Things the Clippers Have to do This Summer
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Things the Clippers Have to do This Summer
1. Re-sign Deandre. If you don't Griffin is likely gone. And if they don't re-sign him they need to go after someone like Nene or Tyson.
2. Get a starting SF. Prince or Iggy would fit this bill.
3. Get a distributor unless you want to fire Del Negro and have Rambis run the triangle offense. This is also imperative. This is why Iggy would be ideal because he can play the SF position (though I would put him at SG) and distribute the ball.
Optional
1. Get another lockdown defender to put next to Gordon (see Iggy)
2. Get a junkyard dog to spell Griffin (ala Turiaf or Ibaka).
The plan as mentioned before would be something like
S&T Kaman+AFA for Iggy.
Re-sign Deandre for 5 yrs 35 mil (40 max). Also get a capable backup C (Kwame).
Sign a SF who can start (Prince,Battier, Diaw).
Get junkyard dog. Glen Davis or Chuck Hayes would be ideal but too expensive probably. Probably re-sign Rhino.
Lineup
PG: Gordon/Bledsoe
SG: Iggy/Mo Williams/Foye
SF: Prince/Gomes/Moon
PF: Griffin/Landry/Rhino
C: DeAndre/Kwame
That's a team that is 1-2 years away from a championship.
PF: Griffin/Rhino
2. Get a starting SF. Prince or Iggy would fit this bill.
3. Get a distributor unless you want to fire Del Negro and have Rambis run the triangle offense. This is also imperative. This is why Iggy would be ideal because he can play the SF position (though I would put him at SG) and distribute the ball.
Optional
1. Get another lockdown defender to put next to Gordon (see Iggy)
2. Get a junkyard dog to spell Griffin (ala Turiaf or Ibaka).
The plan as mentioned before would be something like
S&T Kaman+AFA for Iggy.
Re-sign Deandre for 5 yrs 35 mil (40 max). Also get a capable backup C (Kwame).
Sign a SF who can start (Prince,Battier, Diaw).
Get junkyard dog. Glen Davis or Chuck Hayes would be ideal but too expensive probably. Probably re-sign Rhino.
Lineup
PG: Gordon/Bledsoe
SG: Iggy/Mo Williams/Foye
SF: Prince/Gomes/Moon
PF: Griffin/Landry/Rhino
C: DeAndre/Kwame
That's a team that is 1-2 years away from a championship.
PF: Griffin/Rhino
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nmumber 1 on that list should be; get rid of Sterling
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Gomes and Moon should not be on this team next season. However, Rhino should be and locking up DJ is imperative.
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mj_shoefanatic wrote:Gomes and Moon should not be on this team next season. However, Rhino should be and locking up DJ is imperative.
I think for the min. Moon is not a bad third string player. Gomes is terrible though. Foye is worth about what he is getting paid.
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Have to find a team to dump Gomes on.
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donemilio21 wrote:nmumber 1 on that list should be; get rid of Sterling
That's pretty much the biggest thing. I'm seriously keeping low expectations of this franchise until this man is completely gone.
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I kind of like Moon. I could see him back on the team for the right price (cheap). Rhino is a player that I could see returning also. He's not expensive and I'm pretty certain that he loves playing in his home town.
DJ needs to be re-signed. What I don't like about his situation is that it is hard to estimate what he's going to command. An MLE-level deal would be fair for all parties involved. He would surely get at least that on the market. The problem is that he is an athletic big with strong defensive potential that is only 22 years old. That adds a premium and some team could look to overpay him. The changes in the CBA also present an unknown as to what others can offer. Playing with Blake is a big part of the reason that he's developing that way that he is. DJ is capable, but I really think that it would be best for his own game that he sticks with Blake.
We need to extend EJ as well. We would be in a position during the summer of 2012 if we didn't have to be concerned with re-signing/matching EJ. Next summer, we're going to have to deal with Kaman becoming a free-agent, extending Blake and possibly going after a big time talent. Having one less task to be concerned about would be best. Also, extending EJ this summer may be cheaper than re-signing him next summer. He's no longer a secret in this league and a lot of eyes have been opened. If he keeps improving his price tag will become more expensive as well.
I like the idea of trading for Iggy, but I don't see Philly doing it unless they get an amazing deal. They finally have their team working and there's not much incentive for them to dump him at this point.
I think that signing Prince would be a decent move. He's not going to re-sign with Detroit. He's from here and would have a starting spot waiting for him. We could then use Kaman, Foye, Cook (all expirings) as trade bait at some point between this summer (or whenever the lockout ends) and the trading deadline.
DJ needs to be re-signed. What I don't like about his situation is that it is hard to estimate what he's going to command. An MLE-level deal would be fair for all parties involved. He would surely get at least that on the market. The problem is that he is an athletic big with strong defensive potential that is only 22 years old. That adds a premium and some team could look to overpay him. The changes in the CBA also present an unknown as to what others can offer. Playing with Blake is a big part of the reason that he's developing that way that he is. DJ is capable, but I really think that it would be best for his own game that he sticks with Blake.
We need to extend EJ as well. We would be in a position during the summer of 2012 if we didn't have to be concerned with re-signing/matching EJ. Next summer, we're going to have to deal with Kaman becoming a free-agent, extending Blake and possibly going after a big time talent. Having one less task to be concerned about would be best. Also, extending EJ this summer may be cheaper than re-signing him next summer. He's no longer a secret in this league and a lot of eyes have been opened. If he keeps improving his price tag will become more expensive as well.
I like the idea of trading for Iggy, but I don't see Philly doing it unless they get an amazing deal. They finally have their team working and there's not much incentive for them to dump him at this point.
I think that signing Prince would be a decent move. He's not going to re-sign with Detroit. He's from here and would have a starting spot waiting for him. We could then use Kaman, Foye, Cook (all expirings) as trade bait at some point between this summer (or whenever the lockout ends) and the trading deadline.
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1. Resign DJ
2. Go after Wilson Chandler hard!!!
3. Trade Aminu for a 1st round pick. Aminu is the next Al Thornton. He hasn't shown me anything to think otherwise. Actually, Al was pretty good in his rookie year. With this pick, select another SF that has a high bball IQ, can shoot, and defend. Tyler Honeycutt from UCLA would be my choice.
4. Keep Kaman. DJ is too inconsistent and who knows, someone may throw a lot of money at DJ and we can't match.
5. Build bench. Sign Kmart to backup Blake and be an enforcer. Sign JR Smith to be instant offense and EG's backup if and when he goes down. I love EG but he seems to always get hurt.
Hope the NBA gives us an easy schedule to start the season so we avoid a 1-13 start!
2. Go after Wilson Chandler hard!!!
3. Trade Aminu for a 1st round pick. Aminu is the next Al Thornton. He hasn't shown me anything to think otherwise. Actually, Al was pretty good in his rookie year. With this pick, select another SF that has a high bball IQ, can shoot, and defend. Tyler Honeycutt from UCLA would be my choice.
4. Keep Kaman. DJ is too inconsistent and who knows, someone may throw a lot of money at DJ and we can't match.
5. Build bench. Sign Kmart to backup Blake and be an enforcer. Sign JR Smith to be instant offense and EG's backup if and when he goes down. I love EG but he seems to always get hurt.
Hope the NBA gives us an easy schedule to start the season so we avoid a 1-13 start!
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1. Draft day- Try to acquire a small forward via trade. I like this possible three way trade scenario between involving Indiana and Atlanta:
Clippers get: Granger, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia
Pacers get: Josh Smith
Hawks get: Kaman, Aminu, Gomes, Clippers 2nd round pick (35-38)
-Clippers end up with A starting line up that includes three excellent three point shooters. Granger, Williams and EJ are all 38-42% three point shooters. That is a perfect mix to go with Blake and DJ on the inside. Which one of these guys do you leave open? I know Marvin Williams is a tough pill to swallow, his contract is 3.5 million per year more then Gomes and one year longer. But Atlanta would probably want some kind of added incentive for giving up Josh Smith, besides Kaman, Aminu and the pick.
Clippers get: Granger, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia
Pacers get: Josh Smith
Hawks get: Kaman, Aminu, Gomes, Clippers 2nd round pick (35-38)
-Clippers end up with A starting line up that includes three excellent three point shooters. Granger, Williams and EJ are all 38-42% three point shooters. That is a perfect mix to go with Blake and DJ on the inside. Which one of these guys do you leave open? I know Marvin Williams is a tough pill to swallow, his contract is 3.5 million per year more then Gomes and one year longer. But Atlanta would probably want some kind of added incentive for giving up Josh Smith, besides Kaman, Aminu and the pick.
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2. Draft best player available with the lower 2nd round pick.
3. Re-sign DJ. Idk what he will cost. I'm thinking maybe 4 years/ 32 million. Thr reality is he's a NBA center and friends with Blake, so Clipps might have to over pay for the guy.
4. Idk if Clipps want to roll with a bench if Foye, Bledsoe, Pachulia, Williams, Cook and Warren. I think they will bring back Diogu for the vet minimum, but maybe they could shop Bledsoe for a shooter off the bench. Foye could be used as the back up point guard.
3. Re-sign DJ. Idk what he will cost. I'm thinking maybe 4 years/ 32 million. Thr reality is he's a NBA center and friends with Blake, so Clipps might have to over pay for the guy.
4. Idk if Clipps want to roll with a bench if Foye, Bledsoe, Pachulia, Williams, Cook and Warren. I think they will bring back Diogu for the vet minimum, but maybe they could shop Bledsoe for a shooter off the bench. Foye could be used as the back up point guard.
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By the trade deadline, Granger could potentially be flipped to New Jersey along with Mo Williams for Deron Williams and Anthony Morrow. Maybe the Twolves pick and one of the Nets picks might be involved. Right away, Williams would add 18-20 points, 10-12 assists and make everyone elses numbers go up. Blake would probably then become a 25 ppg scorer and EJ might go up to 27 ppg. That being said, if there is an extend and trade done, I would include the TWolves pick in such a deal. Morrow would be a little under sized at small forward, but you could put my grandma at small forward along side DWill, Blake and EJ.
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Clip34life wrote:mj_shoefanatic wrote:Gomes and Moon should not be on this team next season. However, Rhino should be and locking up DJ is imperative.
I think for the min. Moon is not a bad third string player. Gomes is terrible though. Foye is worth about what he is getting paid.
I take back what I said about Moon. He kind of reminds me of James Singleton. Foye should be moved for a taller SG like Anthony Morrow or Reggie Williams.
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I like a tall SG to backup EG that's why I like JR Smith. Reggie Williams and Morrow are nice too.
Remember the game vs the Kings where Marcus Thornton abused Foye and whoever else we put on him? Or how about the Suns game on Sunday when even Grant Hill and VC were posting up EG and Foye?
That's why I thought Baron was better than Mo. He was a bigger, more physical PG that can guard SGs on the post. Also, Baron is a much better passer. If only Baron didn't make so much money or if he was motivated. Damn.
We need to load up this summer for a playoff run. This is the only way we can negate Sterling's evilness. WINNING fixes everything.
If it means trading Aminu and Minny's pick to get a legit SF, then we have to do it!
Remember the game vs the Kings where Marcus Thornton abused Foye and whoever else we put on him? Or how about the Suns game on Sunday when even Grant Hill and VC were posting up EG and Foye?
That's why I thought Baron was better than Mo. He was a bigger, more physical PG that can guard SGs on the post. Also, Baron is a much better passer. If only Baron didn't make so much money or if he was motivated. Damn.
We need to load up this summer for a playoff run. This is the only way we can negate Sterling's evilness. WINNING fixes everything.
If it means trading Aminu and Minny's pick to get a legit SF, then we have to do it!
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I think in order we need
1) A starting SF.
Prince/Butler/Battier/Diaw/Chandler (restricted)
Of these I think Prince is the best and the most gettable. 5 yrs/30 mil should do it.
2) A backup C to DeAndre
Kwame/Nazr/Krstic/Jeff Foster
I think the Clips come up empty here because there are few available prospects and more demand and the Clippers are not a premiere destination. Probably end up signing a scrub. Of course they could get someone good in return for Kaman.
3) A back up SG to Gordon
Barbosa/Pietrus/Azuibuke/Roger Mason/Belinelli/Vujacic/Marquis Daniels/Afflalo (restricted)/CDR (restricted)
Again I doubt the Clips invest too much in this. They will probably try and develop Willie Warren. Still, I think Marquis, Vujacic, Azuibuke, and Mason are very gettable. Of course the dream would be Afflalo but he would be too costly. I could see them signing Vujacic here or maybe no one.
4)A backup PF to Griffin
Landry/Hayes/Admunson/Murphy/Humphries/Gadzuric/K Mart/Glen Davis/Mbah a Moute (restricted)
Here is where the Clips will look to sign someone of worth. Humphries is the dream but he's played himself out of our price range. Ditto Glen Davis, Landry, and probably Hayes and Murphy. We could snag Gadzuric or K Mart (though he might want to go ring shopping).
5) A backup SF
Jeffries/Battier/McGrady/Butler/Josh Howard
Again Clips have Gomes and they tend to play it passive instead of active. Battier would be the great get but he'll want more money to go to a non-contender which we don't have to pay. Outside shot at McGrady.
My guess at the lineup is:
C: DeAndre/
PF: Griffin/Gadzuric
SF:Prince/ Gomes
SG: Gordon/ Foye/ Azuibuke
PG: Mo/ Bledsoe/ Warren
Our roster will be filled out with whatever we can get for Kaman and AFA. We may also trade the Minny pick but that depends. If the Clips can get a good starting PG or point forward for Kaman and AFA then that would be ideal. That roster is not appreciably better than the one they have now but it's not too bad. The Clippers need a distributor, a defensive enforcer, and a solid 6th man to take it to the next level. Without those things they are capped at 7th seed at best.
1) A starting SF.
Prince/Butler/Battier/Diaw/Chandler (restricted)
Of these I think Prince is the best and the most gettable. 5 yrs/30 mil should do it.
2) A backup C to DeAndre
Kwame/Nazr/Krstic/Jeff Foster
I think the Clips come up empty here because there are few available prospects and more demand and the Clippers are not a premiere destination. Probably end up signing a scrub. Of course they could get someone good in return for Kaman.
3) A back up SG to Gordon
Barbosa/Pietrus/Azuibuke/Roger Mason/Belinelli/Vujacic/Marquis Daniels/Afflalo (restricted)/CDR (restricted)
Again I doubt the Clips invest too much in this. They will probably try and develop Willie Warren. Still, I think Marquis, Vujacic, Azuibuke, and Mason are very gettable. Of course the dream would be Afflalo but he would be too costly. I could see them signing Vujacic here or maybe no one.
4)A backup PF to Griffin
Landry/Hayes/Admunson/Murphy/Humphries/Gadzuric/K Mart/Glen Davis/Mbah a Moute (restricted)
Here is where the Clips will look to sign someone of worth. Humphries is the dream but he's played himself out of our price range. Ditto Glen Davis, Landry, and probably Hayes and Murphy. We could snag Gadzuric or K Mart (though he might want to go ring shopping).
5) A backup SF
Jeffries/Battier/McGrady/Butler/Josh Howard
Again Clips have Gomes and they tend to play it passive instead of active. Battier would be the great get but he'll want more money to go to a non-contender which we don't have to pay. Outside shot at McGrady.
My guess at the lineup is:
C: DeAndre/
PF: Griffin/Gadzuric
SF:Prince/ Gomes
SG: Gordon/ Foye/ Azuibuke
PG: Mo/ Bledsoe/ Warren
Our roster will be filled out with whatever we can get for Kaman and AFA. We may also trade the Minny pick but that depends. If the Clips can get a good starting PG or point forward for Kaman and AFA then that would be ideal. That roster is not appreciably better than the one they have now but it's not too bad. The Clippers need a distributor, a defensive enforcer, and a solid 6th man to take it to the next level. Without those things they are capped at 7th seed at best.
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TheNewEra wrote:Have to find a team to dump Gomes on.
Only way I can see us dumping Gomes is if a team is banking on Chandler/Green and misses and goes for the gamble, otherwise, I don't see anyone just taking Gomes unless a player on just a bad or worse contract is coming back, like Kleiza, Childress, or Diop.
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clippermitch wrote:1. Resign DJ
2. Go after Wilson Chandler hard!!!
3. Trade Aminu for a 1st round pick. Aminu is the next Al Thornton. He hasn't shown me anything to think otherwise. Actually, Al was pretty good in his rookie year. With this pick, select another SF that has a high bball IQ, can shoot, and defend. Tyler Honeycutt from UCLA would be my choice.
I don't really think the Aminu/Thornton comparison is fair. Aminu is 20 years old in his rookie season, Thornton was 24.
Aminu has shown strides with his shooting and if he can continue to improve it along with his ball handling I think he can be a solid SF.
I would like to Iggy brought in though since I think his ball handling and playmaking skills are much needed.
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Now would be a good time to showcase Willie Warren if we can. If he and Bledsoe can put up some decent numbers they might be good trade filler in a Kaman-based deal for a starting SF/PG.
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Whoever we sign or trade for, it will be after the new CBA. And according to that we should keep room for a shot to sigh Deron or Paul.
Thus, I dont think Chandler is a good idea as I expect him to get 5 year $45-50mil deal.
Signing Prince to one year would be ideal if he goes for that.
I would keep Rhino but if we could Hayes or Landry would be nice.
Thus, I dont think Chandler is a good idea as I expect him to get 5 year $45-50mil deal.
Signing Prince to one year would be ideal if he goes for that.
I would keep Rhino but if we could Hayes or Landry would be nice.
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Target Deron Williams and Danny Granger. Over pay for them if needed. Talk to Atlanta about a three way. Kaman,Aminu,Gomes and 2011 2nd rd pick could be sent to ATL. Josh Smith, Mo Williams and the Twolves pick could be sent to New Jersey. Deron Williams,Marvin Williams and Morrow and the Lakers 2011 1st round pick would be sent to the Clippers.
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