Update pg 10: Clippers/Hornets agree to trade (includes EJ)

[Kyle]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... Paul_Talks

Finally. Get it done!

[adiedanny]

Just don't want to give up Gordon to get it done.

[SportsFan215]

Kaman/Aminu/Bledsoe/Min First for Paul

[mkwest]

Just don't want to give up Gordon to get it done.

Same.

[RiversideClips]

Got to keep Gordon, need to sign DJ and we might have to trade Kaman to pay for some of it.
Would you Amnesty Mo or would you keep him? the Clips could keep Foye & Gomes for the price of Mo

[R-DAWG]

sign and trade deandre as part of the package:

LAC:
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor

NO:
DeAndre Jordan (could be sent to a 3rd team for additional picks/young assets)
2012 1st rd pick (MIN via LAC)
2013 1st rd pick (top 5 protected)
Eric Bledsoe
Chris Kaman

wiih a starting lineup of Paul, Gordon, Butler, Griffin, and Okafor, the Clippers may have the most talented starting lineup in the league.

[Det the Threat]

First of all, didn't Paul(or his agent or whatever) already say that he isn't interested in staying with the Clippers longterm, if traded to us?

Also, after they couldn't get it done with the Lakers/Rockets, I wouldn't include Gordon at all, especially with the uncertainty of him being interested in staying with us or not.

Therfore the pieces I'd offer are Kaman, Mo Williams, Bledsoe, Aminu and that Minny pick. With those we'd be able to get them out of long term contracts like Okafor's or Ariza's(though, wouldn't want him with Butler already on the team) and send them some talent as well as trade chips(Kaman).

BTW: I doubt we could include Jordan at all, with him being offered a contract by the Warriors and us being forced to match it. Sign-and-trades, to me, work differently and that wouldn't be allowed under the CBA, as Jordan would also have to be giving his OK to such a deal.

[GSForever]

Would u guys like Klay and Udoh to send to the Hornets? .In a sign and trade for DJ. you guys keep Gordon without asking for for Curry. You have your core of Gordon, Blake and Paul

[RiversideClips]

I don't want anyone related to Mychael Thompson!!!!! Klay has his father's genes, so we know that he will turn into a soft, under achieving (add Pot Smoking), mal-content Cry baby like his Dad..

[RiversideClips]

Plus, we are going to MATCH DJ & have a core of Gordon, Blake,Caron, Paul & DJ

[Det the Threat]

From that article about us matching DJ's offer sheet.

But sources also say New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul's interest in potentially being traded to the Clippers stems, in part, from the prospect of playing with Jordan, who is a younger, stronger version of Tyson Chandler, with whom Paul played for three seasons in New Orleans before Chandler was dealt in 2009 to the Charlotte Bobcats.

Letting Jordan go would impair the franchise's chances of keeping Griffin, who is still on his rookie contract, and landing Paul, who is once more on the market after the Lakers, Houston Rockets and Hornets failed to complete a proposed deal that would've sent Paul to the Lakers.

"That's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't really proved anything yet, but it's cheaper than what losing Blake Griffin would do to their fan base," one league executive said.

A source said when Paul made his decision last week he wanted to be dealt to the Lakers, the Clippers had finished a very strong second among his suitors, which also included the Boston Celtics and the Warriors.

Source: Clippers face upheaval at center

[Dezmondballins3]

First of all, didn't Paul(or his agent or whatever) already say that he isn't interested in staying with the Clippers longterm, if traded to us?

Also, after they couldn't get it done with the Lakers/Rockets, I wouldn't include Gordon at all, especially with the uncertainty of him being interested in staying with us or not.

Therfore the pieces I'd offer are Kaman, Mo Williams, Bledsoe, Aminu and that Minny pick. With those we'd be able to get them out of long term contracts like Okafor's or Ariza's(though, wouldn't want him with Butler already on the team) and send them some talent as well as trade chips(Kaman).

BTW: I doubt we could include Jordan at all, with him being offered a contract by the Warriors and us being forced to match it. Sign-and-trades, to me, work differently and that wouldn't be allowed under the CBA, as Jordan would also have to be giving his OK to such a deal.

Where else would he go what team could be better then CP3/Gordon/Griffin that has cap room to sign him. so what the heck are you talking about. of course he would sign an extension with the Clippers!

[supfoo]

Kaman/Aminu/Bledsoe/Min First for Paul

for sure that is the raw baseline deal. i think clippers will probably have to throw in some more future picks (something like a 2014 first rounder + second round pick) and/or possibly take on players like okafor/ariza while giving up mo/foye (although i strongly suspect that sterling will not be willing to take okafor's contract, definitely not both okafor and ariza, which could potentially kill the deal). it will be mix and match depending on how negotiations go, what the other teams' offers look like, and how far sterling is willing to dig down into his wallet to put together one of the most promising starting 5's in the league.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

Where else would he go what team could be better then CP3/Gordon/Griffin that has cap room to sign him. so what the heck are you talking about. of course he would sign an extension with the Clippers!

I personally think Paul should sign an extension with us if we trade for him. But what I heard before was that he wasn't interested in signing an extension with us. That is why he was traded to the Lakers. Since that Laker trade has fallen apart he may be more likely to sign an extension with us now. People do change their minds.

[Jodi]

I don't want anyone related to Mychael Thompson!!!!! Klay has his father's genes, so we know that he will turn into a soft, under achieving (add Pot Smoking), mal-content Cry baby like his Dad..

Whats wrong with smoking pot?

[SportsFan215]

We NEED to get Paul. I am worried about DJ not living up to his new contract, and we won't have to worry about that with CP3. He makes everyone around him that much better (especially big men). CP3 with Blake and DJ would literally be unstoppable.

My only worry is that our salary with CP3, EJ, Caron, Blake, and DJ would already be approaching the luxury tax in 2012-13 when Paul and EJ's extensions would kick in, and then Blake's extension a year later.

[RiversideClips]

Jodi, I like Cuttino Mobley & he is in the "Medical Pot" Business, so nothing is wrong with it per say.I stated a fact that Thompson was busted for Pot last year, never stated an opinion.
I just really don't like his Dad, even though it would be ironic that the Laker's Radio Announcer's son is a Clipper.

[Ranma]

It's funny to think that Commissioner David Stern may actually be in our corner after all the years of conflict between him and owner Donald Sterling, starting with Sterling's successful lawsuit to move the team to L.A. from San Diego. Blake Griffin is the NBA's new golden boy as a media darling, so the conspiracy theorist in me suspects that Stern wouldn't mind providing BG some oncourt help for success through the delivery of CP3.

Chris Paul is not going to sign an extension with us until at the very least after waiting six months given the financial incentives to do so with the new CBA. Of course, he has the option to opt out and become an unrestricted free agent after the 2011-12 season and that is obviously a strong possibility given any bitterness over any perceived machinations on Stern's part to direct him to his new team.

The Clippers reportedly didn't include Gordon or the Minny pick in their previous offer and I wouldn't want them to now. Personally, I like the following suggestion adiedanny made in another thread:

Hmmm maybe a three team trade with smith going to NOL and Kaman going to ATL

I'd love to see something like this explored. I still think the strongest possibility is to eventually see both D12 & CP3 in L.A....but in different jerseys.

[Ranma]

For all the criticism David Stern has received for rejecting both incarnations of the CP3 trade, it's interesting to note that the Lakers were able to secure a trade agreement using assets that are not exactly coveted by the rest of the league. First, Lamar Odom is being shopped for a top-20-protected draft pick and cap space and, next, the Lakers reportedly and recently tried to do a hard sell of Pau Gasol on the Warriors, a team in need of quality big men.

Marcus Thompson, Contra Costa Times (12/10/11)

The Lakers, in their attempts to get young talent to send to New Orleans so the NBA will approve their acquisition of Chris Paul, came knocking at the Warriors door. Dangling Gasol. In return, they wanted “the entire team” one source said. The package the Lakers wanted was centered around point guard Stephen Curry (not sure who else, but I’m guessing Ekpe Udoh, Klay Thompson and maybe even Dorell Wright based on how laughable the source viewed the Lakers’ offer). Curry, presumably, would wind up with the Hornets.

The Warriors aren’t interested. At all.

Lakers Offer Pau Gasol to Warriors; Source Calls Offer “Ridiculous”

[Ranma]