What exactly does Charles Barkley want from our offense?

[Quake Griffin]

srs.
we lead the league in forcing turnovers...that's a good thing...not something to penalize us over...we're going to run when we get the chance.

doesn't make us a "running" or fast paced team.

but what does he wants from an offense with cp3?...less pick n roll?
is it the offense when jamaal comes in?
and hell....what exactly do you guys want from our half court offense?

[Angel strike1]

he is just a h8er and 0 ring loser.

[RiversideClips]

Chuckie forgets that are bench is so deep that while other teams "shorten their bench & slow it down," the Clips can kick it up a notch. Our bench is getting valuable minutes in key games & I think this experience will help in the playoffs. If you are playing 40 minutes in a physical, pounding game compared to 30 in the same style, who do you think will play better?
Chuck likes Pau Gasol's turn your BUTT to the hoop & hop your big ole booty into the player until you go to the foul line (we saw Pau do this against Carmelo on Christmas Day.) That is not basketball & Chuck/Pau should be called for an offensive foul.

[tsherkin]

C'mon, don't get mad. LAUGH about stuff like this. The Clippers are barely above average in pace at a 14th-ranked 91.8 possessions per game. Chuck obviously sees them running a lot off of steals and defensive boards and assumes that means that they're a running team, but that's OK, because you don't go to TNT (or ESPN or any other major media outlet) for intelligent analysis, you go for entertainment value. It's why Shaq and Barkley are there in the first place. He's not remembering that the Clips have a roughly +11 differential between their team ORTG and DRTG and that they are 4th and 3rd on offense and defense.

They're a nasty squad, an uber possession-control team. Barkley's just ignorant. The Clips look more like the early-80s Lakers than like, say, the mid-2000s Suns.

[QRich3]

Yeah, basically what tsherkin said. Chuck and Kenny are ok for the laughs and for a little insight on how players see the game, how they see each other, etc. but don't expect to get any actual insightful analysis from them.

I remember they used to do this with Kidd / B.Scott Nets as well, every analyst talked a bout them as if they were a run & gun team because of the fast break alley oops, when they actually were a great defensive team with a very slow pace, just like we are now.

I say this cause before we got Paul, Scott is the coach I wanted for the Clips, and it'scool that even if we didn't get him we are playing a similar style than we would if he was here. I guess his ways rubbed off on CP3

[tsherkin]

I say this cause before we got Paul, Scott is the coach I wanted for the Clips, and it'scool that even if we didn't get him we are playing a similar style than we would if he was here. I guess his ways rubbed off on CP3

Paul has always been a deliberate PG, everything about his strengths pertains to his ability to isolate or run the PnR as a primary entry into offense. Other than that, he generates turnovers for the other team and doesn't give up the ball. He's sort of the Marty Brodeur of the NBA. He'd have fit BRILLIANTLY next to Tim Duncan and under Popovich's wing, and I consider it a minor tragedy that we never got to see that happen except at All-Star games here and there.

[TheNewEra]

Was very confused about this as well we play our best d when we can slow another team down and then speed it up. On offense lick and rolls then open shooters.

[thanumba2clippersfan]

We shouldn't be trying to please Barkley or any other annalist on TV. This team should just focus on what it's doing and continue to win.

[tsherkin]

Was very confused about this as well we play our best d when we can slow another team down and then speed it up. On offense lick and rolls then open shooters.

Is the lick-and-roll a friendlier version of Utah's favorite play?

[TheNewEra]

Was very confused about this as well we play our best d when we can slow another team down and then speed it up. On offense lick and rolls then open shooters.

Is the lick-and-roll a friendlier version of Utah's favorite play?

The Wilt Chamberlin play

[azncorruptedo17]

utah's pick n roll didn't get any rings. =X

barkley's 'analysis' of our team isn't accurate, although it is somewhat true. When the game does slow down for those brief moments, our halfcourt set isn't that great, most of the time we come out with a jcross/cp3 bailout or we get really late in the shot clock needing to force up a shot. IF and only IF anyone can actually get us to slow down the whole game like that will we have issues. But with our Defense and 2nd team as good as they are we won't have any issues. We're like a better chitown from a year or 2 ago, they shut teams down on defense, but we have a way higher offensive motor and can easily score in bunches with regardless who's out there.

Either way, that tnt team cracks me up... shaq and chuck... lol.

[mkwest]

For most basketball observers, it's hard to have an accurate read of all 30 teams in the league. I think a lot of people look at the highlights and have it all figured out. We're not just running for the sake of it, it's a result of the defense. Imo that is how it should be done. When we had Dunleavy and Davis, everyone wanted us to run. It's not all that effective if you don't play defense.

Some of it is probably looking at the name on the front of the jersey and holding a prejudging the outlook, but a lot of it has to do with style. Barkley is from a different era, so he appreciates particular types of basketball (e.g. Memphis Grizzlies). They're a slower-paced, physical, grind it out type of of team that likely reminds Barkley of certain teams during his playing days. They are tough and will beat you up. However, we did beat them on the road in the playoffs with a less talented team and have outplayed them during the regular season for the last 2 years. They deserve their props, but it's kind of annoying that so many people want to disregard those little tidbits when they are talking about the two teams.

As far as him putting us behind OKC and San Antonio, I don't have much of a problem with that. OKC is the defending western conference champions and should be considered the favorites to go back to the finals unless proven otherwise. The Spurs did sweep us last season, are coached by one of the greatest ever and are led by some future Hall-of-Famers that know what it takes to perform in the postseason.

Chuck can kind of be stubborn with his predictions. If you look back to the GSW/DAL series during the "We Believe" run, he stuck with Dallas even when everything else pointed against it. The only way to really make him eat his words is to continue play at high level and hopefully prove him wrong when it really counts.

[azncorruptedo17]

i think the best part of our team is our unselfish play and great ball movement on a successful half court set, we get so many open shots. But if we play against teams with a chitown-like defense they recover so fast that we struggle. The only thing I hope we don't do is live and die by the 3 but the way our bigmen are actually making their free throws, our balance is great.

I have so much faith in our defense and in CP3 that it doesn't even matter

[madmaxmedia]

I think our personnel is part of the 'problem', in that our 2 post players are still learning and getter better in the post.

It's not that we have to try to run and gun every possession, but in transition we have the advantage over most teams due to our athleticism, especially at the bigger positions. But that is also a different thing than trying to run up a lot of possessions, '7 seconds or less', or that sort of thing.