bucks board who were bashing Giannis and Luka for "bad" games and I totally disagree with them. The team around them is not good enough for the games they get "blamed" in.

As I said, LeBron did even worse with that initial Lakers team and GAVE UP. Kawhi does not and nearly saved them.



This game is ALL on Paul George.

[Clemenza]

He is all those things. Look at HOW Kawhi has to be scoring, the nuggets were doubling him all game to force it others and even still he bullied his way to find ways to score or contribute with rebounds etc..


Talk about LeBron? Kawhi looks like how LeBron did on that Lakers team where they didn't make the playoffs and NO ONE else was doing anything. The difference is Kawhi played till the final bell where LeBron flat out gave up halfway through the season. Thank you for mentioning that, you're proving exactly what I've been saying.

He gets doubled cause the opponents see that he's going into his ISO routine and forcing tough shots too much. Move the ball around and in most cases he'll get it right back for a easier shot. He didn't end the game well tonight imo- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm on several message boards and I'm constantly defending Kawhi damn near 24/7. They rip him and PG to death. Matter of fact Kawhi is getting ripped to shreds on other Clipper boards tonight. I'm pro Clippers day in and day out. The **** I say on here most times I don't even say on other places, not even in the General Board here on RealGM. So don't think I'm anti-Kawhi if I say something about him. You act like someone dissed a family member of yours if they say something about what Kawhi did and didn't do. Chill man

He gets doubled because he is the only legitimate offensive threat on the team. He didn't end the game well tonight, but it's because he was exhausted.

Bro you're the one who went at me, this game was on Paul George. Without Kawhi bringing the team back in the mid 4th we lose this game by 10-12 with 4 minutes to go.

What other clipper message boards are there? The one's like reddit that want Luke Kennard to get 35 minutes and think Paul George is the true superstar. What I've seen on most boards is Kawhi isn't getting ANY blame and everyone is **** on Paul George.

And btw, I see people like on Mavs board and.. I think the Bucks board who were bashing Giannis and Luka for "bad" games and I totally disagree with them. The team around them is not good enough for the games they get "blamed" in.

As I said, LeBron did even worse with that initial Lakers team and GAVE UP. Kawhi does not and nearly saved them.



This game is ALL on Paul George.

Thank you, I'm just trying to see you admit to something on Kawhi for once. And yes PG was sh*t in most of this game. He shouldn't have played tbh. But the game can't be ALL on him when the usual suspects won't suit up to play and stay in street clothes. So they get a pass? You give out a lot of passes that's for sure. I bet you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is curse PG and at night say a prayer before bed hoping that he gets traded in the morning. Zu is ballin' so I guess we're safe from the Trez talk tonight until Zu has an off night. Too agenda heavy.

Also we have to realize the dynamic is that PG and Kawhi pretty much play the same position.. of course Kawhi is the better of the two but normally you try to have a star guard and the other star is a totally different position to balance things out. Celtic fans and media are now questioning the Tatum/Brown duo which is kind of mirroring ours. Two guys- same position- same skill set.. both taking turns every time on offense. The Blazers with Lillard/CJ, Simmons/Embiid, etc. Tough to do but you want the Kobe/Shaq, Jokic/Murray, Westbrook/Durant, type offsetting dynamic. Hopefully Rondo can bring some balance

[TheNewEra]

Internet doing George dirty

[RingColluder]

He gets doubled cause the opponents see that he's going into his ISO routine and forcing tough shots too much. Move the ball around and in most cases he'll get it right back for a easier shot. He didn't end the game well tonight imo- we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm on several message boards and I'm constantly defending Kawhi damn near 24/7. They rip him and PG to death. Matter of fact Kawhi is getting ripped to shreds on other Clipper boards tonight. I'm pro Clippers day in and day out. The **** I say on here most times I don't even say on other places, not even in the General Board here on RealGM. So don't think I'm anti-Kawhi if I say something about him. You act like someone dissed a family member of yours if they say something about what Kawhi did and didn't do. Chill man

He gets doubled because he is the only legitimate offensive threat on the team. He didn't end the game well tonight, but it's because he was exhausted.

Bro you're the one who went at me, this game was on Paul George. Without Kawhi bringing the team back in the mid 4th we lose this game by 10-12 with 4 minutes to go.

What other clipper message boards are there? The one's like reddit that want Luke Kennard to get 35 minutes and think Paul George is the true superstar. What I've seen on most boards is Kawhi isn't getting ANY blame and everyone is **** on Paul George.

And btw, I see people like on Mavs board and.. I think the Bucks board who were bashing Giannis and Luka for "bad" games and I totally disagree with them. The team around them is not good enough for the games they get "blamed" in.

As I said, LeBron did even worse with that initial Lakers team and GAVE UP. Kawhi does not and nearly saved them.



This game is ALL on Paul George.

Thank you, I'm just trying to see you admit to something on Kawhi for once. And yes PG was sh*t in most of this game. He shouldn't have played tbh. But the game can't be ALL on him when the usual suspects won't suit up to play and stay in street clothes. So they get a pass? You give out a lot of passes that's for sure. I bet you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is curse PG and at night say a prayer before bed hoping that he gets traded in the morning. Zu is ballin' so I guess we're safe from the Trez talk tonight until Zu has an off night. Too agenda heavy.

Also we have to realize the dynamic is that PG and Kawhi pretty much play the same position.. of course Kawhi is the better of the two but normally you try to have a star guard and the other star is a totally different position to balance things out. Celtic fans and media are now questioning the Tatum/Brown duo which is kind of mirroring ours. Two guys- same position- same skill set.. both taking turns every time on offense. The Blazers with Lillard/CJ, Simmons/Embiid, etc. Tough to do but you want the Kobe/Shaq, Jokic/Murray, Westbrook/Durant, type offsetting dynamic. Hopefully Rondo can bring some balance

Can you stop being weird, I just want to have a championship team. I've multiple times given credit to Zu AND in the game where PG went like 10-30 and people were bashing him online I gave him his due and admired he toughed it out based on the circumstance.

When PG is making max money I'm not going to blame Rajon Rondo for not playing, even. Bev. He is washed it is what it is. Did you watch Kawhi in the Raptors playoff run? This is the type of player he is, I think your expectations of what his game is ar ertotally different than who he is as an actual player.


And the fit is awful with both PG and Kawhi I agree. That's why PG needs to sacrifice and do the Marcus Morris role of today. Play defense and sit in a corner shooting 3's. That's it. He is not a PG, he is not the best 2nd offensive option on this team.

Please stop with the constant insults. You seem to be open to discussion but your attitude sucks. Just calling it out since most people here can manage to debate without acting like an ****.

[Clemenza]

He gets doubled because he is the only legitimate offensive threat on the team. He didn't end the game well tonight, but it's because he was exhausted.

Bro you're the one who went at me, this game was on Paul George. Without Kawhi bringing the team back in the mid 4th we lose this game by 10-12 with 4 minutes to go.

What other clipper message boards are there? The one's like reddit that want Luke Kennard to get 35 minutes and think Paul George is the true superstar. What I've seen on most boards is Kawhi isn't getting ANY blame and everyone is **** on Paul George.

And btw, I see people like on Mavs board and.. I think the Bucks board who were bashing Giannis and Luka for "bad" games and I totally disagree with them. The team around them is not good enough for the games they get "blamed" in.

As I said, LeBron did even worse with that initial Lakers team and GAVE UP. Kawhi does not and nearly saved them.



This game is ALL on Paul George.

Thank you, I'm just trying to see you admit to something on Kawhi for once. And yes PG was sh*t in most of this game. He shouldn't have played tbh. But the game can't be ALL on him when the usual suspects won't suit up to play and stay in street clothes. So they get a pass? You give out a lot of passes that's for sure. I bet you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is curse PG and at night say a prayer before bed hoping that he gets traded in the morning. Zu is ballin' so I guess we're safe from the Trez talk tonight until Zu has an off night. Too agenda heavy.

Also we have to realize the dynamic is that PG and Kawhi pretty much play the same position.. of course Kawhi is the better of the two but normally you try to have a star guard and the other star is a totally different position to balance things out. Celtic fans and media are now questioning the Tatum/Brown duo which is kind of mirroring ours. Two guys- same position- same skill set.. both taking turns every time on offense. The Blazers with Lillard/CJ, Simmons/Embiid, etc. Tough to do but you want the Kobe/Shaq, Jokic/Murray, Westbrook/Durant, type offsetting dynamic. Hopefully Rondo can bring some balance

Can you stop being weird, I just want to have a championship team. I've multiple times given credit to Zu AND in the game where PG went like 10-30 and people were bashing him online I gave him his due and admired he toughed it out based on the circumstance.

When PG is making max money I'm not going to blame Rajon Rondo for not playing, even. Bev. He is washed it is what it is. Did you watch Kawhi in the Raptors playoff run? This is the type of player he is, I think your expectations of what his game is ar ertotally different than who he is as an actual player.


And the fit is awful with both PG and Kawhi I agree. That's why PG needs to sacrifice and do the Marcus Morris role of today. Play defense and sit in a corner shooting 3's. That's it. He is not a PG, he is not the best 2nd offensive option on this team.

Please stop with the constant insults. You seem to be open to discussion but your attitude sucks. Just calling it out since most people here can manage to debate without acting like an ****.

I'll chill with the insults and of course I watched the Raptors run. It was great but it really helped them out when Durant was injured. And really it has nothing to do with the Clippers. I realize its do or die this year but still have to call out something if I or you see fit. I was just calling out that Kawhi had a bad finish tonight and you take it personally. And its weird that you pull out a PG diss -which I do get when he has a bad game- but 99% of your posts, no matter the thread or subject, is pretty much a PG diss outright or will somehow end in one by the last sentence. Trust me I get it -I think we all get it- he frustrates and puzzles me just as much as the next guy but you're so extreme and out of control with it. Why is this?

[Clemenza]

Internet doing George dirty

That clip of him blowing that layup is trending on twitter. Why does he do this to himself and the team. Hurt toe or not that's still a soft dunk with minimum effort

[baldur]

do you think you'll get more wins than the suns? I would like to hear some insight as I bet on clippers to win the division. You don't need to feel responsible as I already bet. Phoenix got a tough schedule but clippers don't look consistent either. so....