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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#941 » by Akklaim1 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:51 pm

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og15 wrote:Though they haven't been able to use Mbah due to his injury, even Gordon while no great defender can play much bigger and defend better when putting his all than Redick is capable of due to physical limitations. The Clippers could never defend like this consistently. 15-16 was the closest, but they would still have had matchup / size issues, the Rockets defense has been a treat to watch.



I think our 2014 team was better than the 2015 team. I'd say our chances at the chip were taken away in 2014. We had a better chance at beating the Spurs in 2014 than beating the Warriors in 2015. So the chokejob against OKC hurt more than the one the next year against Houston IMO.
The matchup was better against the Spurs even if they were rolling that post-season, the Warriors matchup was definitely iffy, especially since it would be an already fatigued team with poor depth in that WCF, don't think we win that by any means. With how mentally and physically fatigued Blake and Redick reported themselves to be at the end of the Houston series, I just don't know how they now beat a team where the matchups just aren't great.

The OKC series sucked, though a game 5 win guaranteed nothing except for a better chance. Just like we beat the Spurs in game 6 and 7, considering OKC ended up still winning game 6 on the road, it isn't that unlikely that they could have still won down 3-2. I don't think we win game 6 if we win game 5, which means it comes down to a game 7 on the road and those are historically very difficult. I know some would argue that the game 5 loss demoralized them, but I don't but it when the Clippers were up 8 at half, lost by just 6 and it was the 2nd half thst did them in. They game out gunning with that 30-16 first quarter, that's not a demoralized team.



The Clippers were always tired going into the 2nd round. We never had an easy first round matchup despite winning 50+ games every time. In the years we won the first round, they were all pushed to 7 games against fellow 50+ game winners. Winning 57 and 56 games would usually be good enough to get you matched up with a sub-50 win lower seeded team and be heavily favored to win in 5 games . Unfortunately, our absolute best years had to clash with teams that were a tad better.
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#942 » by og15 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:02 pm

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I think our 2014 team was better than the 2015 team. I'd say our chances at the chip were taken away in 2014. We had a better chance at beating the Spurs in 2014 than beating the Warriors in 2015. So the chokejob against OKC hurt more than the one the next year against Houston IMO.
The matchup was better against the Spurs even if they were rolling that post-season, the Warriors matchup was definitely iffy, especially since it would be an already fatigued team with poor depth in that WCF, don't think we win that by any means. With how mentally and physically fatigued Blake and Redick reported themselves to be at the end of the Houston series, I just don't know how they now beat a team where the matchups just aren't great.

The OKC series sucked, though a game 5 win guaranteed nothing except for a better chance. Just like we beat the Spurs in game 6 and 7, considering OKC ended up still winning game 6 on the road, it isn't that unlikely that they could have still won down 3-2. I don't think we win game 6 if we win game 5, which means it comes down to a game 7 on the road and those are historically very difficult. I know some would argue that the game 5 loss demoralized them, but I don't but it when the Clippers were up 8 at half, lost by just 6 and it was the 2nd half thst did them in. They game out gunning with that 30-16 first quarter, that's not a demoralized team.



The Clippers were always tired going into the 2nd round. We never had an easy first round matchup despite winning 50+ games every time. In the years we won the first round, they were all pushed to 7 games against fellow 50+ game winners. Winning 57 and 56 games would usually be good enough to get you matched up with a sub-50 win lower seeded team and be heavily favored to win in 5 games . Unfortunately, our absolute best years had to clash with teams that were a tad better.

Yup, this is one of the difficult things about the WC. In the East, in previous seasons, 57 games usually gets you a low 40's first round opponent and a mid 40's second round opponent, so getting the the ECF is generally not as difficult if you win 55-57 games. The Clippers floating around 3-5th seed were not getting any slouches in the first round. SA was basically a championship level opponent in the first round. This is also why despite many people dismissing the regular season, regulars season record is actually very important, and the Clippers regular season injuries also didn't help.

14-15 was tough though because the Clippers lost the 2nd seed due to division tie breaker, which kind of sucks. 2nd seed would have given the Clippers Dallas in round 1, which would be a 4-5 game series win, probably not Paul injury, then 2nd round would one of SA or Houston coming off a 6-7 games series, both teams the Clippers showed they can match up well with when not fatigued. Regular season gets underrated by a lot of people because they just think, "well if you are better you will win in the playoffs", but the reality is that when the matchups become more even, and the series' become tighter, every little factors starts to matter. Being a little less fatigued, a little less banged up, etc.
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#943 » by Quake Griffin » Sun May 27, 2018 1:31 am

If there are basketball gods out there...

Please let this continue.
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Post#944 » by Quake Griffin » Sun May 27, 2018 4:48 am

Woj saying a CP3 return for Game 7 is less likely than likely.

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Post#945 » by esqtvd » Sun May 27, 2018 7:14 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:Woj saying a CP3 return for Game 7 is less likely than likely.

SMFH.
It's over.


between him and Blake it was never going to work here either :nonono:
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#946 » by og15 » Mon May 28, 2018 2:15 am

Our boy Jeff Green out there trying to help a team get to the finals :lol:
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Post#947 » by Quake Griffin » Mon May 28, 2018 3:03 am

LeGOAT LeGOATing as usual.

Hopefully the basketball gods won't let the Cheat Code in the Bay Area artificially block him from his destiny because a 7 foot superstar made the most cowardly FA decision ever.
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Post#948 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Mon May 28, 2018 3:27 am

8th straight finals appearance for LeBron James. I wasn't sure if he was going to make it this season. Who knows if he can make back next season. Celtcs and 6ers will be better and there isn't a guarantee that LeBron will be back with Cleveland next season.
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Post#949 » by nickhx2 » Mon May 28, 2018 3:52 am

goat? more like god
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#950 » by mkwest » Mon May 28, 2018 5:47 am

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Post#951 » by QRich3 » Mon May 28, 2018 8:25 am

og15 wrote:Our boy Jeff Green out there trying to help a team get to the finals :lol:

MF managed to squeeze one of his 3 good games a season in game 7 of the conference finals, probably enough to get another undeserved NBA contract. I wonder who's gonna be fooled next.

Lebron is a very impressive basketball player, what he is doing is just amazing.
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Post#952 » by esqtvd » Mon May 28, 2018 10:28 am

QRich3 wrote:
og15 wrote:Our boy Jeff Green out there trying to help a team get to the finals :lol:

MF managed to squeeze one of his 3 good games a season in game 7 of the conference finals, probably enough to get another undeserved NBA contract. I wonder who's gonna be fooled next.

Lebron is a very impressive basketball player, what he is doing is just amazing.



Agree abt LeBon. Career not finished yet. Could go to Philly and win 2 more rings. The man is astonishing.


Jeff Green is making my apologia for The Trade look good. He isn't ****. He's a playoff player. Not a great or even good one, but trading Lance and a late pick, adding him to our playoff rotation was a reasonable move. 19 pts in the conference final tonight, 2nd leading scorer on his team behind LeBron.

He came through bigtime.
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#953 » by og15 » Mon May 28, 2018 10:57 am

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og15 wrote:Our boy Jeff Green out there trying to help a team get to the finals :lol:

MF managed to squeeze one of his 3 good games a season in game 7 of the conference finals, probably enough to get another undeserved NBA contract. I wonder who's gonna be fooled next.

Lebron is a very impressive basketball player, what he is doing is just amazing.



Agree abt LeBon. Career not finished yet. Could go to Philly and win 2 more rings. The man is astonishing.


Jeff Green is making my apologia for The Trade look good. He isn't ****. He's a playoff player. Not a great or even good one, but trading Lance and a late pick, adding him to our playoff rotation was a reasonable move. 19 pts in the conference final tonight, 2nd leading scorer on his team behind LeBron.

He came through bigtime.
Haha you've already been fooled, don't be a GM. I'm cringing at "he's a playoff player".
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Post#954 » by esqtvd » Mon May 28, 2018 12:12 pm

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QRich3 wrote:MF managed to squeeze one of his 3 good games a season in game 7 of the conference finals, probably enough to get another undeserved NBA contract. I wonder who's gonna be fooled next.

Lebron is a very impressive basketball player, what he is doing is just amazing.



Agree abt LeBon. Career not finished yet. Could go to Philly and win 2 more rings. The man is astonishing.


Jeff Green is making my apologia for The Trade look good. He isn't ****. He's a playoff player. Not a great or even good one, but trading Lance and a late pick, adding him to our playoff rotation was a reasonable move. 19 pts in the conference final tonight, 2nd leading scorer on his team behind LeBron.

He came through bigtime.
Haha you've already been fooled, don't be a GM. I'm cringing at "he's a playoff player".


Try to contain your laughter, bro, put it in perspective and please don't join the douchebag brigade: We had only Luc as a true SF. The rest of the SF minutes would have had to go to Jamal or Austin. Or 6'5" headcase Lance Stephenson, who had already acted out twice. Trading for 6'9" Jeff Green was quite a reasonable move and with 19 points in the conference final, he proved that he wasn't garbage tonight. That's a playoff player. Not a great one, but we weren't asking for much.
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Post#955 » by Quake Griffin » Mon May 28, 2018 3:07 pm

lol.
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Take a gander at Ralph Lawler’s facebook.

Called LeBron James the GOAT.
Then doubled down on it 25 minutes later.

LOL. Got a few people upset.


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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#956 » by og15 » Mon May 28, 2018 4:23 pm

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Agree abt LeBon. Career not finished yet. Could go to Philly and win 2 more rings. The man is astonishing.


Jeff Green is making my apologia for The Trade look good. He isn't ****. He's a playoff player. Not a great or even good one, but trading Lance and a late pick, adding him to our playoff rotation was a reasonable move. 19 pts in the conference final tonight, 2nd leading scorer on his team behind LeBron.

He came through bigtime.
Haha you've already been fooled, don't be a GM. I'm cringing at "he's a playoff player".


Try to contain your laughter, bro, put it in perspective and please don't join the douchebag brigade: We had only Luc as a true SF. The rest of the SF minutes would have had to go to Jamal or Austin. Or 6'5" headcase Lance Stephenson, who had already acted out twice. Trading for 6'9" Jeff Green was quite a reasonable move and with 19 points in the conference final, he proved that he wasn't garbage tonight. That's a playoff player. Not a great one, but we weren't asking for much.
You're basically being MTV right now, just in the other direction. Everything doesn't need to become some defense of Doc and his GM moves. I don't care at all about debating that move, but labeling Jeff Green a playoff player is funny no matter how we slice it. He can be a sometimes playoff player at best, go check out his 14-15 playoffs performance, lol

Btw, Game 1-5 of the series: 22.4 mpg, 5.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.2 spg, 1.8 tpg, 42.9% FG, 22.2% 3PT

From your comments before, that kind of player is not even an NBAer, actually that production is even worse than guys you say aren't NBAera (remember Joe Ingles his first two seasons) but I guess we judge players on their most recent performances, not on their whole body of work, so Jeff Green is a playoff performer if that is how it works :lol:
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Post#957 » by esqtvd » Mon May 28, 2018 8:10 pm

og15 wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
og15 wrote:Haha you've already been fooled, don't be a GM. I'm cringing at "he's a playoff player".


Try to contain your laughter, bro, put it in perspective and please don't join the douchebag brigade: We had only Luc as a true SF. The rest of the SF minutes would have had to go to Jamal or Austin. Or 6'5" headcase Lance Stephenson, who had already acted out twice. Trading for 6'9" Jeff Green was quite a reasonable move and with 19 points in the conference final, he proved that he wasn't garbage tonight. That's a playoff player. Not a great one, but we weren't asking for much.
You're basically being MTV right now, just in the other direction. Everything doesn't need to become some defense of Doc and his GM moves. I don't care at all about debating that move, but labeling Jeff Green a playoff player is funny no matter how we slice it. He can be a sometimes playoff player at best, go check out his 14-15 playoffs performance, lol

Btw, Game 1-5 of the series: 22.4 mpg, 5.6 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg, 0.2 spg, 1.8 tpg, 42.9% FG, 22.2% 3PT

From your comments before, that kind of player is not even an NBAer, actually that production is even worse than guys you say aren't NBAera (remember Joe Ingles his first two seasons) but I guess we judge players on their most recent performances, not on their whole body of work, so Jeff Green is a playoff performer if that is how it works :lol:


Again, Jamal or Austin would have to play those SF minutes. And Boston has a GREAT defense. Jeff Green total playoffs this year--8.3 ppg on 44%/32% shooting. Not all-world by any means but the main point is that he brings length where we had none, and we also got to dump Lance, who was a dog. Since the pick was lottery protected, it may only end up costing us a measly 2nd-rounder. Geez. It's just not half the big deal some people make of it. It was worth a shot in our rapidly-closing CP-BG window. Doing nothing would have been the real crime.

And no, I'm not MTV, LOL. I have actual facts and arguments. I just don't say people suck [or are good]. I'm not even saying Jeff Green is good, only that the playoff minutes he's once again getting say he's better than nothing.

Let me go on record--JEFF GREEN IS BETTER THAN NOTHING. That's all. :D
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#958 » by TucsonClip » Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 pm

Can we please, for once, kill all Jeff Green talk? He isn't worth the time spent typing anything about him. Yet its always the same stuff...
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Post#959 » by esqtvd » Mon May 28, 2018 11:11 pm

actually it's new same stuff, LOL
he's the 6th man on a conference champion

yes, Cleveland's desperate
but so were we

notice how nobody's stepped up to say they'd rather Jamal or Austin had got those minutes at SF :razz:
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Re: Around the NBA II 

Post#960 » by Quake Griffin » Tue May 29, 2018 12:55 am

Smfh.

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